# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 94
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1863 "2016-10-13T00:28:12Z")
No, no, no. Try him. Then lock him up. We’re not savages. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1864 "2016-10-13T00:28:59Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > This isn’t the kind of scandal that can be buried with another scandal. This is the kind of thing that has a trail. Now that the media have struck gold, they’re going to keep digging for more, and more, and more. If there’s as many accusers as Cosby had, and I expect there might be even more, they can dribble a few out every day until the election. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1865 "2016-10-13T00:29:09Z")
Some snarky comments in the NYT comments section: “I heard his reply tonight to these women and he replied that they touched him.” “The women should not be concerned. It was only locker room kissing.” ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1866 "2016-10-13T00:31:33Z")
What’s the statute of limitations on sexual assault in New York? ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1867 "2016-10-13T00:35:33Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > What’s the statute of limitations on sexual assault in New York? According to this, there is no statute of limitations in New York: [https://victimsofcrime.org/docs/DNA%20Resource%20Center/sol-for-sexual-assault-check-chart---final---copy.pdf](https://victimsofcrime.org/docs/DNA%20Resource%20Center/sol-for-sexual-assault-check-chart---final---copy.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1868 "2016-10-13T00:35:37Z")
\*Americans should vote for Donald Trump as president next month or risk being dragged into a nuclear war, according to a Russian ultra-nationalist ally of President Vladimir Putin who likes to compare himself to the U.S. Republican candidate. Vladimir Zhirinovsky… \*… _Zhirinovsky, who said he met Trump in New York in 2002, revels in his similarities with the American businessman — they are the same age, favor coarse, sometimes misogynistic language and boast about putting their own country first. Zhirinovsky has even said he wants a DNA test to see if he is related to Trump._… From [Putin Ally Tells Americans: Vote Trump or Face Nuclear War](http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/putin-ally-tells-americans-vote-trump-or-face-nuclear-war-n665376) Wow, what an awesome enforcement from a possible relative of Trump’s. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1869 "2016-10-13T00:36:25Z")
And then there is the “walking in on 14 to 19 year old girls while they were changing” [Donald Trump's Creepy Stewardship Of The Miss Teen USA Pageant | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-miss-teen-usa_us_57fe2cd3e4b0d505a46b1725) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1870 "2016-10-13T00:37:35Z")
[Oh Brother …](http://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2016/10/12/b9ed65c2-196a-407d-99dc-fad1ec6366ed/resize/620x/f36976a410471f6c0a91ec18ca2b7448/whiteladyblacksfortrump.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1871 "2016-10-13T00:41:58Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > \*Americans should vote for Donald Trump as president next month or risk being dragged into a nuclear war, according to a Russian ultra-nationalist ally of President Vladimir Putin who likes to compare himself to the U.S. Republican candidate. > > Vladimir Zhirinovsky… > … So the brave patriotic Trumpees are supposed to vote as told by a country threatening to nuke us. Trumpish surrender monkeys more like. It is to laugh. Lenin called them “useful fools”. [Useful idiot - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot) Sounds like it’s time to break those words out of mothballs. Delicious, delicious irony. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1872 "2016-10-13T01:04:27Z")
The Trump/Bannon counter-plan is to bring his Clinton Accusers Club from the debates onto Hannity tomorrow for an hour long special. They hope to depress turn out among young women by just spraying assault accusations everywhere. Granted, step one of this plan is apparently to reach millennial women voters via Sean Hannity’s program. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1873 "2016-10-13T01:10:48Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > The Trump/Bannon counter-plan is to bring his Clinton Accusers Club from the debates onto Hannity tomorrow for an hour long special. They hope to depress turn out among young women by just spraying assault accusations everywhere. > > Granted, step one of this plan is apparently to reach millennial women voters via Sean Hannity’s program. I’m pretty sure Bill Clinton has already lost their vote. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1874 "2016-10-13T01:11:17Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Well here comes his Bill Cosby moment, the first two of probably many, many more to come. > > [http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/us/politics/donald-trump-women.html?\_r=0](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/us/politics/donald-trump-women.html?