# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4880 "2016-11-06T19:48:39Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> So, yeah, Nixon on steroids…
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> Heck, NO.

As I’ve said in the past, he’s Stupid Nixon:

> [@If Trump wins, should there be a quick trigger on impeachment?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-trump-wins-should-there-be-a-quick-trigger-on-impeachment/769318/27):
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> He’s his own worst enemy. He destroys his own successes, and he makes his defeats even worse.
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> Of course, with Nixon, it was a Greek Tragedy playing out, with a brilliant but flawed protagonist ultimately being destroyed by that most Greek of sins, hubris. With Trump, it’s more like watching Curly repeatedly whack himself on the head, get angry, and run headlong into another rake, over and over again. As per Marx, history repeats itself, first as tragedy, then as The Three Stooges.

I have no problem saying Nixon was a smart man. I have no problem saying Nixon did good things for the country. Nixon even, to a limited extent, had principles: Preserve The Establishment, even as it was being torn down by the New Left from without and the rising Conservative Movement from within.

Trump has none of those qualities. He’s a stupid man, he can do no good for anyone, especially not himself, and his only principle is Trump Is Great. However, whereas Nixon used his intelligence to be a more cunning animal, a more vicious and dangerous threat, Trump stumbles over himself and gets in his own way to the point his only support comes from die-hard My Party, Right Or Wrong types and the more blatantly fascistic Fringe Right front.

Nixon was a good house with a cracked and subsiding foundation finally collapsing on itself. Trump was a dumpster fire which got a lot more fuel poured onto it to become a dumpster fire for the ages. To use a tired Internet phrase, “and nothing of value was lost”.

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