# Closed? WTF Coldfire? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 13, 2003, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closed-wtf-coldfire/194926 "2003-08-13T15:48:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![fruitbat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fruitbat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fruitbat)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closed-wtf-coldfire/194926/41 "2003-08-13T18:47:37Z")
As an attempt at civilized discussion I would opine that it is bad policy to close threads simply because they are not going the way the OP wants them to. Coldfire is a good mod and need not explain his reasons for closing a thread to me, or anyone else. I would hope though that “the request of the OP” is not a magic bullet to get out of a mess of your own making. I actually agreed with **IDBB** and her ilk (though it pains me to admit it), but if people were offended there is no reason she should get a free pass to stop her own thread. I would expect that if I stir up trouble with an OP that offends people I will need to stick around and face the music. I would not do as **IDBB** did and ask the thread to be closed just because I don’t like what some people think about it. ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closed-wtf-coldfire/194926/42 "2003-08-13T18:49:44Z")
> [@](#): > > And quit dripping sarcasm on this post, Diane. Moi’? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Aries28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Aries28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aries28)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closed-wtf-coldfire/194926/43 "2003-08-13T18:58:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by fruitbat \* > \*\*As an attempt at civilized discussion I would opine that it is bad policy to close threads simply because they are not going the way the OP wants them to. Coldfire is a good mod and need not explain his reasons for closing a thread to me, or anyone else. > > I would hope though that “the request of the OP” is not a magic bullet to get out of a mess of your own making. I actually agreed with **IDBB** and her ilk (though it pains me to admit it), but if people were offended there is no reason she should get a free pass to stop her own thread.\*\* Agreed and I think that is what **Uncle Beer** meant by his comment that there was a lesson to be learned and why he let it stand for a while longer. ---
**Author:** ![CnoteChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/278dde/32.png) [@CnoteChris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CnoteChris)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closed-wtf-coldfire/194926/44 "2003-08-13T19:02:03Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Hamlet_ > **Look, genius, it’s not your ideas that I have a problem with, it’s your self-righteous, whiny attitude and the fact you’d rather bitch, moan, and hop on your cross and play martyr rather than start another thread to continue the discussion.** Ummm… in case you missed the bus here, that’s exactly what I’m arguing about… the fact that the conversation was cut short. I’d have argued until I was blue in the face, or definitively proved otherwise, but the thread was closed. Something I’m missing in your point there? (And a martyr? WooHoo!! I’ve never been called a martyr around here before. Is that what you pull out when someone has an opinion you don’t agree with… a failed, almost deadly, attempt at trying to reason with you? Talk about not being able to talk to someone… anything they say to you is so wroung that it’s considered martyrdom yo object or disagree. What the hell, I’m fine with 'dat!) Oh, and to answer the others, who apparently can ignore the rules whenever they see fit, it’s not exactly encouraged around here to start a thread on a topic that was recently closed (CnoteChris, who can duct and cover like the best of them). Per the thread here, and now. ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closed-wtf-coldfire/194926/45 "2003-08-13T19:05:45Z")
God damn. You’re right sugaree. I take back my post. I just reread her OP and I can’t find it either. I must have confused it with another thread :embarrassed: ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closed-wtf-coldfire/194926/46 "2003-08-13T19:11:28Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by CnoteChris_ > If that isn’t the biggest load of bullshit, I don’t know what is. You must have had some marvelously small loads of bullshit in your life up until this point. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closed-wtf-coldfire/194926/47 "2003-08-13T19:18:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by fruitbat \* > \*\*As an attempt at civilized discussion I would opine that it is bad policy to close threads simply because they are not going the way the OP wants them to. \*\* It’s been my experience that the Mods often don’t close threads just because the OP asks. If they do close a thread after being asked, it’s usually because they feel the thread has become moot or headed for a trainwreck. