# Clitoral defense exposed

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clitoral-defense-exposed/46576>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 20, 2000, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clitoral-defense-exposed/46576 "2000-12-20T20:29:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![peace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@peace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peace)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2000, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clitoral-defense-exposed/46576/1 "2000-12-20T20:29:50Z")

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WASHINGhttp://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20001220/ts/life\_asylum\_dc\_1.htmlTON (Reuters) - A woman who was granted political asylum in the United States after telling of her fears of genital mutilation if sent back to her native Ghana is an impostor who concocted an elaborate lie, The Washington Post reported on Wednesday.

## I wonder, how many times this woman’s clitor was used, STS, to promote her non-existent cause, to stimulate women lib (no pun intended) and to substansiate different claims. How many other false “proofs” were posted here and elsewhere?

Peace

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**Author:** ![Beadalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2000, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clitoral-defense-exposed/46576/2 "2000-12-20T21:07:35Z")

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a) Learn to spell.

b) Learn to preview your posts.

c) What’s your point, exactly?

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**Author:** ![porcupine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac91a4/32.png) [@porcupine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/porcupine)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2000, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clitoral-defense-exposed/46576/3 "2000-12-20T21:22:55Z")

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I thought this was going to be a variation of “The Twinkie Defense.” - My clitoris made me do it. It’s got a mind of its own.

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**Author:** ![magdalene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@magdalene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magdalene)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2000, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clitoral-defense-exposed/46576/4 "2000-12-20T22:39:40Z")

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peace, I’m having a hard time following your link, can you repost, once more, with feeling?

If it is true, it is an unfortunate setback for women who are legitimately fleeing FGM.

And I am curious, are you trying to make some larger point with this story?

For more SD discussion on FGM, check out [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=41477) thread.

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**Author:** ![magdalene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@magdalene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magdalene)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2000, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clitoral-defense-exposed/46576/5 "2000-12-20T22:45:17Z")

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[Here](http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13252-2000Dec15.html) is the full story from the Post.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2000, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clitoral-defense-exposed/46576/6 "2000-12-20T22:56:12Z")

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> My clitoris made me do it. It’s got a mind of its own.

Substitute the appropriate body part and males have been using this defense all along. I don’t see why it wouldn’t work for women.

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2000, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clitoral-defense-exposed/46576/7 "2000-12-20T23:20:02Z")

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> it is true, it is an unfortunate setback for women who are legitimately fleeing FGM.

It’s true, alright. This woman was caught entering the US illegally with a stolen passport. She then claimed that she was fleeing Ghana because her tribe was going to circumsize her clitoris. Feminists everywhere rallied around her, including Hillary Clinton.

In truth, she’s the daughter of a wealthy Ghanan businessman and nobody is planning on doing anything to her genitalia. She’s just a would-be illegal immigrant that got caught and tried to lie her way out of deportation. Nothing more.

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2000, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clitoral-defense-exposed/46576/8 "2000-12-21T00:53:52Z")

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Your analysis seems spot-on, Diceman.

peace, is there any larger issue you’d like to address here?

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> I wonder, how many times this woman’s clitor was used, STS, to promote her non-existent cause, to stimulate women lib (no pun intended) and to substansiate different claims. How many other false “proofs” were posted here and elsewhere?

While I wholeheartedly reject lying about such a thing, I sure as hell am hoping you’re not implying that the majority, or even a substantial part, of women undergoing FGM are basically liars.

Care to remove the doubt from my mind?

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**Author:** ![malkavia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malkavia/32/5621_2.png) [@malkavia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/malkavia)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2000, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clitoral-defense-exposed/46576/9 "2000-12-21T01:24:30Z")

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I cant believe we’d try to protect someone from genital mutilation when we perform it on a regular basis.

I’d like to see an American male seek refuge somewhere in Europe to avoid circumcision.