_r=0) > > Have fun in hell mother fucker! > > ETA: got beaten to the punch! Good! Doubt it’s the last though. These articles are trending. I bet more come forward. This is going to be real fun for the various political hacks who had tried to back away from Trump and then flip-flopped back to loyal support after hearing the angry roar of the Derplorables. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1875 "2016-10-13T01:12:12Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > It’s usually attributed to Mao, but the exact source appears to be unknown. I first saw it in Doonesbury, where Honey says it to Ambassador Duke, attributing it to Mao. I always assumed Trudeau made it up? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1876 "2016-10-13T01:12:31Z")
So that makes, what, 4 today? Add Machado, the women Friday… we are up to 7. And we are just starting. Bill Clinton never had a “bimbo eruption” quite like this, that is for sure! ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1877 "2016-10-13T01:17:24Z")
Hell, there is another one, this time in London, courtesy of The Guardian: > **[Miss USA 2001 contestant: Trump barged into room when we were naked](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/12/donald-trump-miss-usa-dressing-room-2001-rehearsal?CMP=share_btn_tw)** > > Woman tells the Guardian ‘He walked in, he stood and he stared’ as she and another young contestant were getting dressed for rehearsal for 2001 pageant ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1878 "2016-10-13T01:19:47Z")
Some are saying 5 releases in an hour or two. Coordinated? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1879 "2016-10-13T01:31:57Z")
Palm Beach, FL [http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news/news/national-govt-politics/palm-beach-post-exclusive-local-woman-says-trump-g/nsqBy/](http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news/news/national-govt-politics/palm-beach-post-exclusive-local-woman-says-trump-g/nsqBy/) I don’t think the timing is really that odd. I think it’s a strength in numbers thing – very reminiscent of other mass sexual assault cases like Jerry Sandusky and Bill Cosby. Victims deal with it by suppressing it for years, convinced nobody’s got their back. When they finally sense that someone’s onto their predatory behavior, it takes one or two to get the courage to come out – then the flood gates open. Trump is different than Bill Cosby and Jerry Sandusky in that he has basically admitted to doing such things before ever being really suspected of it. That tells me that Trump probably engaged in this sort of behavior because he thought he was bulletproof. He threatens people into silence, which is probably why these women remained silent all these years. I think now these women finally realize Trump really can’t go after them if they act in concert – there are just too many of them to go after. I think this is gonna be a yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge number of victims coming out. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1880 "2016-10-13T01:32:45Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Some are saying 5 releases in an hour or two. Coordinated? Could just be a cascade effect. Tape comes out and women start going to the news saying “That happened to me”. NYT got their story out first and now other media organizations who were working on a story are rushing to get theirs out the door. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1881 "2016-10-13T01:34:45Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > I first saw it in Doonesbury, where Honey says it to Ambassador Duke, attributing it to Mao. > > I always assumed Trudeau made it up? Perhaps in that exact form, but apparently Mao at least used the phrase “disorder under heaven,” mentioned by [The Economist.](http://www.economist.com/news/books-and-arts/21698632-how-maos-call-disorder-under-heaven-tore-china-asunder-heat-sun) According to Google’s [ngram viewer](https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=great+disorder+under+heaven+&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cgreat%20disorder%20under%20heaven%3B%2Cc0), the phrase “great disorder under heaven” first appeared in 1969, and peaked in 1978. Mao’s Cultural Revolution started in 1966, and Doonesbury first appeared in 1970 (and Honey first in 1976), so certainly it didn’t originate with Trudeau. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1882 "2016-10-13T01:35:29Z")
An even worse problem for Trump. That civil suit in which he is alleged to have raped a 13 year old? That’s going to be a story now. Trump is a sexual predator. And the enemies at Washington Post and NYTimes are going to make sure that gets out. That’s almost damn sure to be the case now that Trump has threatened them with legal action. He’s like one of those bar room bullies that gets off his stool after a few beers and goes around challenging random people to a fight. He gets punched in the nose and keeps coming back and daring more people to fight him. Keep it coming, moron. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=93) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=95)