# Clinton's add with sleeping children **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 29, 2008, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clintons-add-with-sleeping-children/439674 "2008-02-29T20:53:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Napier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Napier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Napier)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clintons-add-with-sleeping-children/439674/1 "2008-02-29T20:53:34Z")
I read on the CNN web site that the Clinton campaign is showing a television commercial advertisement featuring sleeping children in their beds, and a narrator asking who you’d like to have answering that phone at 3 AM in the event of some unnamed but catastrophic international development. The first thing I think of when I read this is that it sounds like Lyndon Johnson’s ad with the girl plucking petals off a flower, which ran exactly once. Then further along in the article I read that Clinton’s people "brushed aside notions it is reminiscent of the famous Lyndon Johnson ‘Daisy’ ad. “That ad basically envisions the apocalypse, and that is not what this ad does,” Clinton communications director Howard Wolfson said. Well, it is clearly at least sometimes reminiscent of it. So, if some international development that is bad enough to impact your children in their beds at 3 in the morning is not apocalyptic, what is? ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clintons-add-with-sleeping-children/439674/2 "2008-02-29T21:14:08Z")
I just hate it because the ad is basically for John McCain. Which candidate has the most expierence? John McCain does! Gee Hill, thanks for helping out the Democratic Party! Just jump that shark already! ---
**Author:** ![Napier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Napier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Napier)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clintons-add-with-sleeping-children/439674/3 "2008-02-29T21:33:13Z")
Gee, you’re right, Zebra. It IS an ad for McCain, in effect. By the way, the more I think about "“brushed aside notions it is reminiscent of the famous Lyndon Johnson ‘Daisy’ ad” the more it galls me. So I Googled: clinton johnson “daisy ad” and got 892 web sites where somebody apparently shares my misconception to a sufficient extent that they were motivated to publish it on the Web. Brushed aside, indeed! ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clintons-add-with-sleeping-children/439674/4 "2008-02-29T21:58:35Z")
see for yourself: 1964 [Daisy ad](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63h_v6uf0Ao&feature=related) 2008 [Clinton ad](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_VIVFjhDpA) d&r ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clintons-add-with-sleeping-children/439674/5 "2008-03-01T00:31:27Z")
**elfkin** , that was hilarious! The “Daisy” ad is what I thought of at first, too. What the fuck is she thinking? Is she figuring that any coverage is good coverage? What next, is she going to punch out a reporter just to make the front page? Daniel ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clintons-add-with-sleeping-children/439674/6 "2008-03-01T00:45:55Z")
The Obama campaign is already airing [their response](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=879o1_pxO0c). ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clintons-add-with-sleeping-children/439674/7 "2008-03-01T04:07:59Z")
[QUOTE=Zebra] I just hate it because the ad is basically for John McCain. [/QUOTE] [Funny you should mention that](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPadP7eAO9Y). (It’s not from the official campaign, but look at the date it was uploaded.) ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clintons-add-with-sleeping-children/439674/8 "2008-03-01T04:18:22Z")
[QUOTE=Zebra] I just hate it because the ad is basically for John McCain. Which candidate has the most expierence? John McCain does! Gee Hill, thanks for helping out the Democratic Party! Just jump that shark already! [/QUOTE] I got paid to view the add today and voice my opinion of it from an online poll. That’s exactly what I thought. And I’m a Hillary supporter. ---
**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clintons-add-with-sleeping-children/439674/9 "2008-03-01T05:17:30Z")
The biggest WTF moment for me, in that ad, is the claim that Hillary understands the military. If someone understood the military, shouldn’t her [Senate web page](http://clinton.senate.gov/contact/webform.cfm)’s contact form list of name prefixes, which lists almost all possible officer ranks, have, maybe, more than just three enlisted ranks? It sure looks like she’s willing to listen to Zeros, but blueshirt scum shouldn’t bother to contact her. ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clintons-add-with-sleeping-children/439674/10 "2008-03-01T05:47:27Z")
