# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1843 "2016-10-12T23:30:15Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Trumpists actually believe that their guy is winning and that the polls are rigged against their candidate. When the results come in, they’re going to charge that the election results are rigged. These people, like Trump himself, live in an alternate reality.

Trump himself is now saying that polls done by a large number of independent professional private polling companies are ALL rigged. Every single one of them.  
Even math is against him.

He is also telling supporters to go to polling stations “in those areas, I think you know what I mean”, to ensure there are “no problems”.

He has referred to “2nd amendment people” solving problems for him.

Trump is setting the scene for violent confrontations. As long as it gets him attention and power over others, he’s all for it.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1844 "2016-10-12T23:33:51Z")

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I was tempted for about 6 seconds to actually sign up to be one of the poll observers for the Trump campaign. Not because I think there’s a problem, or want to help him, but just because i want to know what instructions he is sending out to people.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1845 "2016-10-12T23:37:38Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Trump himself is now saying that polls done by a large number of independent professional private polling companies are ALL rigged. Every single one of them.  
> Even math is against him.
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> He is also telling supporters to go to polling stations “in those areas, I think you know what I mean”, to ensure there are “no problems”.
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> He has referred to “2nd amendment people” solving problems for him.
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> Trump is setting the scene for violent confrontations. As long as it gets him attention and power over others, he’s all for it.

I expect a nothing less than a horror show over the next 4-6 weeks at least – yes I think this will go beyond November 8. How long? I don’t think anyone knows, but what we have witnessed is already unprecedented in our modern history and I think we will be seeing new precedents, and not good ones.

The silver lining is that I do honestly believe there will be enough people who will be forced with no choice but to confront the fact that they have voted for a monster, or that they will have enabled one by virtue of not voting or voting third party. And when these goons really do cross a line, there will be consequences for the republican party.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1846 "2016-10-12T23:41:41Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> I’m starting to think there is going to be significant violence after Trump loses.

They may find they’re not nearly as fond of law and order and cops bustin’ heads when they’re on the receiving end instead of those Other people being the ones getting whacked and rounded up.

Yeah, a few stupid shits are gonna bring guns to protest marches. A few people; police, protesters, and bystanders, are gonna be shot.

Compared to the 1960s this’ll be kid stuff. To be sure a lot of Americans don’t remember that era. They’ll get reminded real quick.

Heck, this might be just what we need to disabuse the ammosexuals of the idea they represent some sort of bulwark of freedom rather than the nascent anarchy club they are. They’ll get rolled up by the authorities like nothin’.

It will be “must see TV”. That’s not a good thing, but sometimes bravado needs to be told to put up or shut up.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1847 "2016-10-12T23:42:42Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Trump himself is now saying that polls done by a large number of independent professional private polling companies are ALL rigged. Every single one of them.  
> Even math is against him.
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> He is also telling supporters to go to polling stations “in those areas, I think you know what I mean”, to ensure there are “no problems”.
> 
> He has referred to “2nd amendment people” solving problems for him.
> 
> Trump is setting the scene for violent confrontations. As long as it gets him attention and power over others, he’s all for it.

My concern is that there will be gun toting morons showing up in heavily Democratic districts and that there will be one or several instances of violence that will frighten people away from the polls, decreasing turnout in those districts.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1848 "2016-10-12T23:44:35Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> _claps hands_ Wipers!

One of my favorite scenes from that movie! Only a couple better, like when John Amos tells off the king, for insulting his daughter.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1849 "2016-10-12T23:49:03Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Even math is against him.

Not if you subtract women from the equation, though - he’s got a great momentum if you only count men’s votes.

And you should\* see \*the numbers when you’re only looking at males that didn’t finish high school! They’re amazing! They’re the \*best \*numbers.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1850 "2016-10-12T23:49:04Z")

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[quote=“soonerblue, post:1837, topic:767277”]

Watch CNN’s Christiane Amanpour ask Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov about “Donald Trump’s pussy riot moment.”

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I laughed! That was great.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1851 "2016-10-12T23:50:23Z")

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Well here comes his Bill Cosby moment, the first two of probably many, many more to come.

