# Closeted Nut of the Week: Andrew Shirvell **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 25, 2011, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closeted-nut-of-the-week-andrew-shirvell/568980 "2011-01-25T23:04:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closeted-nut-of-the-week-andrew-shirvell/568980/1 "2011-01-25T23:04:08Z")
A Michigan assistant attorney general has been, rather inexplicably, running a ferocious one-man hate campaign against… some kid at the University of Michigan, who apparently is a Nazi because he’s gay. That last part is not my hyperbole; Mr. Shirvell’s blog includes pictures of the student with swastikas and such. Raging lunatic… or CLOSETED raging lunatic? > **[Video News - CNN](https://www.cnn.com/videos)** > > Watch breaking news videos, viral videos and original video clips on CNN.com. Thankfully, Mr. Shirvell has been relieved of his duties to the State of Michigan. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closeted-nut-of-the-week-andrew-shirvell/568980/2 "2011-01-25T23:11:12Z")
What, again? ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closeted-nut-of-the-week-andrew-shirvell/568980/3 "2011-01-25T23:54:14Z")
More timely threads on the subject: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=580181&highlight=shirvell](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=580181&highlight=shirvell) [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=580095&highlight=shirvell](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=580095&highlight=shirvell) ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closeted-nut-of-the-week-andrew-shirvell/568980/4 "2011-01-25T23:57:40Z")
Shirvell was fired in early November, after at first being defended by AG Mike Cox. It seems the news _now_ consists of some emerging details from the report the AG’s office compiled at that time, which include things like Shirvell having previously been warned about using “gay slurs” and making vague threats in e-mails sent from an AG office computer to former state representatives, and having pressured the MSU journalism program into dropping a _different_ student who had “crossed” him from an internship position. Also that Shirvell was once a paid campaign staffer on behalf of Mike Cox. Chris Armstrong, the student targeted online, and his attorney Deborah Gordon, are continuing with their effort to have Shirvell disbarred. ---
**Author:** ![seanchai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@seanchai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seanchai)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closeted-nut-of-the-week-andrew-shirvell/568980/5 "2011-01-26T01:02:46Z")
But have Chris and Deborah taken steps to sue the pants off Shirvell and perhaps also many others who knew Shirvell was out of line and stood by? ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closeted-nut-of-the-week-andrew-shirvell/568980/6 "2011-01-26T01:20:29Z")
Closeted raging lunatic. No question. I tried watching that this morning and found it painful. I just would really love to know what issue Shirvell really does have with Armstrong. Is the radical gay agenda fighting with the regular gay agenda? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closeted-nut-of-the-week-andrew-shirvell/568980/7 "2011-01-26T01:48:47Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > Closeted raging lunatic. No question. I tried watching that this morning and found it painful. I just would really love to know what issue Shirvell really does have with Armstrong. Shirvell was turned down for a man-date, I am guessing. ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closeted-nut-of-the-week-andrew-shirvell/568980/8 "2011-01-26T01:52:28Z")
Lol, that’s a quote: "If this Shirvell guy was any more in the closet, he’d fall into Narnia. " (from that old youtube itv [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwObjKZg9Jw](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwObjKZg9Jw) . Dont bother watching, just adding for the completists). ---
**Author:** ![Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superfluous_Parentheses)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closeted-nut-of-the-week-andrew-shirvell/568980/9 "2011-01-26T02:05:44Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > Closeted raging lunatic. No question. I tried watching that this morning and found it painful. I just would really love to know what issue Shirvell really does have with Armstrong. I’m not sure what part of “Closeted raging lunatic” you need to have explained. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closeted-nut-of-the-week-andrew-shirvell/568980/10 "2011-01-26T14:14:55Z")
I think Andrew Shirvell is just bitter from a lifetime of being called “Shrivel.” ETA: I do like the understated irony of Anderson Cooper presenting the story on what appears to be a deeply-closeted lunatic. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closeted-nut-of-the-week-andrew-shirvell/568980/11 "2011-01-26T14:19:30Z")
That’s unfair. Anderson Cooper seems perfectly sane. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closeted-nut-of-the-week-andrew-shirvell/568980/12 "2011-01-26T14:26:14Z")
You can’t work for a guy named Mike Cox and _not_ be a raging homo. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closeted-nut-of-the-week-andrew-shirvell/568980/13 "2011-01-26T14:30:10Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > You can’t work for a guy named Mike Cox and _not_ be a raging homo. That’s why I prefer working for Mike Hunt. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closeted-nut-of-the-week-andrew-shirvell/568980/14 "2011-01-26T14:35:23Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > That’s why I prefer working for Mike Hunt. Mike Hunt is tired of hearing all those jokes. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closeted-nut-of-the-week-andrew-shirvell/568980/15 "2011-01-26T15:28:07Z")
If Mike Hunt married Mike Cox, would that be considered polygamous? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closeted-nut-of-the-week-andrew-shirvell/568980/16 "2011-01-26T15:42:58Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > What, again? I was starting to wonder just how many gay student body presidents the University of Michigan had elected. ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closeted-nut-of-the-week-andrew-shirvell/568980/17 "2011-01-26T15:49:35Z")
> [@ike witt](#): > > is the radical gay agenda fighting with the regular gay agenda? splitters! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closeted-nut-of-the-week-andrew-shirvell/568980/18 "2011-01-26T16:23:59Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > Is the radical gay agenda fighting with the regular gay agenda? And is there mud, jell-o, or baby oil involved? ---
**Author:** ![heatmiserfl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df705f/32.png) [@heatmiserfl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/heatmiserfl)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closeted-nut-of-the-week-andrew-shirvell/568980/19 "2011-01-26T17:00:24Z")
Can someone who is so blatantly gay be considered closeted? The dude’s gay and everyone knows it! Even he knows it since it’s clear that Armstrong turned down his advances. Never underestimate the power of a semi-closeted, rightwing gay man scorned. ---
**Author:** ![Myrnalene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@Myrnalene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myrnalene)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closeted-nut-of-the-week-andrew-shirvell/568980/20 "2011-01-26T18:43:01Z")
If institutionalized homophobia really was just some gay-on-gay culture war, that would let us straight people right off the hook. So every time some piece of crap like Chick or Phelps or Shrivell starts mouthing off, make sure that we as good straight liberal allies use it as an opportunity to sit around and crack homo jokes and blame the gays for their own oppression. That’s the ticket. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closeted-nut-of-the-week-andrew-shirvell/568980.md?page=2)