# Clinton won't be testifying next week. Concussion? Anyone else confused? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [December 16, 2012, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-wont-be-testifying-next-week-concussion-anyone-else-confused/644146 "2012-12-16T01:39:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-wont-be-testifying-next-week-concussion-anyone-else-confused/644146/41 "2012-12-18T06:12:46Z")
There’s no such thing as “just getting your bell rung”. You don’t have to be knocked unconscious for a head injury to be serious. I mentioned Crosby above – he wasn’t knocked out. The symptoms that you are describing are those of a [_concussion_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concussion). And damn straight those “shake it off” days are scary. Look up [CTE](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_traumatic_encephalopathy). (I’m a big hockey fan, and this has been a huge issue in the last few years. It’s also big news in football as well.) You didn’t get your bell rung, dude. You had some serious injuries. And depending on how bad Clinton’s fall was, she’s wise to wait. ---
**Author:** ![bahimes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e36b37/32.png) [@bahimes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bahimes)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-wont-be-testifying-next-week-concussion-anyone-else-confused/644146/42 "2012-12-18T12:35:33Z")
> [@](#): > > **Zebra** The embassy in Iran had Marines. The Marines at embassies have very strict rules of engagement. They point of the embassy is to show America as a nice country. Not a place bristling with gun towers and barbed wire. \*\*Embassies \*\*have Marine Security Guards. The only \*\*Consulates \*\*I know of with MSG Detachments are Istanbul, Frankfurt and Hong Kong. I am sure there are others, but Benghazi was not one of them. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-wont-be-testifying-next-week-concussion-anyone-else-confused/644146/43 "2012-12-18T13:13:47Z")
> [@lavenderviolet](#): > > I don’t feel that I can assign blame for what happened in Benghazi, but I do think the administration’s lack of transparency is extremely hypocritical and concerning. I definitely think that the people who are trying to make excuses for the Obama administration on this issue would totally be frothing at the mouth with rage over how “BUSHITLER LIED!!!111” if this had happened under Bush’s watch. 100% agree. Bush couldn’t do anything without some nutjob accusing him of doing it for some sinister agenda. If they used the same cynical filter with Obama that they did with Bush, they’d already be accusing President Obama of masterminding the shooting in Connecticut to further his anti-gun crusade. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-wont-be-testifying-next-week-concussion-anyone-else-confused/644146/44 "2012-12-18T13:17:08Z")
I, for one, demand an investigation into gasoline prices. It’s oh, so convenient that they have fallen almost a dollar since the election. Oh wait… ---
**Author:** ![DadWagonDriver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/edb3f5/32.png) [@DadWagonDriver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DadWagonDriver)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-wont-be-testifying-next-week-concussion-anyone-else-confused/644146/45 "2012-12-18T13:24:47Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > And let the record reflect that I just defended Hilary fucking Clinton. No joke, my jaw hit the floor when I read that. (Thank you for being sane, unlike a lot of my conservative Facebook friends!) ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-wont-be-testifying-next-week-concussion-anyone-else-confused/644146/46 "2012-12-18T13:49:18Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > They are creating the problem themselves by not being more transparent. > [@Gyrate](#): > > There were [multiple embassy/consulate attacks](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorist_attacks_on_U.S._diplomatic_facilities) during the Bush administration, with roughly 60 people killed according to that link. The fact that you are unaware of them suggests that the “same people” did not react in the manner you suggest. > QED. > [@YogSosoth](#): > > Considering that we already know all we need to know about those attacks and nothing unusual happened nor was there a coverup, I’m completely unfazed by Clinton delaying to testify. Its a non-issue that Republicans want to beat into the ground Yes, this has nothing to do with the administration not being transparent. The Republicans will continue to find a message that extends the outrage, regardless of what the administration says or does, and it need have no relation to facts. Even if the administration had promptly responded to every single request, there would still be calls claiming lack of transparency. It’s a propaganda exercise, and the administration gets nothing for playing along. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-wont-be-testifying-next-week-concussion-anyone-else-confused/644146/47 "2012-12-18T15:34:50Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > 100% agree. Bush couldn’t do anything without some nutjob accusing him of doing it for some sinister agenda. > > If they used the same cynical filter with Obama that they did with Bush, they’d already be accusing President Obama of masterminding the shooting in Connecticut to further his anti-gun crusade. Were any of these “nutjobs” elected officials or candidates for public office? Because that’s the level of GOP nutjobbery we’re seeing here. When come back, bring actual equivalence. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-wont-be-testifying-next-week-concussion-anyone-else-confused/644146/48 "2012-12-18T17:06:14Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > When come back, bring actual equivalence. My point was that there wasn’t an equivalence. Either Bush was being unfairly demonized for everything he did, or Obama is being treated by the same people with kid gloves. Take your pick. ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-wont-be-testifying-next-week-concussion-anyone-else-confused/644146/49 "2012-12-18T18:00:09Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > 100% agree. Bush couldn’t do anything without some nutjob accusing him of doing it for some sinister agenda. > > If they used the same cynical filter with Obama that they did with Bush, they’d already be accusing President Obama of masterminding the shooting in Connecticut to further his anti-gun crusade. Shit, if Bush had been president, 2/3 of the people on this board would be implying (if not outright accusing him) of deliberately having Ambassador Stevens murdered to futher some evil conspiracy. At least Republicans seem content to believe that it was simple incompetance that got Stevens killed. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-wont-be-testifying-next-week-concussion-anyone-else-confused/644146/50 "2012-12-18T18:07:09Z")
Are you suggesting that people on the left are more likely to imagine some sort of evil conspiracy behind the death of an administration official than those on the right? In that case, how do you explain the right-wing conspiracy mongering surrounding the [suicide of Vince Foster](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Vince_Foster)? ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-wont-be-testifying-next-week-concussion-anyone-else-confused/644146/51 "2012-12-18T21:47:53Z")
I’m amused by these authoritative claims of what “would have happened” in some fictional alternate universe. If McCain had beaten Obama, the very same people would be castrating themselves in the newly founded Church of Cybele, fastest-growing form of worship in world history. Hey, prove me wrong. ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-wont-be-testifying-next-week-concussion-anyone-else-confused/644146/52 "2012-12-18T22:06:34Z")
She will develop a case of loss of memory…much as Bill had. Of course, it depends upon what “is” is!😉 ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-wont-be-testifying-next-week-concussion-anyone-else-confused/644146/53 "2012-12-19T00:26:18Z")
> [@Diceman](#): > > Shit, if Bush had been president, 2/3 of the people on this board would be implying (if not outright accusing him) of deliberately having Ambassador Stevens murdered to futher some evil conspiracy. At least Republicans seem content to believe that it was simple incompetance that got Stevens killed. You mean like the people who think Obama was watching the attack live via drone for several hours while ordering any military assistance to stand back and let it happen? That kind of “simple incompetence”? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-wont-be-testifying-next-week-concussion-anyone-else-confused/644146/54 "2012-12-19T00:40:18Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > She will develop a case of loss of memory..much as Bill had. Of course, it depends upon what “is” is!😉 I think you’re conflating Bill’s legal semantic nitpicking with the usual GOP tactic of repeating “I don’t recall” whenever forced to testify about anything. For a while there we all thought [Alberto Gonzalez](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIgbJSrIvWc) was experiencing early onset Alzheimer’s, based on the number of times he said that in relation to things he’d actually personally done. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2012, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-wont-be-testifying-next-week-concussion-anyone-else-confused/644146/55 "2012-12-31T01:33:38Z")
[Now she’s in the hospital after a blood clot was found.](http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/30/16255487-hillary-clinton-admitted-to-hospital-with-blood-clot?lite) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2012, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-wont-be-testifying-next-week-concussion-anyone-else-confused/644146/56 "2012-12-31T15:33:31Z")
> [@Diceman](#): > > Shit, if Bush had been president, 2/3 of the people on this board would be implying (if not outright accusing him) of deliberately having Ambassador Stevens murdered to futher some evil conspiracy. At least Republicans seem content to believe that it was simple incompetance that got Stevens killed. Word. I read some crazy liberal conspiracy theory the other day that claimed George Bush invaded Iraq when he was President. As if. ---
**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2012, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-wont-be-testifying-next-week-concussion-anyone-else-confused/644146/57 "2012-12-31T19:37:32Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > [Now she’s in the hospital after a blood clot was found.](http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/30/16255487-hillary-clinton-admitted-to-hospital-with-blood-clot?lite) This is like one of those worse case scenarios my grandmother was always predicting. If you don’t drink enough water when you’re sick you’ll get dehydrated and pass out and get a concussion and then you’ll get a blood clot from the fall and then you’ll DIE. OMG fine grandma I’ll drink the water. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2012, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-wont-be-testifying-next-week-concussion-anyone-else-confused/644146/58 "2012-12-31T23:18:38Z")
Natasha Richardson died under these circumstances. Fall - concussion - blood clot. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2013, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-wont-be-testifying-next-week-concussion-anyone-else-confused/644146/59 "2013-01-01T00:27:12Z")
are you comprehending the seriousness of Hillary’s condition now? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-wont-be-testifying-next-week-concussion-anyone-else-confused/644146.md?page=2)