_shakes head_

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**Author:** ![Montfort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Montfort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Montfort)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2000, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clitoral-defense-exposed/46576/10 "2000-12-21T01:34:22Z")

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And I thought JDT was banned…

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**Author:** ![dragonlady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f8ce5/32.png) [@dragonlady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dragonlady)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2000, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clitoral-defense-exposed/46576/11 "2000-12-21T01:55:31Z")

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Just when I think I’ve heard the dumbest thing he could possibly have to say…

amazing.

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2000, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clitoral-defense-exposed/46576/12 "2000-12-21T02:07:17Z")

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People, please don’t start slinging insults like monkey feces (learned that this morning in the Pit - I like it) just yet.

Peace gets one (1) chance at explaining his motives properly before I decide what to do with this thread. But he’d better be quick.

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**Author:** ![peace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@peace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peace)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2000, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clitoral-defense-exposed/46576/13 "2000-12-21T02:55:27Z")

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## I am lucky! Just turned on my PC and saw the threat. I wonder what might have happened if I ain’t quick. And why do you have to do anything with this thread at all, Goldfire? If you do not want we in your club, just say so. You do not have to play a big clit youself and count to three. First of all, I did not know that TWP was a no-no, I just copied a few lines from there. Which other publications are forbidden, Goldfire? Is there an official list? Or are you making them rules as you go? My “motives” for quoting the story: I remembered the noise and the movement to make this country the official asylym for all the wronged of the world. That could be an interesting discussion in itself. But I discovered today that the poster child of the campaign turned out to be a criminal. That does not happen too often, and I decided to post it. Within hours, it generated a dozen responses. So, it looks as it attracts people to this MB. So, Goldfire, what is you decision? Can you do anything youself (other than answer me) or do you have to report to your soup? Oh, your last question, Goldfire: no, I do not imply that the majority of GMwomen are liars or criminals. I just think that the PC gang got to check the facts before opening the big mouth. Imagine if the CIA or even a Christian conservative group goofed like that.

Peace

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2000, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clitoral-defense-exposed/46576/14 "2000-12-21T03:37:58Z")

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peace wrote:

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> I wonder, how many times this woman’s clitor was used, STS,

I take it “STS” stands for “So To Speak”?  
(I’ve never seen this abbreviation before.)

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**Author:** ![Rysdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7cd45c/32.png) [@Rysdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysdad)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2000, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clitoral-defense-exposed/46576/15 "2000-12-21T03:49:53Z")

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Ever get that “Huh?” feeling? I just did.

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**Author:** ![Montfort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Montfort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Montfort)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2000, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clitoral-defense-exposed/46576/16 "2000-12-21T04:03:13Z")

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Y’know, if I didn’t know better (and I do), I’d think we have **two** sockpuppets in this thread. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2000, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clitoral-defense-exposed/46576/17 "2000-12-21T04:21:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by tracer \*  
> \*\*peace wrote:
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> > I wonder, how many times this woman’s clitor was used, STS,
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> I take it “STS” stands for “So To Speak”?  
> (I’ve never seen this abbreviation before.) \*\*

No no no no. **STS** has something to do with the Space Shuttle Missions…

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**Author:** ![aha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eada6e/32.png) [@aha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aha)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2000, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clitoral-defense-exposed/46576/18 "2000-12-21T04:25:20Z")

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Goldfire?

I bet that cuts the old clogboy to the quick peace. Here’s some more cutting edge comedy you could use; Boldfire, toldfire, foldfire, holdfire or moldfire.

There you go no charge.

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**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2000, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clitoral-defense-exposed/46576/19 "2000-12-21T04:29:28Z")

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**aha** , let’s not forget the classic “bana-fana-foldfire” and “mi-my-moldmire”

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**Author:** ![Montfort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Montfort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Montfort)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2000, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clitoral-defense-exposed/46576/20 "2000-12-21T04:31:01Z")

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What about holdyourfire?

🆒

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