# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 99
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1964 "2016-10-13T12:58:29Z")
So Podesta’s email refers to “Needy Latinos” > **[WikiLeaks emails reveal Clinton campaign's strategy to woo "needy Latinos"](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-wikileaks-john-podesta-emails-reveal-campaign-strategy-to-woo-needy-latinos/)** > > WikiLeaks plans to release more of the 50,000 emails it claims it has from campaign chairman John Podesta's gmail account, between now and Election Day Is this a needle mover? I tend to think not but what worries me is that there might be something else more repulsive that comes later. Beyond that, I also wonder if Wikileaks and Breitbart aren’t using this to set up a fabricated story of someone in the campaign saying something a lot more offensive. In this election, falsities could have a way of becoming fact. I hope Clinton’s campaign has surrogates ready to dispel myths. If there’s actual factual accounts of racism that would be really, really bad. Hoping that’s not the case though. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1965 "2016-10-13T12:58:43Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > GOP officials who can’t decide whether to endorse or un-endorse or re-endorse a sexual predator…is deafening. This party is diseased. OTOH the endorsement flipfloppers are providing a fine illustration if anyone needs to look up “cowardice”. There’s no principle, no cause, nothing to stand FOR come what may; just utter terror of losing, of being shouted at by the crowd, of being primaried from the deplorable wing, of being excluded from a future campaign. At least you can say those who stuck with him all along were not afraid of what others would think of them. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1966 "2016-10-13T12:59:05Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Thank you, thank you. I am very proud, even though I said the last two or three months rather than the last month, and I said 1 per week when it looks like we’ll get 2 or 3 dumps per week. But even I can’t get everything right. > > ??? When did I predict she would lose? Sorry about that, I somehow misread who I thought I was responding to. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1967 "2016-10-13T13:05:22Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > So Podesta’s email refers to “Needy Latinos” > > [Campaign chairman John Podesta told Hillary Clinton to woo "needy Latinos," Wikileaks emails show - CBS News](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-wikileaks-john-podesta-emails-reveal-campaign-strategy-to-woo-needy-latinos/) > > Is this a needle mover? I tend to think not but what worries me is that there might be something else more repulsive that comes later. Beyond that, I also wonder if Wikileaks and Breitbart aren’t using this to set up a fabricated story of someone in the campaign saying something a lot more offensive. In this election, falsities could have a way of becoming fact. > > I hope Clinton’s campaign has surrogates ready to dispel myths. If there’s actual factual accounts of racism that would be really, really bad. Hoping that’s not the case though. Because they already are casting shade on the accuracy: [http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/wikileaks-russia-hillary-clinton-campaign-democrats-229707](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/wikileaks-russia-hillary-clinton-campaign-democrats-229707) But right now the last thing Clinton wants to do is distract from the Trumpster Fire. I suspect that anything in the Wikileaks is not important in comparison to the sex scandals, or they would have dumped it before early voting started. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1968 "2016-10-13T13:12:39Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > TrumpBart’s got nothing to lose at this point, so they’ll probably make up outrageous claim after outrageous claim and leave it to fact checkers to sort out who’s right and who’s not. I’m now genuinely curious: what the heck can they have Alec Baldwin do, on the next episode of SNL, that would count as comedic _exaggeration?_ ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1969 "2016-10-13T13:17:01Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > No, not rich guys. Rich “men of his generation, in his position of power.”, which is what I said. Yes, I think it would odd if they didn’t behave in a similarly reprehensible manner. Because they are privileged assholes who are used to getting what they want and used to treating women as sex objects. You disagree? > [@jsgoddess](#): > > Yes, I do. As do I. It’s not a matter of generation or power: it’s a matter of asshole-level. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1970 "2016-10-13T13:17:29Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > I’m now genuinely curious: what the heck can they have Alec Baldwin do, on the next episode of SNL, that would count as comedic _exaggeration?_ I think he’s going to have to actually expose his penis. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1971 "2016-10-13T13:22:08Z")
The victims of Trump’s rapey bull shit are starting to chime in. [Link](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/) In retaliation, Trump says he’s going to turn Bill Clinton into the next Bill Cosby. Yeah, good luck with that. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1972 "2016-10-13T13:28:23Z")
I think it fair to say the third debate could make the second debate look like a cute first date. Trump is losing, cornered, and angry. I’d put it at 40% likely he will openly accuse Clinton of murder. I don’t mean “Benghazi is your fault.” I mean **he is going to actually say she personally murdered someone**. Perhaps Vince Foster, perhaps Antonin Scalia, perhaps someone else. Debate #2 was just an appetizer train wreck. This one could be an asteroid strike. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1973 "2016-10-13T13:28:41Z")