> **[Two Women Say Donald Trump Touched Them Inappropriately (Published 2016)](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/us/politics/donald-trump-women.html?_r=0)**
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> The women say they felt compelled to speak after Mr. Trump on Sunday denied ever engaging in such conduct. One says she encountered him on a plane, the other in Trump Tower.

Have fun in hell mother fucker!

ETA: got beaten to the punch! Good! Doubt it’s the last though. These articles are trending. I bet more come forward.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1852 "2016-10-12T23:53:29Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Trump supporters more and more remind me of gamergate bros.

I think there is a lot of overlap. Today i realized that someone on my FB feed is a follower of Milo Yiannoupoulos or whatever his name is. Guess how she is voting next month?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1853 "2016-10-12T23:58:22Z")

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Another one, Asahi. Miss Washington, 2013:

[http://www.king5.com/mb/news/local/miss-washington-2013-says-donald-trump-groped-her/334981243](http://www.king5.com/mb/news/local/miss-washington-2013-says-donald-trump-groped-her/334981243)

This came out an hour ago as well.

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**Author:** ![lazybratsche](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ba8739/32.png) [@lazybratsche](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lazybratsche)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1854 "2016-10-13T00:01:24Z")

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And I was almost afraid that the Trump Scandal Advent Calendar didn’t have anything for today.

Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1855 "2016-10-13T00:02:36Z")

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Two today, to make up for… nothing, really.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1856 "2016-10-13T00:03:18Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Well here comes his Bill Cosby moment, the first two of probably many, many more to come.
> 
> [http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/us/politics/donald-trump-women.html?\_r=0](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/us/politics/donald-trump-women.html?_r=0)
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> Have fun in hell mother fucker!
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> ETA: got beaten to the punch! Good! Doubt it’s the last though. These articles are trending. I bet more come forward.

Kayleigh McEnany, who has been blowing Trump’s horn and saying we must believe the women who accuse Bill Clinton, says that Trump says he didn’t do it, therefore, she believes him.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1857 "2016-10-13T00:03:54Z")

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This is why Cooper kept pounding Trump on this very point during debate2. Got Trump to issue an official denial, caught in another lie.

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1858 "2016-10-13T00:12:21Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> This is why Cooper kept pounding Trump on this very point during debate2. Got Trump to issue an official denial, caught in another lie.

Yes, Anderson was very sharp. We will have Cheetoface’s denial plus a ton of quotes like this one from Cassandra Searles, Miss Washington 2013:

"He probably doesn’t want me telling the story about that time he continually grabbed my ass and invited me to his hotel room.”

> **[Donald Trump Reportedly Treated Miss USA Contestants Like 'Property'](https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-reportedly-treated-miss-000000927.html)**
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> The women closest to Donald Trump may insist he treats females equally, but most evidence differs, including a Facebook post from a former Miss USA contestant.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1859 "2016-10-13T00:13:45Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Well here comes his Bill Cosby moment, the first two of probably many, many more to come.
> 
> [http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/us/politics/donald-trump-women.html?\_r=0](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/us/politics/donald-trump-women.html?_r=0)
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> Have fun in hell mother fucker!
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> ETA: got beaten to the punch! Good! Doubt it’s the last though. These articles are trending. I bet more come forward.

Yup. The Trumptanic’s iceberg is starting to hit back.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1860 "2016-10-13T00:16:29Z")

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And thus the dam bursts. Gonna be fun.

Not for those women who choose to stand up, but fun for the rest of us watching Trump squirm and all the commentators such as McEnany contorting themselves into utter non-credibility on anything.

If Faux stands for anything other than criminality, now’s the time for them to embrace mainstream R-ism and turn their propaganda firehose directly on ending Trump’s run.

Not out of some sense of civic duty they certainly lack. But out of fear for the competition with Trump they’ll have for the same eyeballs once the election is over and Trump fakeNews / Adulation Network gets going.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1861 "2016-10-13T00:20:26Z")

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This isn’t the kind of scandal that can be buried with another scandal. This is the kind of thing that has a trail. Now that the media have struck gold, they’re going to keep digging for more, and more, and more.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1862 "2016-10-13T00:21:54Z")

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Lock him up. Lock him up.

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