# Clinton: We made a person who committed sexual assault president

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 14, 2017, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875 "2017-10-14T23:37:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/61 "2017-10-16T16:39:59Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Just because a university has a police department does not mean those officers are “rentacops”. For example, the police at the University of California are sworn police officers just like the “matching city cops”. And given your previous posts about police which show your prejudice is your motivating and guiding factor, I find it impossible to believe what you posted above.
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> Mind you, I am not belittling the issue of rape. I am belittling you. You are simply trolling, using a very serious and hot button issue to troll for attention. You cannot get banned soon enough. And that sentiment has nothing to do with your gender.

NO you are not belittling the issue of rape, you are rape-blaming a women who was assaulted in the most profound way. Of course she will have cop issues, they didn’t believe her despite evidence on hand.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/62 "2017-10-16T16:49:17Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> NO you are not belittling the issue of rape, you are rape-blaming a women who was assaulted in the most profound way. Of course she will have cop issues, they didn’t believe her despite evidence on hand.

Good grief, you are fucking stupid. I am not rape blaming anyone, you asshole. I am calling a lying sack of crap troll out on her trolling. She’s full of shit.

Now, why don’t you get off your ass and check out my previous posts regarding rape to see how I feel about the issue.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/63 "2017-10-16T17:31:04Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Good grief, you are fucking stupid. I am not rape blaming anyone, you asshole. I am calling a lying sack of crap troll out on her trolling. She’s full of shit.
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> Now, why don’t you get off your ass and check out my previous posts regarding rape to see how I feel about the issue.

Nope, I won’t be doing that! Because I don’t care what your opinion on anything is ! When you grow a uterus then you may have an opinion on how women feel about rape and sexual assualt. AND do you have to be so juvenile as to. . call people names, grow up. Get a better vocabulary!

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/64 "2017-10-16T17:43:32Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Nope, I won’t be doing that! Because I don’t care what your opinion on anything is ! When you grow a uterus then you may have an opinion on how women feel about rape and sexual assualt. AND do you have to be so juvenile as to. . call people names, grow up. Get a better vocabulary!

Of course you won’t do that. It will show how stupid you’ve been with your comment to me. When I grow a uterus? Big whoop. In case you haven’t noticed, a gender without uterus is also victims of rape. And, yes, there have been people of both genders, people close to me, who have been raped. I do have an opinion on it–rape is horrible, it’s wrong, and those who wish it on others are just as despicable as rapists.

Guess who else is despicable: someone who trolls with false accounts of rape. One woman at my university was raped, and very soon after that happened, another woman, this one simply seeking attention, made a false report of rape, completely fabricated. No incident at all, no sexual assault, the woman making the false report was proven to be completely alone at the time. The first woman, the actual victim, was victimized by this stupid stunt. Do I blame the first woman for the rape or her reaction to the other woman’s false report? Of course not.

Regarding the vocabulary: this is The BBQ Pit. Perhaps you’ve heard of it? That’s actually part of the “board culture”.

By the way, to “rape blame” someone means that one is blaming the person for the rape occurring. For me to be rape blaming, I would have to first believe the incident related by the other poster happened. Since I believe the entire incident is pure fiction on the other poster’s part, there is no blame from me for a rape occurring.

I have had zero interaction with you until tonight. Seems like my string of good luck has run out.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/65 "2017-10-16T17:57:34Z")

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Name calling is just weak, it is part of a Jr.Highschool playground culture too, don’t make it right, does it? You mother should wash your mouth with soap! You can’t understand violation without lady parts. Man-rape is a different issue ( no less horrible ). We are discussing, particularly females being assaulted and/or used and abused by men if power. Stick to the topic, if your dirty mouth can come up with words to man-splain, maybe I will listen! ( by the way it is still daytime, here)

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/66 "2017-10-16T18:40:50Z")

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> [@Chisquirrel](#):
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> And if that’s what Clinton had done, I would agree she should be excoriated. But if someone asks the Pope, “What do you think about Jerry Sandusky?” and he replied, “We have assholes molesting children everywhere!”, would it equally raise your ire?

I don’t know. Is he wearing a funny hat at the time?

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/67 "2017-10-16T19:05:51Z")

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This thread has Clinton derangement syndrome on full display.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/68 "2017-10-16T22:41:01Z")

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This isn’t about Clinton. But, I still gotta alot of fight left in me! Put your big girl panties on and face the facts. We ain’t gonna keep still and shut up , any more.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/69 "2017-10-16T23:04:22Z")

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Lol, Hillary makes some people uncomfortable by stating a truth.

For all the men in this thread whining about Hillary daring to say something, do yourselves a favor: ask the women in your lives… moms, daughters, wives, friends… if they have been sexually assaulted/groped/pressured/raped. You may not like what you learn.

Holy hell, the guys who say “her husband was one too, she shouldn’t speak” completely miss the point: **Hillary isn’t guilty for Bill’s transgressions, no matter how much you want her to be, but was a victim of them.** She has as much right to speak as, say, Weinstein’s wife.