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CnoteChris \* > \*\*Oh, and to answer the others, who apparently can ignore the rules whenever they see fit, it’s not exactly encouraged around here to start a thread on a topic that was recently closed (CnoteChris, who can duct and cover like the best of them). Per the thread here, and now. \*\* Starting another _You might be white trash if…_ thread = bad idea. Starting a thread purely to discuss stereotypes = good idea. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closed-wtf-coldfire/194926/48 "2003-08-13T19:20:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CnoteChris \* > \*\*Ummm… in case you missed the bus here, that’s exactly what I’m arguing about… the fact that the conversation was cut short. I’d have argued until I was blue in the face, or definitively proved otherwise, but the thread was closed. > > Something I’m missing in your point there?\*\* Obviously, but to tell the truth, I’m not too shocked that you did miss my point. And **dantheman’s** point. And **Diane’s** point. But I wouldn’t worry if I were you. It was only there in really large letters telling you that you could start a new thread to continue the conversation, instead of bitching about a closed thread. > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by CnoteChris \* > \*\* > (And a martyr? WooHoo!! I’ve never been called a martyr around here before. Is that what you pull out when someone has an opinion you don’t agree with… a failed, almost deadly, attempt at trying to reason with you? Talk about not being able to talk to someone… anything they say to you is so wroung that it’s considered martyrdom yo object or disagree. What the hell, I’m fine with 'dat!)_\* Wow. You continue to amaze me with your nearly impeccible ability to completely miss the point. The martyr comment was not because I disagree with you, it’s because you spew shit like: > [@](#): > > but are oblivious to those that call a spade a spade (OOOOPPPSSS!! Better not say that!) > [@](#): > > And sure, I’ll have the group that wants to harp on me at all costs, for things I’ve said to them in the past, and tell me I’m an unredeemable asshole. That’s to be expected > [@](#): > > And pissed at me, and not necessarily what I’m commenting about. It’s to be expected, no problem. > [@](#): > > You should bail now, before you come associated with my bad, evil, ideas. It’s not gonna stop anytime soon Making yourself out to be an aggrieved party when posters point out you could have just started another thread is almost the epitome of martyrdom. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CnoteChris \* > \*\*Oh, and to answer the others, who apparently can ignore the rules whenever they see fit, it’s not exactly encouraged around here to start a thread on a topic that was recently closed (CnoteChris, who can duct and cover like the best of them). Per the thread here, and now. \*\* Thanks for the laugh. But, just so you don’t miss the point again, I’m laughing AT you, not with you. ---
**Author:** ![sugaree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@sugaree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sugaree)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closed-wtf-coldfire/194926/49 "2003-08-13T19:20:45Z")
Okay, taking this away from the ever-fun game of “Who’s an Asshole,” I can see a damn good reason for closing the other thread. IDBB is a controversal poster; she has expressed some half-thought-out ideas, and she’s taken a lot of shit for them, including shit from me. I’m not gonna search her posts and tally up her hang-out forums, but it seems to me that recently, she has been avoiding the Pit in favor of MSPIMS and IMHO, forums where she doesn’t have to hear a litany of things that other posters _think_ is wrong with her. I applaud this as it seems to be psychologically healthier. She posts in MPSIMS; some posters take offense at her views; as the controversy has begun, there is no choice but to move the thread to the Pit, where the controversy heats up accordingly. And even though the topic shifted (to what, IMO, was an interesting discussion), even though she wasn’t even participating anymore, there was still the risk that someone would blow in and bring up the time IDBB went off half-cocked about her mother-in-law, or preppy teens or something. And, as she was the OP, it would be perfectly valid to do so. Look, the saying goes, “If you can’t take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.” IDBB decided to get the hell out the kitchen, and it’s within her rights to do so. Now, if anyone wants to talk about the validity of using white-trash stereotypes, he or she can open a thread about it–without attacking IDBB. And if anyone wants to flame IDBB, he or she can Pit her (she, of course, can choose to ignore any thread). on preview: tell me I’m right some more, jarbabyj! It hardly ever happens and it makes me feel all glowy inside. ---