Clinton may end up getting Cosbied someday, but it won’t be because Trump did anything. Trump can’t make women come forward. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1974 "2016-10-13T13:35:49Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Clinton may end up getting Cosbied someday, but it won’t be because Trump did anything. Trump can’t make women come forward. His checkbook can make women lie. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1975 "2016-10-13T13:36:11Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > I’d put it at 40% likely he will openly accuse Clinton of murder. I don’t mean “Benghazi is your fault.” I mean **he is going to actually say she personally murdered someone**. “She murdered _me._ She murdered me, it was thirteen years ago; murdered me and covered it up, believe me, believe me. She’s so dishonest – ‘Crooked Hillary,’ right? Everybody calls her ‘Crooked Hillary’ – and she covered that up, her and her husband, after she murdered me; people are saying this, a lot of people are saying this.” ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1976 "2016-10-13T13:36:51Z")
A group of students at Liberty University have released a statement rebuking Trump and criticizing Liberty President Jerry Falwell for supporting him ([Washington Post article](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/10/12/liberty-is-not-trump-u-students-protest-donald-trump/?utm_source=huffingtonpost.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pubexchange)). The letter, which has 250 signatures, starts: > [@Liberty University student group](#): > > In the months since Jerry Falwell Jr. endorsed him, Donald Trump has been inexorably associated with Liberty University. We are Liberty students who are disappointed with President Falwell’s endorsement and are tired of being associated with one of the worst presidential candidates in American history. Donald Trump does not represent our values and we want nothing to do with him. The article also reports on college Republican groups at other universities that have similarly abandoned Trump. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1977 "2016-10-13T13:38:01Z")
This shows what happens when a professional and veteran campaign operation goes up against a bunch of deluded amateurs. This is just the beginning of the Trump-past info dump. We will see a new revelation (or pile of revelations) on Trump every 2 or 3 days until election day. ---
**Author:** ![Crybaby\_Boobie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crybaby_boobie/32/545_2.png) [@Crybaby\_Boobie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crybaby_Boobie)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1978 "2016-10-13T13:38:30Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > “She murdered _me._ She murdered me, it was thirteen years ago; murdered me and covered it up, believe me, believe me. She’s so dishonest – ‘Crooked Hillary,’ right? Everybody calls her ‘Crooked Hillary’ – and she covered that up, her and her husband, after she murdered me; people are saying this, a lot of people are saying this.” This would explain why Trump went from being a friend and backer of the Clintons to the current, deranged enemy. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1979 "2016-10-13T13:43:56Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > So Podesta’s email refers to “Needy Latinos” > > [Campaign chairman John Podesta told Hillary Clinton to woo "needy Latinos," Wikileaks emails show - CBS News](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-wikileaks-john-podesta-emails-reveal-campaign-strategy-to-woo-needy-latinos/) > > Is this a needle mover? I tend to think not but what worries me is that there might be something else more repulsive that comes later. Beyond that, I also wonder if Wikileaks and Breitbart aren’t using this to set up a fabricated story of someone in the campaign saying something a lot more offensive. In this election, falsities could have a way of becoming fact. > > I hope Clinton’s campaign has surrogates ready to dispel myths. If there’s actual factual accounts of racism that would be really, really bad. Hoping that’s not the case though. Asahi, you know Latino’s call themselves “Latino”, right? They also identify as “Hispanic”, “Americans”, etc. Know what Hispanics call white people? Anglos. It’s OK. Relax. The worst thing in this story is that Podesta thinks Bill Richardson can be kind of a dick. Wow, that should move the needle! ---
**Author:** ![Tzigone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Tzigone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tzigone)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1980 "2016-10-13T13:46:05Z")
> [@](#): > > There’s even a black guy claiming to be his illegitimate son. The result of an affair he had as Governor. Wasn’t this one already debunked with DNA testing back in the 90s? Or am I misremembering? Or is this another one? > [@](#): > > I will be so glad when this shit show is over – at least I think I will. Same here. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1981 "2016-10-13T13:56:48Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Know what Hispanics call white people? Anglos. No, Anglo is language-based and refers to anybody of any color whose primary language is English; it is short for _angloparlante_ (English-speaker) like _hispano_ is short for _hispanoparlante_ or _hispanohablante_ (Spanish-speaker). Anglos, like Hispanics, come in all colors. What is true is that Anglos tend to think that “Anglo” means “non-Hispanic white”. Many a non-white Anglo has laughed out loud when he found the actual meaning. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1982 "2016-10-13T14:02:48Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > And extra-small condoms. Extra-small gloves, too. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1983 "2016-10-13T14:05:12Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Looks like Trump and his supporters are now nuking their campaign with “Repeal the 19th” (amendment) hashtags and tweets after polls showed Trump could win, if only women didn’t have the right to vote. :smack: That’s the Alt-Right MRA crowd trying to be clever by trolling and not caring if it hurts Trump because “lol we made a girl mad!!”. And, let’s face it, making a girl mad is far more important to a sex-spurred loser than politics could ever be. “Needy Latinos” is a yawner in context. Sort of like almost every hacked email so far. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=98) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=100)