# Clothahump and his Ignore List

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothahump-and-his-ignore-list/792363>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [July 29, 2017, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothahump-and-his-ignore-list/792363 "2017-07-29T03:39:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2017, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothahump-and-his-ignore-list/792363/41 "2017-07-29T21:09:32Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> I gotta admit that this is one of the funnier threads I’ve read. No one seems to worry about anyone else’s ignore list…just mine. I suppose I should be honored by the attention. 😃

Someone’s forgetting brazil84.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2017, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothahump-and-his-ignore-list/792363/42 "2017-07-29T21:12:19Z")

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If he misses an answer in GQ, that’s his own fault for not clicking to read it.

I have had people on ignore who I whose posts I’ll read, except in contentious threads where I know they’ll be a jerk and I’ll get pissed at them.

The ignore list is more a reminder that gives you an extra click before reading someone’s posts. It doesn’t isolate you unless you let it.

Of course, it sounds like Clothahump lets it, but that’s his own choice.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2017, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothahump-and-his-ignore-list/792363/43 "2017-07-29T21:16:14Z")

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Clothy: no one else makes as big deal out of their ignore list as you do. And no one else seems to use it as an excuse to ignore arguments they don’t like.

Well, except brazil84, who did the exact same thing. And basically got chased away.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2017, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothahump-and-his-ignore-list/792363/44 "2017-07-29T21:16:40Z")

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Honestly I continue to be astounded at his continued presence.

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2017, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothahump-and-his-ignore-list/792363/45 "2017-07-29T21:50:42Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> That’s because you yourself make such a big deal of it, and from what you’ve said you have a particularly large one.

So now its all about size, is it? :dubious: 😛

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2017, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothahump-and-his-ignore-list/792363/46 "2017-07-29T22:41:50Z")

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> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> So now its all about size, is it? :dubious: 😛

I’ll ignore that.😉

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2017, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothahump-and-his-ignore-list/792363/47 "2017-07-29T23:54:47Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Yeah, but then why did you ask if it was a problem for a poster to post only monologues? If it’s s a problem, then there should be a rule against it. If you don’t want a rule against it, then why would you think it might be a problem?

Sorry, I’ve been out all day at a location where I couldn’t post. I wasn’t ignoring you 🙂

Actually, there probably is no satisfactory answer. I agree with the consensus the poster in question is entitled to use his ignore list any way he likes that fits within the existing rules, and I likewise agree that no one is obligated to respond to any particular post if one doesn’t want to.

I’m only contemplating that the system sort of breaks down when a poster gets so incensed at certain other posters that his ignore list carries over from the Pit to other fora. OTOH, since I’ve never used the ignore function, I’ve only now become aware that one apparently can display ignored posts if one wants to, so ignorance fought there.

I would hope that **Clothahump** would not hold such a grudge as to ignore everyone who pisses him off in the Pit, outside of the Pit, but in the end it’s his choice and I guess I have nothing to say about it. I’ll leave it there.

Er, except for this:

> [@Clothahump](#):
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> I gotta admit that this is one of the funnier threads I’ve read. No one seems to worry about anyone else’s ignore list…just mine. I suppose I should be honored by the attention.

Yes, you should. Seriously, think about that for a bit. Do you see a general call for your banning here? As much as you irritate certain posters (I’ll wager at least as much as you are irritated by them) I believe most people here are looking for a good-faith discussion. You could easily argue your points in the appropriate forums and never have to face another insult, but instead you choose to spend the bulk of your time mixing it up in the Pit. I therefore see no reason why you should be upset by people playing according to Pit rules, which are as well known to you as to anyone else.

Of course, unless you deign to respond, I have no idea whether you are actually seeing this post. Cheers.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothahump-and-his-ignore-list/792363/48 "2017-07-30T00:32:06Z")

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Inasmuch as people want him banned, it’s because he’s admitted to trolling, rather than trying to engage honestly. Every single person who has said anything about him getting punished, it has been for what he does.

This is a recurring theme I’m seeing a lot lately. People who only engage in a hostile manner are getting all bent out of shape because people don’t treat them the same as others. It happens with the alt-right, who had always engaged in a trolling manner up to this point. Now that people are turning against them, suddenly these people are being unfair. Now that they are facing things they don’t want to hear, it’s not censorship but decorum. But, when we talked about decorum before, that was censorship.

And I’m not saying that **Clothahump** is alt-right. I don’t really know. I’m just noting the pattern being used. If you say you’re just engaging to try and piss people off, then you can’t demand that others engage you in a non-hostile manner. The best you can hope for is that people refuse to engage you.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothahump-and-his-ignore-list/792363/49 "2017-07-30T00:33:42Z")

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How do I know if I’m on someone’s ignore list? AIUI posters aren’t supposed to actually tell someone they’re being put on the list. Would I get a PM? Would a mod come to my home with a telegram from the War Department?

Is this why my threads get so few responses?

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothahump-and-his-ignore-list/792363/50 "2017-07-30T00:47:11Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> That’s because you yourself make such a big deal of it, and from what you’ve said you have a particularly large one.

I personally haven’t mentioned it in quite a while. The people mentioning it are begging others to quote their snark so that I’ll see it because they know I won’t see the original post. It’s a shame that the software isn’t smart enough to block quotes from blocked people.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothahump-and-his-ignore-list/792363/51 "2017-07-30T00:50:50Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I can’t say that I interact with him much, if at all, but I didn’t read his post that way. **He isn’t looking for people to agree with him, just to be agreeable when interacting.** Deserving or not, you take a lot of abuse if you are a conservative posting on this MB. Some get more than others, but they all get more than their fair share.

