# Clinton v. Trump: Who would make the better POTUS?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 10, 2016, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031 "2016-06-10T16:53:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031/21 "2016-06-10T19:55:58Z")

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Lessee… one spoiled brat with no class whatsoever and zero political experience v. former Senator & Secretary of State.

Oh, this will take a while.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031/22 "2016-06-10T20:02:17Z")

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Well a Trump presidency would kick late-night comedy up a notch over the past eight years. Obama’s given SNL, Tonight Show, Late Night, etc. very little to mock.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031/23 "2016-06-10T20:15:20Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> No, but it’s very likely that some Trump supporters, especially those with IQs over 90, know that he would make a worse President overall than HRC, but are voting for him because they don’t want their taxes raised or their businesses regulated.

Hope they enjoy the recession they’ll create.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031/24 "2016-06-10T20:36:34Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Ace](#):
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> Hope they enjoy the recession they’ll create.

Hey, a recession is just an excuse to lower your workers wages, pocket the profit, and maybe scoop up a business on the cheap so you can sell the assets and declare bankruptcy, thus screwing over the creditors… It will be terrific! The BEST recession EVER. It’ll be YUUUUUGE!

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**Author:** ![davida03801](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5e925/32.png) [@davida03801](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davida03801)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031/25 "2016-06-10T20:43:29Z")

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The least worst would be trump although a hard pill to swallow.

Note the phrase **least worst** , they are both terrible choices.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031/26 "2016-06-10T20:58:19Z")

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> [@davida03801](#):
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> The least worst would be trump although a hard pill to swallow.
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> Note the phrase **least worst** , they are both terrible choices.

Care to, yanno, justify this? Again, on one hand we have a guy with no political experience whatsoever who thinks making US debt no longer a solid investment is a good idea, and on the other hand we have a former secretary of state who maybe lied about an email server?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031/27 "2016-06-10T21:10:40Z")

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> [@davida03801](#):
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> The least worst would be trump although a hard pill to swallow.
> 
> Note the phrase **least worst** , they are both terrible choices.

OK, so please give ONE. POSITIVE. ATTRIBUTE. that Trump has, that would make him a BETTER. PRESIDENT. than Clinton.

Not “least worst”, not “at least he’s not a horrible liar/evil person like Shillary”

ONE. THING. that would make him a better president.

Better at internal economic policy knowledge?  
Better at economics?  
Better at Foreign relations?  
Better at forging ties and diplomacy?  
Better at negotiating trade deals with nations?  
Better at giving us concrete proposals?

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031/28 "2016-06-10T21:12:55Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> OK, so please give ONE. POSITIVE. ATTRIBUTE. that Trump has, that would make him a BETTER. PRESIDENT. than Clinton.
> 
> Not “least worst”, not “at least he’s not a horrible liar/evil person like Shillary”
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> ONE. THING. that would make him a better president.
> 
> Better at internal economic policy knowledge?  
> Better at economics?  
> Better at Foreign relations?  
> Better at forging ties and diplomacy?  
> Better at negotiating trade deals with nations?  
> Better at giving us concrete proposals?

He’s a bigger asshole and has bigger hair. Do those count? He is also a much better master of talking out of his ass and using social media to rant than Clinton will ever be…

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031/29 "2016-06-10T21:18:21Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Care to, yanno, justify this? Again, on one hand we have a guy with no political experience whatsoever who thinks making US debt no longer a solid investment is a good idea, and on the other hand we have a former secretary of state who maybe lied about an email server?

The RW has been demonizing Hillary since 1992, they have too much emotional investment in it to think straight.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031/30 "2016-06-10T21:18:46Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> I can think of nothing short of assassination that can stop it now.