**Author:** ![CnoteChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/278dde/32.png) [@CnoteChris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CnoteChris)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closed-wtf-coldfire/194926/50 "2003-08-13T19:24:43Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Miller_ > **You must have had some marvelously small loads of bullshit in your life up until this point.** Thankfully, I have :: Knock on wood! :: because this struct me as completely wrong. You have one mod saying, ‘Hey, we’ll keep it open as long as it takes’ and then comments about how lessons need to be learned around here. When lessons aren’t apparently learned, and people begin questioning those that brought up the ‘This is wrong! Think about the children for god sakes!’ type posts, and it’s obviously headed into a different direction, the thread is suddenly closed ‘at the request of the OP’, when it wasn’t hours earlier… and a reasonable discussion was beginning to take place. Sorry, I calls them as I sees them. That was pretty lame. ---
**Author:** ![CnoteChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/278dde/32.png) [@CnoteChris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CnoteChris)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closed-wtf-coldfire/194926/51 "2003-08-13T19:33:59Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Hamlet_ > **Obviously, but to tell the truth, I’m not too shocked that you did miss my point. And dantheman’s point. And Diane’s point…** OK then, help me out. Outside of others telling me I’m an asshole, and why the other thread NEEDED to be closed, explain to me what their point is? (Diane’s I understand… Don’t pay attention to anything I write, pay attention to everything I wr… I honeslty give up with her. Maybe I need to check other message boards to find out what the weasle really means) - Sorry Hamlet, I’m reading, cutting and pasting, all while I reply to your posts. Just got to this nugget… > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Hamelet_ > **…there was still the risk that someone would blow in and bring up the time IDBB went off half-cocked about her mother-in-law, or preppy teens or something. And, as she was the OP, it would be perfectly valid to do so.** I think I saw something like that in the movie ‘Minority Report’. Interesting film… fucked up concept. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closed-wtf-coldfire/194926/52 "2003-08-13T19:37:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CnoteChris \* > \*\*OK then, help me out \*\* No. ---
**Author:** ![CnoteChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/278dde/32.png) [@CnoteChris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CnoteChris)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closed-wtf-coldfire/194926/53 "2003-08-13T19:42:25Z")
Now _that’s_ fucking funny, I don’t care what anyone says. ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closed-wtf-coldfire/194926/54 "2003-08-13T19:43:39Z")
If I were you Cnote, I would ask to have this thread closed. Seriously. ---
**Author:** ![CnoteChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/278dde/32.png) [@CnoteChris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CnoteChris)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closed-wtf-coldfire/194926/55 "2003-08-13T19:48:08Z")
And that’s funny too! You people crack me up. ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closed-wtf-coldfire/194926/56 "2003-08-13T19:52:56Z")
Funny as in “ha ha” or funny as in _funnnnnn-nyyyyy_ IYKWIM? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closed-wtf-coldfire/194926/57 "2003-08-13T19:59:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CnoteChris \* > **OK then, help me out. Outside of others telling me I’m an asshole, and why the other thread NEEDED to be closed, explain to me what their point is?** You didn’t like my opinion? ---
**Author:** ![sugaree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@sugaree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sugaree)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closed-wtf-coldfire/194926/58 "2003-08-13T20:05:37Z")
I’m having an identity crisis. ---
**Author:** ![CnoteChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/278dde/32.png) [@CnoteChris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CnoteChris)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closed-wtf-coldfire/194926/59 "2003-08-13T20:08:30Z")
Jeeze, leave it to you to ruin my funny moment. You… _You_… Funny as in… Haha! By the way, I have no clue what IYKWIM means. I look forward to you not explaining it to me. In terms of your earlier post, maybe I can help you out. The contract I’ve been sitting around here waiting for the last couple of days, finally got approved. Cool. Time to get out of here and make some money! I’ll check in though, and see if anyone’s even close to discussion my objections reasonable and rationally. ---
**Author:** ![Brad\_the\_Impaler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8dc957/32.png) [@Brad\_the\_Impaler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brad_the_Impaler)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2003, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closed-wtf-coldfire/194926/60 "2003-08-13T20:12:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CnoteChris \* > \*\* > By the way, I have no clue what IYKWIM means. I look forward to you not explaining it to me. > > \*\* Sorry Chris, but thats funny. Just to clarify, not belly laugh funny, just a little bit of a chuckle funny. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closed-wtf-coldfire/194926.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closed-wtf-coldfire/194926.md?page=4)