Glad this thread is already in the Pit so I can call this whining for the fucking immoral bullshit it is.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/70 "2017-10-16T23:15:56Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Point is, if the Catholic Church came out with a scathing editorial about the evils of Child Sexual Abuse, it would be **completely accurate and correct** , but the message would be totally lost, because the obvious response would be, _“Well, who the fuck are you to talk? Get your own shit in order first!”_
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> …

Yeah, yeah! Because her husband cheated on her! Ha ha!! It makes perfect sense, if yer fucked in yer head!

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/71 "2017-10-16T23:53:28Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Point is, if the Catholic Church came out with a scathing editorial about the evils of Child Sexual Abuse, it would be **completely accurate and correct** , but the message would be totally lost, because the obvious response would be, _“Well, who the fuck are you to talk? Get your own shit in order first!”_
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> But Hillary seems to be too stupid or arrogant to see this. A little of Part A and a little of Part B…
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> She should really just Shut The Fuck Up.
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> That’s all.

Were you this offended when Newt Gingrich criticized Clinton for adultery or when Donald Trump criticized Bill Clinton for sexual allegations, or when he accused Hillary Clinton for abusing charity money?

I don’t get why you people hate Hillary so much.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/72 "2017-10-17T00:21:00Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> I don’t get why you people hate Hillary so much.

She doesn’t get it either.

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**Author:** ![Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maggie_the_Ocelot)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/73 "2017-10-17T00:29:55Z")

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Germane to this discussion: [Rebecca Solnit on Harvey Weinstein, Hillary Clinton, and Blaming Women for the Acts of Men ‹ Literary Hub](http://lithub.com/things-that-are-hillary-clintons-fault-starting-with-harvey-weinstein/)

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/74 "2017-10-17T00:54:35Z")

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> [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](#):
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> Germane to this discussion: [Rebecca Solnit on Harvey Weinstein, Hillary Clinton, and Blaming Women for the Acts of Men ‹ Literary Hub](http://lithub.com/things-that-are-hillary-clintons-fault-starting-with-harvey-weinstein/)

very good

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/75 "2017-10-17T02:08:05Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> To be fair, it is kind of exploitative and skeevy to enter into a sexual relationship with someone who’s your subordinate and half your age, even if it was consensual between adults.

In any corporation, HR would tell you that’s sexual harassment.

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**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/76 "2017-10-17T02:26:19Z")

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> [@aruvqan](#):
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> … and the double black eye, cracked jaw and broken nose were simply ‘love taps’.

Good god, I sure hope you’re describing the marks you left on your assailant. ☹  
(Also, maybe don’t be so mean-spirited in your description of the officers who treated your unprovoked, violent assault with such indifference. Apparently it upsets some people here.)

> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> I don’t get why you people hate Hillary so much.

I kind of do, but I think it’s ridiculously exaggerated and mostly for less than legitimate reasons.

> [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](#):
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> Germane to this discussion: [Literary Hub » Rebecca Solnit on Harvey Weinstein, Hillary Clinton, and Blaming Women for the Acts of Men](http://lithub.com/things-that-are-hillary-clintons-fault-starting-with-harvey-weinstein/)

Very good indeed.😁

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/77 "2017-10-17T02:36:46Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Name calling is just weak, it is part of a Jr.Highschool playground culture too, don’t make it right, does it?

Well, in junior high, it’s a prohibited (usually) part of the culture. Here, though, it’s part and parcel of what this site calls The BBQ Pit. One could even say that’s the Pit’s _raison d’être_.

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> You mother should wash your mouth with soap!

Well, that’s not going to be happening since she just died a couple of months ago. Anyway, if you’re going to be such a delicate snowflake, perhaps you shouldn’t post stupid stuff to get called out on stupidity.

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> You can’t understand violation without lady parts.

Absolutely incorrect.

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> Man-rape is a different issue ( no less horrible ).

So it’s just as bad but still not as bad? A male who has been raped or a male who knows someone who has been raped can have no opinion on rape of either males or females but it’s perfectly okay for you to pontificate without bothering to read for comprehension? Good to know.

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> We are discussing, particularly females being assaulted and/or used and abused by men if power. Stick to the topic, if your dirty mouth can come up with words to man-splain, maybe I will listen! ( by the way it is still daytime, here)

Well, it’s now daytime here, which means that it was night-time when I posted earlier. And there was no man-splaining. I pointed out your incredible mistake and you began to whine.

No mansplaining from me. No pontificating. Just pointing out how incredibly wrong you are. Of course, I was also calling out a troll on her trolling. I’ve called her out before and I’ll call her out again.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/78 "2017-10-17T03:28:17Z")

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With so many of you libtards making up #Lies about the most Presidential President since Abraham Lincoln (not many know it, but Abe was a _[SIZE=“2”]Republican_)[/SIZE], it’s heart-warming to know that many still understand that Hating the Clintons is our most important national goal. It’s that shared hatred that will help us come together as a country.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/79 "2017-10-17T03:43:40Z")

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Keep on man-splaining!

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/80 "2017-10-17T03:53:25Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Keep on man-splaining!

You continue to show your own prejudices.

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