DingDingDing! We have a winner. Thank you, John.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothahump-and-his-ignore-list/792363/52 "2017-07-30T00:54:36Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> I personally haven’t mentioned it in quite a while. The people mentioning it are begging others to quote their snark so that I’ll see it because they know I won’t see the original post. It’s a shame that the software isn’t smart enough to block quotes from blocked people.

Someone willing to help a brother out here? Post #47.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothahump-and-his-ignore-list/792363/53 "2017-07-30T00:54:57Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> DingDingDing! We have a winner. Thank you, John.

You could try staying out of the Pit.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothahump-and-his-ignore-list/792363/54 "2017-07-30T01:04:27Z")

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All in all I don’t find it much different from the people who ask a question and then proceed to ignore every answer they get, because they’re demanding a specific answer and not getting it. It can be frustrating to look over several pages of really good advice, or really good answers, and see that either the OP has never returned to the thread, or worse, they’re shooting everyone down without returning anything productive to the thread. After a while, people need to stop trying.

And honestly, in the latter case, I’d like to see the mods step in about the middle of page 3 and shut the thread down if someone is being a dick to everyone who responds to them, rejecting every bit of advice and not providing concrete information or productive interaction.

In Clothahump’s case, he thinks far too many people on this board are idiots, because like the example above, we’re not giving him the answers he wants to hear and we’re not aligned with his personal philosophy. So really, it comes down to other posters deciding whether or not attempting to engage him is worth your time.

This last week I blocked someone on Facebook for being an abusive asshole. Another person immediately started posting a bunch of memes about how you’re ‘weak’ or you’re letting the other person win by blocking them. I joked that the meme guy was still on the sidewalk arguing with the homeless guy about how lizard people are running the government, because to walk away would be ‘weak’ and let him win.

You don’t ‘win’ anything by continuing to engage abusive or unpleasant people, you only lose your time and cause yourself distress. If you find ANY poster on this board to be like that, you’re not a ‘better person’ for being a martyr and/or pounding your head against a wall.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothahump-and-his-ignore-list/792363/55 "2017-07-30T01:25:45Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> All in all I don’t find it much different from the people who ask a question and then proceed to ignore every answer they get, because they’re demanding a specific answer and not getting it. It can be frustrating to look over several pages of really good advice, or really good answers, and see that either the OP has never returned to the thread, or worse, they’re shooting everyone down without returning anything productive to the thread. After a while, people need to stop trying.
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> And honestly, in the latter case, I’d like to see the mods step in about the middle of page 3 and shut the thread down if someone is being a dick to everyone who responds to them, rejecting every bit of advice and not providing concrete information or productive interaction.

If the dick in question is the OP, I’ve seen the mods do this quite a few times. I’d be surprised if there were many threads where that happened, that were reported to the mods, and did not get closed or the OP warned.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothahump-and-his-ignore-list/792363/56 "2017-07-30T01:36:18Z")

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If I’m reading this right, the problem is about putting lots of people on your ignore list because you don’t like the way they treat you in the Pit – but then those people are on your ignore list is all of the other forums too. (Yeah, I did that. Wrote the plural of “forum” as “forums”.)

We need a way to have a forum-specific ignore list, so our dear **Clothy** can put the whole board on his ignore list _but only for threads in the Pit_. I kinda-sorta accomplished that myself simply by not going to the Pit (much).

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothahump-and-his-ignore-list/792363/57 "2017-07-30T01:42:44Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> How do I know if I’m on someone’s ignore list? AIUI posters aren’t supposed to actually tell someone they’re being put on the list. Would I get a PM? Would a mod come to my home with a telegram from the War Department?

Ignore lists are silent, so other than the user not seeming to pay any attention to what you are posting, you really wouldn’t know.

And yes, you are not supposed to tell anyone that they are on your list, outside of the Pit. Here is the rule from the FAQ:

[QUOTE=SDMB FAQ]  
**Ignore list** - After much deliberation, we decided to keep the ignore list (and buddy list) available to members. Part of the reason we were hesitant is because we didn’t want to see flame wars caused by PosterX telling PosterY “you can say whatever you want to me, I don’t care because you’re on my ignore list.”

Hinting that any particular person or group of people is on your ignore list is very strictly frowned upon. **Revealing the usernames of people on your ignore list is forbidden at this board outside of the forum called _BBQ Pit_**

**Buddy Lists** - Basically, the same rules apply. Try to be discreet about who’s on your buddy list, and don’t use it as a tool to irritate / hurt the feelings of other members.

For the curious: there is no way to tell (for example in your options screen) if you are on someone’s ignore or buddy list.  
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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> We need a way to have a forum-specific ignore list, so our dear **Clothy** can put the whole board on his ignore list _but only for threads in the Pit_. I kinda-sorta accomplished that myself simply by not going to the Pit (much).

I don’t think that’s possible with our board software.

I personally avoid a whole bunch of problems by pretty much never going into the Pit. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothahump-and-his-ignore-list/792363/58 "2017-07-30T01:47:48Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> If I’m reading this right, the problem is about putting lots of people on your ignore list because you don’t like the way they treat you in the Pit – but then those people are on your ignore list is all of the other forums too. (Yeah, I did that. Wrote the plural of “forum” as “forums”.)…

Hey, this is English. The plural of “forum” IS “forums.”

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothahump-and-his-ignore-list/792363/59 "2017-07-30T01:51:38Z")

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> [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](#):
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> Hey, this is English. The plural of “forum” IS “forums.”

It’s not “forumses”?

😉

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothahump-and-his-ignore-list/792363/60 "2017-07-30T02:01:30Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> It’s not “forumses”?

Only if you say it out loud in a Gollum voice.

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