# Clueless, Snob, or Metrosexual?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-snob-or-metrosexual/282774>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 3, 2005, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-snob-or-metrosexual/282774 "2005-01-03T02:17:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bambi\_Hassenpfeffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Bambi\_Hassenpfeffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bambi_Hassenpfeffer)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2005, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-snob-or-metrosexual/282774/21 "2005-01-03T22:56:06Z")

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> [@chaoticdonkey](#):
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> What about men, then?
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> [breathy voice] **Gobear** \*, **Bambi Hassenpfeffer** \*, and **swampbear** \*, what do you have on? [/voice]
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> \*3 guys that I’m shamelessly stalking 😉 ;j

For my part I have a Polo Jeans Co t-shirt and a pair of Docker shorts on. But I got them at an outlet, so they don’t really count. My daily wear is almost exclusively Old Navy and Polo, but always on sale. The wallet of my college-student retail job self doesn’t support much else.

I’m like **TLD** , it seems. I can dress myself up, but I usually choose not to. Who’m I trying to impress? I’m not really trying to pick up someone who focuses on my clothing, when there’s so much more to me. I’m not saying I wear paint-covered jeans with holes in them, but if someone looking at me is too good for my $30 Old Navy carpenter jeans, then I’d not be interested anyway.

A _stalker_! I’m so excited. 😉

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**Author:** ![jimpatro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9e5f3/32.png) [@jimpatro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimpatro)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2005, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-snob-or-metrosexual/282774/22 "2005-01-03T23:41:15Z")

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Originally posted by iampunha

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> But see, not every guy/man likes the same thing, just as not every girl/woman does. How do you know what sort of personality he’s going for? Maybe he wants someone who’s comfortable in the same stuff he likes

Point well taken. It is about comfort after all. I just often run into couples and the woman will chastise her partner for never dressing up like jimpatro.

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**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2005, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-snob-or-metrosexual/282774/23 "2005-01-04T00:03:46Z")

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I wear nice name brand clothes because they’re better clothes, usually. I’m talking about the more established brands, not those awful fads, and the ones that plaster their brandname all over the outside is just tacky. (side note: the other day in the mall, I saw them selling Member’s Only jackets in one of those urban shitwear stores. I wanted to torch the place!

Anyway, you don’t have to be a metrosexual to appreciate quality, and you don’t have to be a neanderthal to think that fashion is, by and large, rather ridiculous.

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**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2005, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-snob-or-metrosexual/282774/24 "2005-01-04T02:38:14Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Cluless, Snob or Metrosexual?

How about “marketer’s dream”?

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**Author:** ![chaoticbear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f07891/32.png) [@chaoticbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chaoticbear)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2005, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-snob-or-metrosexual/282774/25 "2005-01-05T02:28:56Z")

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> [@iampunha](#):
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> And you’re **complaining** about getting a piece of ass?😉
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> [sub]How long did it take you to find the damn asterisk key, boy? Was it obscured from view?;)[/sub]

It was mainly the coding. Like bold.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2005, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-snob-or-metrosexual/282774/26 "2005-01-05T02:40:14Z")

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> [@chaoticdonkey](#):
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> It was mainly the coding. Like bold.

Took you three minutes to type out three sets of bold tags?😉

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**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2005, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-snob-or-metrosexual/282774/27 "2005-01-05T02:50:09Z")

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> [@Xema](#):
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> How about “marketer’s dream”?

Perfect.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2005, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-snob-or-metrosexual/282774/28 "2005-01-05T06:44:12Z")

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> [@roger thornhill](#):
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> Perfect.

Did you guys miss the part about rarely paying full price? How is that a marketer’s dream? Sure, I prefer (what I consider) nice stuff, but I don’t think they make a bunch of money off of me. More than from many guys, sure, but not substantially more.

I may be a snob, but I’m a cheap snob. 🙂

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**Author:** ![chaoticbear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f07891/32.png) [@chaoticbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chaoticbear)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2005, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-snob-or-metrosexual/282774/29 "2005-01-05T18:46:20Z")

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> [@iampunha](#):
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> Took you three minutes to type out three sets of bold tags?😉

Hey! Those square brackets aren’t a key I hit often.

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**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2005, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-snob-or-metrosexual/282774/30 "2005-01-05T19:28:54Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> Did you guys miss the part about rarely paying full price? How is that a marketer’s dream?

