# Clueless Management

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-management/543307>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 15, 2010, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-management/543307 "2010-06-15T16:30:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bookkeeper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bookkeeper/32/281_2.png) [@Bookkeeper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bookkeeper)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-management/543307/1 "2010-06-15T16:30:25Z")

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It’s National Public Service Week here in Canada, and our Public Service bosses are showing their appreciation of the employees in my department by offering us the opportunity to stand in line to buy a cheap hamburger or hot dog lunch. Thanks a lot, boss! :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![campp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@campp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/campp)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-management/543307/2 "2010-06-15T16:40:00Z")

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I once got an discount oil change coupon for Christmas. _A coupon._

I wanted so bad to just stick it up his ass.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-management/543307/3 "2010-06-15T16:57:13Z")

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I’m not sure I see the problem.

Your boss wanted to show his appreciation for the week by allowing you to publicly service a hot dog.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Happy\_Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Poster)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-management/543307/4 "2010-06-15T16:59:50Z")

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Well since the public sector has no reason to deliver value for money, why on earth should you expect competent management? Without the profit motive it is inevitable the top managers will be those who are good at getting promoted for tick-box reasons.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-management/543307/5 "2010-06-15T17:22:48Z")

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> [@Happy\_Poster](#):
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> Well since the public sector has no reason to deliver value for money, why on earth should you expect competent management? Without the profit motive it is inevitable the top managers will be those who are good at getting promoted for tick-box reasons.

I haven’t noticed managers in for-profit enterprises being noticeably better. Institutional dysfunctions are the same all over.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Happy\_Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Poster)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-management/543307/6 "2010-06-15T17:33:11Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> I haven’t noticed managers in for-profit enterprises being noticeably better. Institutional dysfunctions are the same all over.

Tends to me related to size mate.

But I don’t give a shit about incompetent private institutions. Public ones that make me throw a few million at them every year, and the same for yourselves (just gonnna assume you’re a yank) - they annoy me.

Amusingly some former McKinsey MD told me similar. I want mdsmith or whatever his name is to come out and defend consultancy. My major enemy is management consultancy and I have anacdote after anacedote to throw at him. That’s who I wish to smash in the face.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Happy\_Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Poster)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-management/543307/7 "2010-06-15T17:35:24Z")

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Seriously, I can anectote the fuck out of him. I think he currently works for one of the big 4 (which is not quite the right term to use in consultancy but tis his) and if he tells me which one I’ll fucking tear the shit out of him.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Happy\_Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Poster)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-management/543307/8 "2010-06-15T17:40:42Z")

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(I reckon he made VP at best, maybe at booz masturbate or something. I’m gonna fucking show these fucking consultancy shits)

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Happy\_Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Poster)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-management/543307/9 "2010-06-15T17:42:26Z")

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That fag after all fucking said boutique = shit, where the fuck those motherfucking bulge brackets done? cunt. I started a local, I raped the shit out of boutiques and bbs, and now I’m a fucking local again. Fuck loads more money than any reasonable person could ever want. Fuck you mr smith.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Happy\_Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Poster)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-management/543307/10 "2010-06-15T17:43:36Z")

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Fucking cuny.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Happy\_Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Poster)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-management/543307/11 "2010-06-15T17:44:52Z")

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in american parlanmce:

**COCKSUCKER**

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-management/543307/12 "2010-06-15T17:55:44Z")

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Hey there **Happy Poster.** Maybe the OJ and Vodka this early in the morning was a poor choice. Just sayin’

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-management/543307/13 "2010-06-15T18:03:48Z")

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jO 7 vodak is never a poro choic.

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**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-management/543307/14 "2010-06-15T18:36:05Z")

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> [@Happy\_Poster](#):
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> T Fuck you mr smith.

> [@Happy\_Poster](#):
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> in american parlanmce:
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> **COCKSUCKER**

I believe you are directing these at another poster. If that’s the case. I must remind you:

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> **[Restricted language in the Pit](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508858)**
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If not, I encourage you to wait until you are sober before you resume posting. No warning issue.

**Gfactor**  
Pit Moderator

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-management/543307/15 "2010-06-15T18:49:58Z")

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BRB, getting popcorn while I wait to see if this hilarious trainwreck continues.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-management/543307/16 "2010-06-15T19:14:34Z")

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I am so glad I stumbled into this thread early. I’ve never seen a pit thread turned so completely into calling out another poster.

For the record I’m betting on the more sober of the two.

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**Author:** ![Faruiza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecd19e/32.png) [@Faruiza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Faruiza)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-management/543307/17 "2010-06-15T19:44:29Z")

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I want so much to understand what just happened there.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-management/543307/18 "2010-06-15T19:46:23Z")

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Wow, it looks like the troll gave up on being patient.

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**Author:** ![Faruiza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecd19e/32.png) [@Faruiza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Faruiza)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-management/543307/19 "2010-06-15T20:16:00Z")

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Is THAT what happens to trolls when we don’t bait them quickly enough? They go supernova?

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-management/543307/20 "2010-06-15T20:35:02Z")

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The SDMB. Where you “anectote the fuck” out of people all day long.

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