# Closing threads again
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closing-threads-again/937267
**Category:** About This Message Board
**Created:** [March 5, 2021, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closing-threads-again/937267 "2021-03-05T14:12:49Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2021, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closing-threads-again/937267/1 "2021-03-05T14:12:49Z")
@What_Exit, if you think my thread isn’t a debate, could you please move it to a more appropriate form rather than closing it? It seems like any thread that goes against the majority view gets closed these days. (And meanwhile, accusing an entire demographic group of being pure evil is perfectly fine and acceptable.)
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### Author:  [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2021, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closing-threads-again/937267/2 "2021-03-05T14:27:33Z")
Did you intend this to be a private message to What\_Exit? Do you want me to report it as such?
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### Author:  [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2021, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closing-threads-again/937267/3 "2021-03-05T14:38:12Z")
If you noticed that thread got moved to the Pit where it belongs. Though it at least had a debate.
If you like, I’ll reopen your thread and move it to the pit also. Please let me know.
First thing in the morning, there are often many threads to address. Yours was easier to close as no debate. I actually didn’t think you would want it in the Pit. It didn’t seem appropriate for IMHO.
Also, could you please not play the victim card. That is just embarrassing and resembles a form of trolling.
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### Author:  [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2021, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closing-threads-again/937267/4 "2021-03-05T14:48:41Z")
Straight up it might be good to give DemonTree a ban from starting threads complaining about the persecution of transphobes, _especially_ these threads where she doesn’t mention that’s what she’s doing and you have to dig into her links in order to figure out what she’s doing. The act is getting old.
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### Author:  [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2021, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closing-threads-again/937267/5 "2021-03-05T14:49:27Z")
That’s not remotely what the thread was about. And maybe you should read the bloody link before replying next time.
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### Author:  [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2021, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closing-threads-again/937267/6 "2021-03-05T14:50:07Z")
That was 100% what the thread, and the link, were about. It was about a book called _When Harry Became Sally_ being de-listed on Amazon.
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### Author:  [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2021, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closing-threads-again/937267/7 "2021-03-05T14:51:08Z")
@What_Exit, calling someone a transphobe is an insult, is that allowed outside the pit?
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### Author:  [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2021, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closing-threads-again/937267/8 "2021-03-05T14:53:38Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> That was 100% what the thread, and the link, were about. It was about a book called _When Harry Became Sally_ being de-listed on Amazon.
That wasn’t the only book they delisted. And it’s the principle that’s important. Free speech has to include speech you personally find objectionable (not that you have the least idea what’s in that book) or it’s not free speech.
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### Author:  [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2021, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closing-threads-again/937267/9 "2021-03-05T14:55:07Z")
I’m very careful here to call the authors you’re promulgating “transphobes.” The board’s rules are whimsical and arbitrary, IMO, but I don’t believe I’ve ever called you a transphobe.
Incidentally, here’s from the book’s own description:
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> This book exposes the contrast between the media’s sunny depiction of gender fluidity and the often sad reality of living with gender dysphoria. It gives a voice to people who tried to “transition” by changing their bodies, and found themselves no better off. Especially troubling are the stories told by adults who were encouraged to transition as children but later regretted subjecting themselves to those drastic procedures.
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> As Anderson shows, the most beneficial therapies focus on helping people accept themselves and live in harmony with their bodies. This understanding is vital for parents with children in schools where counselors may steer a child toward transitioning behind their backs.
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> Everyone has something at stake in the controversies over transgender ideology, when misguided “antidiscrimination” policies allow biological men into women’s restrooms and penalize Americans who hold to the truth about human nature. Anderson offers a strategy for pushing back with principle and prudence, compassion and grace.
I feel pretty comfortable calling that “transphobic.”
And you linked to a blog with only a few entries, including:
> [@](#):
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> # Inside Planned Parenthood’s Gender Factory [about hormone thereapy]
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> # “Transwomen Are Women” and other Polite Lies
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> # Biden’s Gender Ideology EO just about inclusion? Don’t believe it.
So, yeah, a transphobic blog, blogging about a transphobic book. But you left all that out of your OP. Let’s all take a moment to meditate on that choice.
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2021, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closing-threads-again/937267/10 "2021-03-05T14:55:08Z")
> [@DemonTree](#):
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> Free speech has to include speech you personally find objectionable -
Ya mean like kneeling in protest?
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### Author:  [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2021, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closing-threads-again/937267/11 "2021-03-05T14:57:13Z")
> [@DemonTree](#):
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> That wasn’t the only book they delisted.
It is the only one mentioned in your cite, and your OP mentioned no others. Come on, don’t treat us like we’re stupid. The jig is up.
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### Author:  [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2021, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closing-threads-again/937267/12 "2021-03-05T14:57:57Z")
> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Ya mean like kneeling in protest?
Yes, exactly like that. Do you think it’s okay for private companies to ban that, too?
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> So, yeah, a transphobic blog, blogging about a transphobic book. But you left all that out of your OP. Let’s all take a moment to meditate on that choice.
If you think telling the truth is transphobic, sure. 🤷♀️
We used to say reality had a liberal bias. These days, reality is a hate crime.
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### Author:  [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2021, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closing-threads-again/937267/13 "2021-03-05T14:58:37Z")
> [@DemonTree](#):
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> If you think telling the truth is transphobic, sure. 🤷♀️
And there we go. Mods, again, this is something that’s far past becoming an issue with DemonTree.
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### Author:  [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2021, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closing-threads-again/937267/14 "2021-03-05T15:01:44Z")
The UK high court agrees about the too-easy availability of medical transition for children. Should I be able to mention that court decision on this forum or would you like that brushed under the rug too?
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### Author:  [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2021, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closing-threads-again/937267/15 "2021-03-05T15:02:26Z")
One thing that is telling is that, without the specifics, your thread is just the same thread you’ve made several times before. So obviously the specifics matter to you.
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### Author:  [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2021, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closing-threads-again/937267/16 "2021-03-05T15:04:54Z")
And two of the doctors who originally came up with the ‘Dutch protocol’ are advising caution. They agree with some of what Shrier is saying.
Not that that ought to matter, because it’s nothing to do with Amazon banning books.
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### Author:  [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2021, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closing-threads-again/937267/17 "2021-03-05T15:05:56Z")
> [@BigT](#):
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> One thing that is telling is that, without the specifics, your thread is just the same thread you’ve made several times before. So obviously the specifics matter to you.
The fact that it keeps happening and it’s getting worse matters to me. When you start banning books, you are on the wrong side of history, 100%.
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### Author:  [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2021, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closing-threads-again/937267/18 "2021-03-05T15:06:17Z")
I have zero interest in relitigating this issue in ATMB.
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### Author:  [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2021, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closing-threads-again/937267/19 "2021-03-05T15:06:58Z")
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### Author:  [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2021, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closing-threads-again/937267/20 "2021-03-05T15:09:29Z")
@DemonTree , if you want your thread re-opened and sent to the Pit, send @What_Exit a PM and let him know that this is what you want.
As for the rest of this, ATMB is not the forum to rehash issues from threads in other forums. This is closed.