Natural causes. He is of an age and temperment where he has a non-zero chance of a fatal heart attack or aneurysm. I don’t know about his other risk factors (smoking, drinking, weight). I’m not wishing death on him or anything, just being pedantic. Clinton is also at risk for these things, but by age, sex, and temperment, rather less so.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031/31 "2016-06-10T23:54:29Z")

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> Natural causes. He is of an age and temperment where he has a non-zero chance of a fatal heart attack or aneurysm. I don’t know about his other risk factors (smoking, drinking, weight). I’m not wishing death on him or anything, just being pedantic. Clinton is also at risk for these things, but by age, sex, and temperment, rather less so.

But, Trump’s doctor says he’s the healthiest patient he’s ever examined! Why would he get it wrong?!

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031/32 "2016-06-11T00:13:51Z")

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> Natural causes. He is of an age and temperment where he has a non-zero chance of a fatal heart attack or aneurysm. I don’t know about his other risk factors (smoking, drinking, weight). I’m not wishing death on him or anything, just being pedantic. Clinton is also at risk for these things, but by age, sex, and temperment, rather less so.

Trump: “I never had a drink, I never had a glass of alcohol,” because he has seen what happens when people “lose control.”

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/6VskculJbx0/maxresdefault.jpg "Trump: "No Drugs, No alcohol, No Cigarettes."") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VskculJbx0)

Apparently, Trump’s late brother was an alcoholic. That said, there does exist a [Trump branded Vodka](http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-trump-vodka/) as well as a Trump wine. Or at least there did, until his Vodka business collapsed.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031/33 "2016-06-11T00:30:03Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> That said, there does exist a [Trump branded Vodka](http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-trump-vodka/) as well as a Trump wine. Or at least there did, until his Vodka business collapsed.

I love the description of the company that Trump (“i only work with the best”) chose to work with:

> [@](#):
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> Drinks Americas had been selling for less than a dollar each. (Kenny had executed a reverse merger with a company that made jalapeño mustard to get it listed.) That put it in the penny-stock corner of the market. Even when listings there aren’t bogus or close to collapse, as many are, they’re long shots. Drinks Americas wasn’t filing reports to regulators on time. It wasn’t a glamorous operation. The phone number for its office in Connecticut had belonged to a pizza parlor, and callers would get upset when they couldn’t order calzones.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031/34 "2016-06-11T01:30:34Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> The RW has been demonizing Hillary since 1992, they have too much emotional investment in it to think straight.

So they should be rewarded for their years of work-shy obstructionism by making Trump POTUS?

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031/35 "2016-06-11T01:35:42Z")

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[I had to check this site](http://howmanyofme.com/people/Hillary_Clinton/) to make sure this wasn’t about some _other_ person named Hillary Clinton. Nope, there’s apparently only one. Okay, then.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031/36 "2016-06-11T02:37:33Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> OK, so please give ONE. POSITIVE. ATTRIBUTE. that Trump has, that would make him a BETTER. PRESIDENT. than Clinton.
> 
> Not “least worst”, not “at least he’s not a horrible liar/evil person like Shillary”
> 
> ONE. THING. that would make him a better president.

I like **dracoi’s** concept of the televised New Fireside Chat. Trump’s people could phone up all the chicks who lose the Miss Universe contest and hire them to dance naked behind Trump while he talks.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031/37 "2016-06-11T03:07:27Z")

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Clinton. It’s not even close. A more challenging question would be to ask who would be better between Trump and Al Sharpton.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031/38 "2016-06-11T03:11:18Z")

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Given the two choices, Hillary Clinton. Now, if you had included a hydrocephalic chimpanzee as one of the options, the question becomes a lot harder.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031/39 "2016-06-11T03:14:50Z")

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Naw, Clinton is likely to make a better President than most politicians out there, although I would have rated her fourth in the Democratic field behind O’Malley, Webb, and Chaffee. Democrats don’t do experience anymore though. Apparently Republicans don’t either. Hurray for the reality show era.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031/40 "2016-06-11T03:24:21Z")

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They both would/will be awful. It doesn’t matter who is elected, the next four years are going to be terrible.

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