# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 98
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1944 "2016-10-13T08:07:43Z")
This came out a few days before Pussygate broke out and seems to have swept under most people’s radars, but here, [once again courtesy of Howard Stern](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-paris-hilton_us_57ee9373e4b024a52d2ea629), is Trump talking about how hot he thought Paris Hilton was _when she was twelve years old._ > [@](#): > > “Now, somebody who a lot of people don’t give credit to but is actuality is really beautiful is Paris Hilton,” he said. “I’ve known Paris Hilton from the time she’s 12, her parents are friends of mine, and the first time I saw her she walked into the room and I said, ‘Who the hell is that?’” > > “Did you wanna bang her?” Stern asked. > > “Well, at 12, I wasn’t interested,” Trump said, “I’ve never been into that … but she was beautiful.” I think between this, his ogling the girls in the Miss Teen USA locker room, asking others how “hot” 16-year-old Ivanka was, and the alleged rape case, we can pretty safely conclude that he _is_ “into that”. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1945 "2016-10-13T08:31:28Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > This came out a few days before Pussygate broke out and seems to have swept under most people’s radars “Well, at 12, I wasn’t interested, which is why I said, ‘Who the hell is that?’" ---
**Author:** ![Junior\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1946 "2016-10-13T08:33:26Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > It seems like just yesterday that you were called out for this and requested that you provide actual info in your post, for which you apologized. > > Did you forget already? I’m not sure why the photo was posted, but that sign is way more interesting than the slightly strange idea of a white woman holding up a ‘Blacks For Trump’ sign. The website that it’s advertising is a little on the [_unusual_ side](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/donald-trump-hoists-fringe-religious-groups-sign-at-rally/): > [@](#): > > As it turns out, [GodS2.com](http://GodS2.com) is the website of a religious movement that focuses on issues such as “Rockerfeller is Nimrod King of The Canaanites & SAUD The King Of The Ishmaelites Masonic Illuminati Trilateralist Big Banks KKK.” > > The group’s homepage shows a picture that it claims shows Hillary Clinton in blackface (it doesn’t) and the late Sen. Robert Byrd in Ku Klux Klan robes (also false), along with praise for a man named “Prince Michael Symonette.” > > “He has several websites, […] all of which promote his book, ‘written primarily to show the BLACK MAN, and the WORLD the true source of their problem, 33% of the BLACK WOMEN of AMERICA (BABYLON),’” write Jocelyn Fong and Solange Uwimana of Media Matters. “The cover of the book declares that Oprah Winfrey is ‘the devil’ and ‘Obama is the beast 666, given power by the dragon (serpent), Oprah.’” Not surprising in the least they’d find themselves supporting Trump … ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1947 "2016-10-13T09:00:16Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Tomorrow’s Daily News: > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/DumbDonald666/status/786406205220466689?s=09) I think it’s time for Trump to have a sit-down interview…with Chris Hansen. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1948 "2016-10-13T09:23:33Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > I figured out why the evangelicals still support Trump: They are trying to bring about the End Times by lifting the Antichrist to power. They need him, just like they need Israel to exist. Only I don’t recall the Bible mentioning the “good” guys making it happen because they got impatient with God’s mysterious, and slow, ways. Nah, it’s really about the Supreme Court, but for many reasons it’s just not good enough to justify supporting him. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1949 "2016-10-13T09:54:55Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Trump’s lawyer(s) sent a notice [demanding a retraction](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cunu4NJXgAAGFiz.jpg). Maybe I’m missing something, but: isn’t the newspaper using Trump’s favorite tactic? They’re not saying _he did this_; instead, in best _a lot of people are saying_ fashion, they ran a headline that said “two women say Donald Trump touched them inappropriately”, and followed it with a story chock full of “she said” statements – and they of course included a “said Mr. Trump” reply to match the “Ms. Leeds said” stuff. As far as I can tell, that linked bit doesn’t accuse the _paper_ of getting any facts wrong; sure, it says “these two individuals” are making false and defamatory statements, and that the Times hasn’t done a good enough job of testing “the veracity of these false and malicious allegations” – but is there a problem with saying allegations _are_ allegations? Because, hey, the article itself is careful to use the word “allegations”. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1950 "2016-10-13T09:58:03Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Maybe I’m missing something, but: isn’t the newspaper using Trump’s favorite tactic? They’re not saying _he did this_; instead, in best _a lot of people are saying_ fashion, they ran a headline that said “two women say Donald Trump touched them inappropriately”, and followed it with a story chock full of “she said” statements – and they of course included a “said Mr. Trump” reply to match the “Ms. Leeds said” stuff. > > As far as I can tell, that linked bit doesn’t accuse the _paper_ of getting any facts wrong; sure, it says “these two individuals” are making false and defamatory statements, and that the Times hasn’t done a good enough job of testing “the veracity of these false and malicious allegations” – but is there a problem with saying allegations _are_ allegations? Because, hey, the article itself is careful to use the word “allegations”. It’s all bluster and desperation from a cornered animal. If he were to actually sue, then he’d have to testify under oath about whether or not he’s kissed and groped women without their consent, and that’s the _last_ thing Loser Donald wants to do. He’s betting that he can bluff the Times into backing down. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1951 "2016-10-13T10:38:45Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Maybe I’m missing something, but: isn’t the newspaper using Trump’s favorite tactic? They’re not saying _he did this_; instead, in best _a lot of people are saying_ fashion If you have two specific people that are saying it, it’s not the same as the much-less-attributable “people are saying” approach, particularly as often the “people” who are saying the thing include the person who is saying the thing to you at the time. If you know what I’m saying. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1952 "2016-10-13T10:50:20Z")
I have heard multiple Chris Hansen jokes this morning. Anybody want to clue me in? Anyway, Alexandra Jaffe of NBC is reporting Trump camp pulling out of VA. > ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1953 "2016-10-13T10:56:28Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I have heard multiple Chris Hansen jokes this morning. Anybody want to clue me in? > > Anyway, Alexandra Jaffe of NBC is reporting Trump camp pulling out of VA. > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/ajjaffe/status/786457193314816000) Chris Hansen-[_To Catch a Predator_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Catch_a_Predator) > [@](#): > > _To Catch a Predator_ is an American reality television series that features hidden camera investigations by the television newsmagazine program _Dateline NBC_. It was devoted to impersonating underage people (generally ages 13–15) and detaining male adults who contacted them over the Internet for sexual liaisons. People were lured to meet with a decoy under the pretense of sexual contact and then confronted. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1954 "2016-10-13T10:57:39Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I have heard multiple Chris Hansen jokes this morning. Anybody want to clue me in? Chris Hansen was a Dateline host who became the face of their “To Catch a Predator” series, where they’d go online trolling for would-be predators who wanted to have sex with an underage girl. The NBC employer, pretending to be the girl of the man’s fantasy, would entice him to show up at a certain hotel room at a certain time, carrying some object that would prove he was who they were expecting - and Hansen would be there waiting for them with a camera crew, asking them to “have a seat over here” where he’d confront them with their own online statements. He’s saying that Hansen ought to be having a conversation with Trump, because Trump is quite possibly a pedophile. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1955 "2016-10-13T11:08:08Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Just when I think Trump couldn’t get any scummier, he proves me wrong. But where were all these women during the primaries? Coming forward only in the last month of a presidential campaign doesn’t exactly bolster their credibility. Seriously? This bullshit again? As if you aren’t perfectly aware of the many good reasons why victims of sexual assault choose to keep it to themselves, even when the perpetrator is not one of the country’s most famous billionaires? You should be feel embarrassed for saying this after all the discussions recently over people like Cosby and Ailes. And especially because some of these women didn’t wait to come forward. Some of them sued and settled cases with Trump years ago. Some were just not paid attention to until the straw-on-the camel’s-back moment. ---
**Author:** ![Tzigone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Tzigone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tzigone)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1956 "2016-10-13T11:17:16Z")
> [@](#): > > On social media, I’m seeing a lot of people sharing the video of Tiffany Trump diving away from a kiss from her father. Everyone seems to be gleefully sharing the video for laughs but it actually seems kind of disturbing to me. I thought I read the far-shot (showing more of the room) made that look much more innocuous. But I can’t find the video for it at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1957 "2016-10-13T11:33:24Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Hillary needs to get Bill off the campaign trail. ASAP > > The Bill is a rapist protesters are popping up at his speeches. It’s getting pretty awkward. Especially since his womanizing background is well known. > > There’s even a black guy claiming to be his illegitimate son. The result of an affair he had as Governor. > > There isn’t enough time to debunk these claims. Just get Bill out of the public eye. Now! He’s nothing but a liability to Hillary’s campaign. There’s a real danger of Clinton having to defend herself against volumes of false information. TrumpBart’s got nothing to lose at this point, so they’ll probably make up outrageous claim after outrageous claim and leave it to fact checkers to sort out who’s right and who’s not. I am cautiously optimistic that tried and true Clinton supporters aren’t buying into the nonsense but this could affect the soft underbelly of whatever independent support she might have. I suspect TrumpBart will save their most devastating falsification campaign for after the debates, or perhaps just a day before it. I will be so glad when this shit show is over – at least I think I will. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1958 "2016-10-13T11:50:48Z")
Looks like Trump and his supporters are now nuking their campaign with “Repeal the 19th” (amendment) hashtags and tweets after polls showed Trump could win, if only women didn’t have the right to vote. :smack: > **[An ex-CIA operative is giving Trump a run for his money in Utah](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/meet-evan-mcmullin-ex-cia-operative-taking-trump-votes-utah-n665151)** > > "I think the American people know that both of these options are awful," third-party conservative Evan McMullin says of Clinton and Trump. Predictably, there’s been an epic backlash. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1959 "2016-10-13T12:01:48Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Seriously? This bullshit again? > > As if you aren’t perfectly aware of the many good reasons why victims of sexual assault choose to keep it to themselves, even when the perpetrator is not one of the country’s most famous billionaires? > > You should be feel embarrassed for saying this after all the discussions recently over people like Cosby and Ailes. > > And especially because some of these women didn’t wait to come forward. Some of them sued and settled cases with Trump years ago. Some were just not paid attention to until the straw-on-the camel’s-back moment. Particularly when women are well aware currently of how easy it is to be harassed via internet. Coming out means that they will wake up to email threatening to rape and murder them. It means their children will be threatened. Their private life will be exposed - including their address. They will be less safe. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1960 "2016-10-13T12:07:12Z")
Meanwhile the silence from GOP officials who can’t decide whether to endorse or un-endorse or re-endorse a sexual predator…is deafening. This party is diseased. Unless the party completely collapses and reorganizes itself with a new message, I will never, ever vote republican again. I will make sure to vote all up and down the ballot and if I see an ‘R’ I vote against it - period. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1961 "2016-10-13T12:49:45Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Meanwhile the silence from GOP officials who can’t decide whether to endorse or un-endorse or re-endorse a sexual predator…is deafening. This party is diseased. Unless the party completely collapses and reorganizes itself with a new message, I will never, ever vote republican again. I will make sure to vote all up and down the ballot and if I see an ‘R’ I vote against it - period. I have always been a leftie but I would occasionally vote for a Republican. Last time that happened was 1990. By the Clinton impeachment era, I refused to vote for any Republicans. But that’s not a healthy situation. You can’t keep the Democratic Party accountable if they have no credible opposition. ---
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1962 "2016-10-13T12:50:52Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > … > > (Wonder if people like Cohen or Kurtz will retract or apologize for anything they said then, now that it’s abundantly clear—and more importantly, widely recognized—that their candidate is indeed a nasty coercive piece of rapey shit.) Cohen never will. He’s Trump’s macho douchebag lawyer; the same guy who spat “says _ **WHO** _?!” on CNN when confronted with Trump’s falling poll numbers. This is a man who, when confronted with reality, responds with juvenile high school bullying and then walks off saying how he won the argument. Not playing chess with a pigeon so much as an orangutan: he flips the board, mauls his opponent, and then lumbers off to brag at the masterful chess game he just played. It’s clear why Trump likes him so much; they’re two peas in a pod. Two “men” who never grew out of being insecure high school jocks. They’re both too immune to reality to ever change. I hope Cohen goes down with the Trumptanic in November. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1963 "2016-10-13T12:52:11Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Yes, predicting they were doing oppo research and going to release it after the convention is a stunning prediction worthy of Carnac the Magnificent. Thank you, thank you. I am very proud, even though I said the last two or three months rather than the last month, and I said 1 per week when it looks like we’ll get 2 or 3 dumps per week. But even I can’t get everything right. > [@](#): > > Coupled with your predictions of her losing ??? When did I predict she would lose? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=97) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=99)