[QUOTE=elfkin477] see for yourself: 1964 [Daisy ad](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63h_v6uf0Ao&feature=related) 2008 [Clinton ad](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_VIVFjhDpA) [/quote] :eek: Oh my! I hadn’t seen the original ad yet, and thought it was a real one at first! (My first clue was the line, “as all good Americans do”. Funny that all the related videos were “Hillary Farts During Debate”, though. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Faruiza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecd19e/32.png) [@Faruiza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Faruiza)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clintons-add-with-sleeping-children/439674/11 "2008-03-01T07:57:57Z")
Did anyone else hear the echoes of Monkeyass Bush in the narrative of the Johnson snip? It was freakin’ eeeeerie! ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clintons-add-with-sleeping-children/439674/12 "2008-03-01T12:48:00Z")
It’s funny I actually thought this ad WAS McCain’s. And I cringed to myself “f’n war monger!” Then it saw it was Hillary’s and thought WTF? ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clintons-add-with-sleeping-children/439674/13 "2008-03-01T13:53:31Z")
[QUOTE=SHAKES] It’s funny I actually thought this ad WAS McCain’s. And I cringed to myself “f’n war monger!” Then it saw it was Hillary’s and thought WTF? [/QUOTE] Perhaps she’s thinking if she can’t have the white house, neither can Obama, and an ad that looks like McCains may subconsciously plant itself in peoples minds and everyone will vote republican…again. Just kidding…but seriously, this dirty nasty crap she is pulling is going to deepen the divide in the dem party and make it harder for Obama to pull a win. I like Obama’s ads countering Clinton’s - here in Southeastern, Connecticut we are seeing a lot fo Rhode Island ads, 3 for every 1 of Clinton’s… I’m campaigning for him today - I hope we can narrow the divide here in CT. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clintons-add-with-sleeping-children/439674/14 "2008-03-01T14:06:29Z")
[QUOTE=Pochacco] The Obama campaign is already airing [their response](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=879o1_pxO0c). [/QUOTE] At the risk of being whooshed, is that the link you intended to use? ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clintons-add-with-sleeping-children/439674/15 "2008-03-01T15:37:07Z")
[Redstate](http://www.redstate.com/stories/elections/2008/hillarys_new_ad) have already hacked the video to change the ending to John McCain. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clintons-add-with-sleeping-children/439674/16 "2008-03-01T17:24:48Z")
Moving thread from IMHO to Great Debates. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clintons-add-with-sleeping-children/439674/17 "2008-03-01T17:56:36Z")
Just as happened with Johnson’s ad, the media are doing Hillary the favor of running this spot _ad nauseum_, as “news.” Free advertising for the Clinton campaign. ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clintons-add-with-sleeping-children/439674/18 "2008-03-01T19:11:03Z")
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal] At the risk of being whooshed, is that the link you intended to use? [/QUOTE] Why, what’s wrong with that link? It doesn’t go to the spoof ad that **elfkin** posted, even though it looks similar. ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clintons-add-with-sleeping-children/439674/19 "2008-03-01T20:14:37Z")
[QUOTE=spoke-] Just as happened with Johnson’s ad, the media are doing Hillary the favor of running this spot _ad nauseum_, as “news.” Free advertising for the Clinton campaign. [/QUOTE] My sense is the ad will not sway anyone who wasn’t already going to vote for Clinton, if anything - such as the case of my Clinton supporting sister - it will further people from voting for her. Especially those folks who remember the Mondal and Johnson ads of the same nature. Clinton is facing loss to Obama and will do anything to sully his attempt at the nomination. It won’t work…she’s not even close to blowing Obama away like she would need to, in fact quite the opposite. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clintons-add-with-sleeping-children/439674/20 "2008-03-01T22:39:47Z")
[QUOTE=elfkin477] … 2008 [Clinton ad](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_VIVFjhDpA) … [/QUOTE] Read some of the comments-some of these idiots seem to think this was the real ad. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clintons-add-with-sleeping-children/439674.md?page=2)