# Clinton v. Trump: Who would make the better POTUS? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 10, 2016, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031 "2016-06-10T16:53:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031/121 "2016-06-23T12:56:15Z")
Brent Scowcroft, national security advisor to Ford and Bush the Elder, thinks Hillary would make a better POTUS than Trump: [http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/22/politics/hillary-clinton-brent-scowcroft-endorsement/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/22/politics/hillary-clinton-brent-scowcroft-endorsement/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031/122 "2016-06-23T14:17:20Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > \*\*PSXer \*\*had [a poll on taking popcorn tubs out of the trash](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=571552) to get free refills. > > Poll results were 3.26% in favor. > Currently Trump is only slightly more popular that taking popcorn tubs out of the trash at 4.81% This has been the biggest laugh I’ve had in months. Easily. Anyway, [every population has a crazification factor](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Crazification_factor) > [@](#): > > Crazification factor (alternatively known as the “Keyes constant”\[1\]) is a neologism coined by blogger John Rogers to refer to the portion of the electorate comprising the nuttiest of the wingnuts and the batshit crazy. > > [snip] > > [Rogers wrote:]Obama vs. Alan Keyes. Keyes was from out of state, so you can eliminate any established political base; both candidates were black, so you can factor out racism; and Keyes was plainly, obviously, completely crazy. Batshit crazy. Head-trauma crazy. But 27% of the population of Illinois voted for him.\[2\] They put party identification, personal prejudice, whatever ahead of rational judgement. Hell, even like 5% of Democrats voted for him. That’s crazy behaviour. I think you have to assume a 27% crazification factor in any population. So the SDMB crazification factor is less than 5%. That’s down in the noise in most polls, and it’s apparently only part of the “Not A Democrat” boost a candidate can expect from SDMB members. * * * 1. 1 2. 4 ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031/123 "2016-06-23T16:37:12Z")
> [@Malthus](#): > > A random person pulled off the street would have a very high probability of making a better POTUS than Trump. I would place the probability at well over fifty percent. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031/124 "2016-06-23T18:28:05Z")
> [@Malthus](#): > > A random person pulled off the street would have a very high probability of making a better POTUS than Trump. If you haven’t already, you’ll want to have a look here: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=794045](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=794045) ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031/125 "2016-06-23T23:02:22Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > If you haven’t already, you’ll want to have a look here: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=794045](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=794045) Someone needs to post a “Trump vs. Turnip in a little hat” poll. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031/126 "2016-06-24T02:12:34Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Someone needs to post a “Trump vs. Turnip in a little hat” poll. A fresh, clean turnip, with a very clear delineation between the purple and cream colored ends? No contest, especially if the little hat is a poor fitting toque. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031/127 "2016-06-25T02:39:56Z")
At least a turnip will never insult POWs, immigrants, women or Scots. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031/128 "2016-06-25T07:22:48Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Give us ONE REASON WHY Trump would make a better POTUS. ONE REASON. I clicked Clinton in the poll, but my insights from Thailand may give a hint why some Americans (probabaly not Dopers?) might prefer Trump. Thailand often elects criminals and fraudsters to be Prime Minister. Engaging the natives in political discussion, I was surprised to learn that they _knew_ the man they were voting for was a criminal. The explanation for their support is simple: it takes a _lot of talent_ to become a billionaire criminal, and they want a talented man in charge. For example, consider Trump University. Any libtard academic could probably develop a good University if he spends to hire good teachers, etc. But it takes great talent to get rich from a University which is just a fraud. I vaguely understand this bad argument, but am surprised people would expect a selfish fraudster to suddenly convert to unselfish public service upon election. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031/129 "2016-06-25T14:37:14Z")
I actually do have a theory about the 5%, and it’s actually rational: Trump is always willing to talk to the press, and he routinely embarrasses himself when he does. Clinton won’t talk to the press. 200 days since her last press conference(where she embarrassed herself). True to form, the Clinton campaign even lies to the press about how much they’ve talked to the press. I’m pretty sure the press knows whether she’s answering their questions or not. So who do you prefer? The guy who is always willing to answer questions, but sounds like an idiot when he does, or the lady who isn’t wiling to answer questions, but on the few occasions she does, also embarrasses herself(albeit in a different way). While avoiding the media is a smart political strategy, it does speak to her fitness for the Presidency that she is unwilling to answer questions. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-who-would-make-the-better-potus/757031.md?page=6)