# Clinton: We made a person who committed sexual assault president

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**Created:** [October 14, 2017, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875 "2017-10-14T23:37:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2017, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/1 "2017-10-14T23:37:31Z")

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Again?

Story here:

[http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/ar-AAtqWYC?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp](http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/ar-AAtqWYC?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp)

Goddamn, this woman is stupid!

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/2 "2017-10-15T00:02:24Z")

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While Bill Clinton committed sex crimes as well as Trump (although Trump seems more prolific), I don’t get what you are saying. What makes her stupid?

Also what bothers me about the Weinstein situation is Hollywood has known about it for years, it is just that now that he is not making blockbuster pictures, earning millions of dollars and winning tons of awards that society turns on him. When the money and awards were rolling in everyone looked the other way.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/3 "2017-10-15T00:28:48Z")

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Did you actually even read what you linked? She was asked about Weinstein, and she pointed out that we have such a problem with this in our country that we even just elected a sexual predator to the White House. That we’d elected one before would only further her point.

Sure, maybe what she said would be politically unwise, given her own husband’s history. But she’s not running for office anymore. Why does she care about that? What she said is the truth, even if it’s not “politically correct” for her to be the one to say it.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/4 "2017-10-15T00:53:22Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Did you actually even read what you linked? She was asked about Weinstein, and she pointed out that we have such a problem with this in our country that we even just elected a sexual predator to the White House. That we’d elected one before would only further her point.

Did you read it? She was asked about her own knowledge of Weinstein’s actions, and she said “Look over there; Trump!!”

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> “Look, we just elected someone who admitted sexual assault to the presidency. So there’s a lot of other issues that are swirling around these kinds of behaviors that need to be addressed,” Clinton said when asked if she had heard rumors of Weinstein’s behavior before the bombshell reports.

Emphasis added. Now, if you go to the original link, she first denies knowledge about Weinstein’s action, but quickly pivoted to pointing at Trump.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/5 "2017-10-15T01:06:21Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> What makes her stupid?

> [@BigT](#):
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> Sure, maybe what she said would be politically unwise, given her own husband’s history.

This. Even if she is absolutely correct, she doesn’t seem to grasp that whatever she says is going draw the obvious response, negating whatever her point was.

Comes across as incredibly tone-deaf.

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**Author:** ![TimeWinder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@TimeWinder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimeWinder)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/6 "2017-10-15T01:10:09Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Goddamn, this woman is stupid!

She made an entirely factually accurate statement related directly to a question she was asked. If this is “goddamn stupid,” the country is in more serious trouble than I thought.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/7 "2017-10-15T01:17:04Z")

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Someone disagrees with my point of view, so when they make a statement of fact, it is stupid of them to do so.

_Noted._

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/8 "2017-10-15T01:19:26Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> This. Even if she is absolutely correct, she doesn’t seem to grasp that whatever she says is going draw the obvious response, negating whatever her point was.
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> Comes across as incredibly tone-deaf.

[Bill Clinton sexual misconduct allegations](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_misconduct_allegations)

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> Bill Clinton, the 42nd President of the United States (1993–2001), has been publicly accused of sexual misconduct by three women. Apart from these three accusers, many other women have accused Clinton of **consensual adultery**.
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> Juanita Broaddrick accused Clinton of rape; Kathleen Willey accused Clinton of groping her without consent; and Paula Jones accused Clinton of exposing himself and sexually harassing her. Charges of sexual misconduct somewhat gained heightened publicity during Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign. In addition to these accusers, several other women have accused Clinton of consensual adultery.
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> Of all the allegations made against him regarding his sexual history, Clinton has only admitted extramarital relationships with Monica Lewinsky and Gennifer Flowers. Through his representatives, he has responded to the allegations by attempting to discredit the credibility of the accusers, **noting that (in the case of Broaddrick and Willey) they previously testified, under oath, that Clinton never made unwanted advances. Several witnesses close to Willey and Jones state that the two women described their encounter with Clinton as consensual.**

Assuming this is all true, Trump implied that groping women was a regular thing. He also bragged that he could go into contestants’ dressing rooms at pageants, which included underage contestants.  
I don’t see the two as comparable.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/9 "2017-10-15T01:40:05Z")

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Nope. Sorry, that was a dumb thing for her to say. Coming from anyone else, it would have been fine.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/10 "2017-10-15T01:42:40Z")

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Who’s “we”? I didn’t vote for that incomprehensibly unprepared and unqualified prick.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/11 "2017-10-15T02:17:39Z")

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Hillary Clinton’s campaign is over, she can have any opinion she wants. She is a private citizen. You ain’t gotta buy her book or watch her hawk it on T.V. ! Obviously she has forgiven her horn dog husband. He was investigated to the extremes and never charged with a crime. So give it up. Their drama is old news. OTOH we have a creep in the Whitehouse now, an idiotic movie mogul who is hanging himself. I am more worried about the idiot in power, I could really care less what happens on the casting couch !

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/12 "2017-10-15T02:19:52Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> Nope. Sorry, that was a dumb thing for her to say. Coming from anyone else, it would have been fine.

Emphasis added.

This.

Hillary Clinton can say/do no right in the eyes of some.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/13 "2017-10-15T02:47:36Z")

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And can say/do no wrong in the eyes of others.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/14 "2017-10-15T02:49:39Z")

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Yep, all us dangerous women!!

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/15 "2017-10-15T03:02:16Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Again?

Thomas Jefferson has been dead for almost two hundred years. Let it go.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/16 "2017-10-15T03:41:45Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Sure, maybe what she said would be politically unwise, given her own husband’s history. But she’s not running for office anymore.

:dubious:

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/17 "2017-10-15T04:17:28Z")

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> [@Projammer](#):
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> And can say/do no wrong in the eyes of others.

What a profoundly stupid thing to say. There are/were plenty of people who preferred her to Trump as president. Very very few people, if any, put her up on a pedestal.

I mean, the whole “ya’ll think Obama is the Messiah” thing was stupid enough, but there were at least people who really really love(d) Obama.

There are plenty of politicians, both sides of the aisle, who engender that level of unthinking loyalty in their fans… Obama, Bernie and Trump, to name a few. Hillary Clinton was never among them.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/18 "2017-10-15T04:54:57Z")

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The allegations (of criminal behavior) against Bill Clinton are just that, allegations. There are no tapes and, as far as I know anyway, he’s never called Chelsea a fine “piece of ass”.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/19 "2017-10-15T05:24:30Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> The allegations (of criminal behavior) against Bill Clinton are just that, allegations. There are no tapes and, as far as I know anyway, he’s never called Chelsea a fine “piece of ass”.

Amen!!

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/20 "2017-10-15T05:29:35Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> The allegations (of criminal behavior) against Bill Clinton are just that, allegations. There are no tapes and, as far as I know anyway, he’s never called Chelsea a fine “piece of ass”.

I think it’s a key difference. Clinton was accused of committing sexual assault by his enemies. Trump bragged about committing sexual assault to his friends.

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