# Clothes suck

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothes-suck/668890>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 15, 2013, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothes-suck/668890 "2013-09-15T04:39:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gateway](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/dbc845/32.png) [@Gateway](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gateway)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2013, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothes-suck/668890/1 "2013-09-15T04:39:03Z")

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They have practical uses but I don’t think 1 should b forced 2 wear them if we value freedom and b/c nakedness doesn’t hurt NE1. The more have to’s you have the less free u r. Plus too often we see the clothose and not the person. A crowd would prolly do something if they see some random guy hit a woman, but not in a badge n uniform. I think they make us mispercieve what ppl really are and we disconnect from the physical side of ourselves. This might b a huge reason y ppl r uncomfortable with their bodies, what is the hidden message if you only feel comfortable when others cant see your real physical form? Clothes keep you warm but can make you believe the illusion.

Live the dream: go streaking.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2013, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothes-suck/668890/2 "2013-09-15T04:39:56Z")

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Live the dream:use full words.

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**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2013, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothes-suck/668890/3 "2013-09-15T04:56:04Z")

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let it all hang out.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2013, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothes-suck/668890/4 "2013-09-15T06:08:54Z")

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Hey, I’m all for going nekkid when possible, but this is the wrong time of year to be preaching the joys of nudity for most people. The weather is starting to cool down for the northern hemisphere, and there’s not that much time to change the social mores this year.

Try again next year.

Oh, and nakedness causes [invisibility](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0025.html), just so you know. And nobody will want to [touch you](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0027.html), either.

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**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2013, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothes-suck/668890/5 "2013-09-15T16:54:05Z")

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So you’re ok with spelling “mispercieve” (sic) but “anyone” was just too damn long to manage?

I don’t disagree with promoting nudity, but I think that what you’re seeing (based on your example) is more a problem with humans and our need for symbols and representations of ideas, rather than a problem with clothes specifically.

Also note that I managed to write all of those words out in full. 😃

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2013, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothes-suck/668890/6 "2013-09-15T17:25:30Z")

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The problem is that, in general, the people who want to go naked are exactly the ones whom no one else wants to see naked. So if your naked body is fit and attractive, I say go for it. Otherwise, spare the rest of us.

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**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2013, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothes-suck/668890/7 "2013-09-15T17:38:42Z")

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You have the right to control your own environment, which is your home, so go naked there. You don’t have the right to control everyone else’s environment, which is everywhere else, so don’t go naked there. Simple.

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**Author:** ![Sahirrnee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sahirrnee/32/13937_2.png) [@Sahirrnee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sahirrnee)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2013, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothes-suck/668890/8 "2013-09-15T17:55:16Z")

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I’d love to run nekkid or naked  
except I am now at an age and weight where it’s a public service for me to keep my clothes on.

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**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2013, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothes-suck/668890/9 "2013-09-15T17:57:56Z")

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Where would you put your keys?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2013, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothes-suck/668890/10 "2013-09-15T18:00:31Z")

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> [@Fubaya](#):
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> Where would you put your keys?

Fanny pack. 😃

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2013, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothes-suck/668890/11 "2013-09-15T18:23:13Z")

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For those of you struggling to understand the OP, since it is not the King’s English, here is a translation guide.

```auto

ORIGINAL = MEANING
-------- -------
1 = one
b = be
2 = to or two
b/c = because
NE1 = anyone
have to's = "have to"s, i.e., requirements
u = you
r = are
clothose = clothes, or stockings to prevent blood from pooling
prolly = probably
n = in
mispercieve = misperceive
ppl = people
y = why
cant = can't

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2013, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothes-suck/668890/12 "2013-09-15T18:27:32Z")

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Id-10-t

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2013, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothes-suck/668890/13 "2013-09-15T19:03:19Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> The problem is that, in general, the people who want to go naked are exactly the ones whom no one else wants to see naked. So if your naked body is fit and attractive, I say go for it. Otherwise, spare the rest of us.

Are you talking to me?

> [@Alice\_The\_Goon](#):
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> You have the right to control your own environment, which is your home, so go naked there. You don’t have the right to control everyone else’s environment, which is everywhere else, so don’t go naked there. Simple.

Are YOU talking to me?

> [@sahirrnee](#):
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> I’d love to run nekkid or naked  
> except I am now at an age and weight where it’s a public service for me to keep my clothes on.

Oh, they’re talking to YOU.

> [@Fubaya](#):
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> Where would you put your keys?

I keep just about everything in my purse. I do put a bandana in my pocket when I go out. The bandana is carefully color-coordinated with my outfit.

And actually, I do wear clothes when I go outside my house. This is because I am allergic to being arrested.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2013, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothes-suck/668890/14 "2013-09-15T19:06:45Z")

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> [@Musicat](#):
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> For those of you struggling to understand the OP, since it is not the King’s English, here is a translation guide.
> 
> ```auto
> 
> ORIGINAL = MEANING
> -------- -------
> 1 = one
> b = be
> 2 = to or two
> b/c = because
> NE1 = anyone
> have to's = "have to"s, i.e., requirements
> u = you
> r = are
> clothose = clothes, or stockings to prevent blood from pooling
> prolly = probably
> n = in
> mispercieve = misperceive
> ppl = people
> y = why
> cant = can't
> 
> ```

Ooh! Can you do CB slang, too? Because there’s parts of Smokey and the Bandit that I’m not fully getting. For example, 10-4: I just can’t figure out what word that is. And “motion lotion,” is that some kind of personal lubricant? And if so, what does it say about Jerry Reed that he has to stop and get more like every 20 minutes in the movie?

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2013, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothes-suck/668890/15 "2013-09-15T19:24:42Z")

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For those of you who don’t visit the Pit, the OP [has taken all of his criticism to heart and agreed to use proper English in the future.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16667675&postcount=31)

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2013, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothes-suck/668890/16 "2013-09-15T19:47:54Z")

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> [@Fubaya](#):
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> Where would you put your keys?

“None of yer damn business, Max!”

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2013, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothes-suck/668890/17 "2013-09-15T19:52:44Z")

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When people argue that the government can’t force you to purchase something (like Insurance, under Obamacare), I always point out that the government has always been able to force you to purchase clothing.

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**Author:** ![InternetLegend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/internetlegend/32/13154_2.png) [@InternetLegend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InternetLegend)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2013, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothes-suck/668890/18 "2013-09-15T20:03:09Z")

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Since you’ve expressed a willingness to communicate in standard English, I’m willing to let you go naked if you want. Seeing naked people bothers me way less than trying to read txtspeak does.

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2013, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothes-suck/668890/19 "2013-09-15T20:09:13Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Ooh! Can you do CB slang, too? Because there’s parts of Smokey and the Bandit that I’m not fully getting. For example, 10-4: I just can’t figure out what word that is. And “motion lotion,” is that some kind of personal lubricant? And if so, what does it say about Jerry Reed that he has to stop and get more like every 20 minutes in the movie?

Sure, that’s easy.

10-4 = beer  
motion lotion = beer, good buddy  
what Jerry Reed has to stop for = more beer  
Bandit = beer belly

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**Author:** ![Sahirrnee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sahirrnee/32/13937_2.png) [@Sahirrnee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sahirrnee)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2013, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothes-suck/668890/20 "2013-09-15T21:02:42Z")

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> [@Fubaya](#):
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> Where would you put your keys?

I failed the pencil test years ago, keys would be no problem.

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