# Clinton: We made a person who committed sexual assault president **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 14, 2017, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875 "2017-10-14T23:37:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/121 "2017-10-19T18:39:24Z")
Oh; I apologize, **Mr. Artist.** I didn’t know you voted for Hillary. I guess I should place you with **Bricker** , then — as a right-winger smart enough not to like Trump, even though you agree with most of his agenda. Is that right? What made you change your mind? — Was it when you figured out that everything Trump says is a lie? Do you mind answering three questions so we can understand your perspective? 1. Recently Trump called the bereaved widow of Sgt. Johnson, while her Congressperson listened. Trump says Johnson and the Rep. are lying; they say he is. Whom do you believe? 2. What’s your gut feel about complicity between Putin and a major U.S. campaign? Is it Hillary’s team or Trump’s that is probably more guilty? 3. Was Trump’s early concern about Obama’s birthplace legitimate? Let’s just start there. I sincerely want to understand your position. Thanks in advance. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/122 "2017-10-19T18:45:28Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > > [@RTFirefly](#): > > > > > [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > > > > > Look, it was common knowledge that Bill Clinton was an adulterer, and he was elected anyway. > > > > Actually, no. > > > > I mean, sure, it may well have been common knowledge among Arkansas politicians, but when Clinton was elected, most of us just knew about Gennifer Flowers’ claims, and there didn’t seem to be much to that, if you weren’t paying much attention. Which most people weren’t, other than that one time when Bill and Hillary were interviewed on TV about it. > > Sorry, but this is so wrong. Bill Clinton’s first national Bimbo Eruption was prior to the 1992 Iowa Caucus, even appearing on 60 minutes 2 weeks prior to voting… and trust me, this wasn’t, how did you put it, the “one time when Bill and Hillary were interviewed on TV about it”. Um, we’re talking about the same thing here. Gennifer Flowers. Prior to the Iowa Caucus. Bill and Hillary interviewed on TV about it - yeah, _60 Minutes_ sounds right, now that you refresh my recollection. Look, if you’re saying _Gennifer Flowers’ allegation_ was common knowledge, oh, absolutely. But was it “common knowledge [at the time] that Bill Clinton was an adulterer”? Hell, no! ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/123 "2017-10-19T18:49:57Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Sure, and I have no problem with that…as long as it’s done honestly and in context. We’ve taken pity on you and discussed only your racism so far, but since you ask so nicely: What is the honest, contextual way to discuss experiments with cardboard tubes? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/124 "2017-10-19T18:58:10Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Oh; I apologize, **Mr. Artist.** I didn’t know you voted for Hillary. I said I didn’t vote for Trump; I didn’t say I voted for Hillary. (Came _this_ close, but just couldn’t pull the trigger.) 😛 As for the rest of your post, I don’t have time right now neither to go into all that nor all the things that would probably spin off from it because work beckons. Maybe some other time, now that you’re being all reasonable and shit. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/125 "2017-10-19T19:29:30Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > If you’re listening to **septimus** you don’t know much. Take for example the way he’s gone out of his way here to make me look like a huge Trump supporter by taking things I said earlier on but omitting the fact that I eventually became convinced that I was wrong about Trump and didn’t vote for him, as he should well know since I’ve had occasion to say so a dozen times or more since the election. **septimus** is up there with **ElvisL1ves** for being one of the most stupid and dishonest liberal posters on the board. Are you implying he changed your quotes? As for not voting for Trump, you’ve done plenty to defend his actions and policies since the election. Your non-vote was nullified somewhere around Valentine’s Day, due to so much water-carrying. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2017, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/126 "2017-10-20T17:11:43Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > Still got raped, just didn’t ‘go quietly’ and I really don’t care what some random asshole on the internet thinks, I know what happened, and while it has impacted how I do things [I am more careful with personal security] it didn’t stop me from developing relationships [both good and bad, can’t screen for bad sometimes, they get really good at hiding their problems] and hasn’t stopped me from volunteering at womens shelters or being willing to discuss it with people. **Aruvqan** , thank you for sharing such a personal experience. Although it is tangential to this rather silly pitting of Hillary Clinton, I think it adds important perspective to the broader topic of social attitudes toward sexual assault, and the lingering reluctance to fully confront and combat such a widespread problem. I was brought up in a religious environment where, sadly, the idea was taught that rape was a “fate worse than death” that could rob someone of their virtue. I consider this to be an utterly horrible notion, and one I am determined that my own children will not be fooled into believing. It is inspiring to hear an account such as yours of someone who has shown that their will and the value of their life is greater than the ordeal they have suffered. ---
**Author:** ![LongTimeLurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/45deac/32.png) [@LongTimeLurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LongTimeLurker)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2017, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/127 "2017-10-22T04:10:32Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > OK > [though with a web cam and a quick finger down the throat we can get confirmation of what you had for lunch … blech =) At the time I had definite injuries and a rape kit done in a local hospital, so it really was particularly tasteless asking me if I were certain I would like to report a rape. Since I had a hunk o’rapist to help confirm that some guy was in fact the correct guy, I saw no reason I should be treated like I was lying, and trying to pin it on some random guy.] > > Still got raped, just didn’t ‘go quietly’ and I really don’t care what some random asshole on the internet thinks, I know what happened, and while it has impacted how I do things [I am more careful with personal security] it didn’t stop me from developing relationships [both good and bad, can’t screen for bad sometimes, they get really good at hiding their problems] and hasn’t stopped me from volunteering at womens shelters or being willing to discuss it with people. I am so sorry for the pain you went through during the rape. I am doubly sorry for the pain you went through after the rape, the disconnect that your ‘friends’ seemed to have with you after your trauma. I don’t have many friends myself, but some of your ‘friends’ don’t seem to be concerned about your welfare. aruvqan, It seems like you have handled this episode in your life very well. I applaud you for your strength, and I am glad that you have your life well in hand. You are strong and intelligent, you will be fine. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875.md?page=6)