They’d probably be happier if you were besieging the stores and paying well above list price. But as long as you’re consuming what they are producing (and displaying the labels, to the envy of others) I suspect they are still smiling all the way to the bank.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2005, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-snob-or-metrosexual/282774/31 "2005-01-05T19:38:13Z")

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Read again. The labels of most of these items don’t show when you’re wearing them.

The other point is a good one.

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**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2005, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-snob-or-metrosexual/282774/32 "2005-01-05T19:58:48Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> The labels of most of these items don’t show when you’re wearing them.

Okay. But I’ll wager that potential buyers can often tell what the brand is. Not many manufacturers of designer items are at pains to make their wares look indistinguisable from others’.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2005, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-snob-or-metrosexual/282774/33 "2005-01-05T20:08:44Z")

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Excellent point, **Xema**. I _do_ recognise the cut/style/intangibles of certain brands/designers when I see them on other people.

In a way, I guess I have to admit to some snobbery then. Even in the very starting of a thread of this nature.  
Today, I’m in jeans and a lumberjack shirt. Comfy. But, I bet if I looked, I would find a brand name label. O the misery of being me. 😉 \<— that’s a winky smiley.  
Thanks for all the replies, y’all. I found it interesting.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2005, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-snob-or-metrosexual/282774/34 "2005-01-05T21:26:33Z")

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I don’t really see the whole “marketer’s dream” or “laughing all the way to the bank” (Implying that **NCB** is some sort of sucker) thing. Just 'cause NCB appreciates quality and is willing to pay a little more for it doesn’t make him a sucker. That’s just Capitalism.

I wear cheap clothes, but I like quality in other things. I’ll always buy Stella Artois or Pilsner Urquell when I can afford it. It’s simply demonstrably better than Busch or Milwaukee’s Beast. If The importers make a little money off me, I’m happy for them; They’re selling me a quality product at a fair price.

Be into what you’re into. As long as you don’t think your clothes make you superior, there’s no problem.

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**Author:** ![Jennyrosity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@Jennyrosity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennyrosity)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2005, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-snob-or-metrosexual/282774/35 "2005-01-05T21:35:37Z")

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All sounds fine to me. But I’m very into clothes - not fashion, necessarily, but good, stylish clothing.

If only my boyfriend would let me dress him, he’d look a lot better for it. Who said boys were more fun than Action Men?!

_That’s GI Joes to the Merkins._

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**Author:** ![Ol\_Gaffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Ol\_Gaffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ol_Gaffer)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2005, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-snob-or-metrosexual/282774/36 "2005-01-05T22:04:24Z")

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I could care less about my “regular” clothes (i.e. stuff I wear when I work in the office) but I’m fairly particular about my outdoor gear (especially boots) as I work outside most of the time.

That being said, I must salute your impeccable taste in power tools.

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**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2005, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-snob-or-metrosexual/282774/37 "2005-01-05T22:29:07Z")

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> [@Larry Borgia](#):
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> Just 'cause NCB appreciates quality and is willing to pay a little more for it doesn’t make him a sucker.

I don’t wish to imply that I think NCB is a sucker. Fashion has a long and enduring history - it’s obviously closely tied to human nature. People put real value on owning - and being seen to own - what is _au courant_. Though this probably isn’t the noblest human trait anyone could name, it would be churlish and unrealistic to condemn it.

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**Author:** ![buttonjockey308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2005, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-snob-or-metrosexual/282774/38 "2005-01-05T22:39:03Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Clueless, Snob, or Metrosexual?

Yes.

Ha! I kid, I kid…no, really…

Yes.

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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2005, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-snob-or-metrosexual/282774/39 "2005-01-05T22:43:26Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> As a side note: Who wants to go in a bracket on how long til **Alice in Wonderland** finds this thread? 🙂

Three days - I’ve been on vacation.

Ahem, as to my opinion. I think you’re a person who likes a certain quality of garment, and chooses to spend your money on those garments. No more, no less. Nothing wrong with that. Some people have massive CD collections. Some people have $25,000 home theatre set ups. Some people give all their money to the “Overweight Ballerina Benevolent Fund”. Some people have a really, really fabulous wardrobe.

And, I must add that I think you look _SPIFFY DAAAAHLING!!_ 😉

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**Author:** ![jimpatro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9e5f3/32.png) [@jimpatro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimpatro)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2005, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clueless-snob-or-metrosexual/282774/40 "2005-01-05T23:59:48Z")

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**NoClueBoy** , no need to feel snobbish for spotting great clothes. You just know them when you see them and that’s that. And I don’t care who knows I’m wearing Donna Karan. Most don’t. But they will think “You know, there is something special about that blazer…hmmm.”

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