# CNN Breaking News: Propagandist bullshit

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-breaking-news-propagandist-bullshit/529540>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 18, 2010, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-breaking-news-propagandist-bullshit/529540 "2010-02-18T21:53:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-breaking-news-propagandist-bullshit/529540/41 "2010-02-19T16:17:04Z")

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**Winston Smith** : your ideas are fucking retarded.

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> Bush 43 pulled this shit in Iraq, and now Obama’s setting the stage to pull the same stunt in Iran, except he’s using the American news media as his shill instead of the FBI (or CIA) like Bush did.

I’ll offer you 8 to 1 odds on a $100 bet that Obama doesn’t attack Iran within the next year. If I win, you give me $100. If you win, I give you $800. If you don’t take the bet, you’re a coward.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-breaking-news-propagandist-bullshit/529540/42 "2010-02-19T16:39:57Z")

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Winston, it’s true that the type of “reporting” you’re railing against is a real problem. You just chose a bad example to illustrate your ire.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-breaking-news-propagandist-bullshit/529540/43 "2010-02-19T17:41:06Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> **Winston Smith** : your ideas are fucking retarded.
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> I’ll offer you 8 to 1 odds on a $100 bet that Obama doesn’t attack Iran within the next year. If I win, you give me $100. If you win, I give you $800. If you don’t take the bet, you’re a coward.

I might consider taking that bet if “attack” includes a small scale bombing campaign- say, a single airstrike.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-breaking-news-propagandist-bullshit/529540/44 "2010-02-19T17:52:32Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> I might consider taking that bet if “attack” includes a small scale bombing campaign- say, a single airstrike.

Sure, any intentional, overt attack on Iran by the US.

That would exclude things like [this](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655) that were apparently accidental; or covert things where responsibility is a matter of speculation, not fact.

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**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-breaking-news-propagandist-bullshit/529540/45 "2010-02-19T20:39:22Z")

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Since when does IKEA go around reporting on Iran? Shouldn’t they be making cheap furniture or something?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-breaking-news-propagandist-bullshit/529540/46 "2010-02-19T20:58:33Z")

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If Ikea sold Iran its first nuclear weapon, they would never be able to assemble it.

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-breaking-news-propagandist-bullshit/529540/47 "2010-02-20T00:35:38Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> **Winston Smith** : your ideas are fucking retarded.
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> I’ll offer you 8 to 1 odds on a $100 bet that Obama doesn’t attack Iran within the next year. If I win, you give me $100. If you win, I give you $800. If you don’t take the bet, you’re a coward.

Your angry words give me diarrhea. Please go away.

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-breaking-news-propagandist-bullshit/529540/48 "2010-02-20T00:37:50Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> Winston, it’s true that the type of “reporting” you’re railing against is a real problem. You just chose a bad example to illustrate your ire.

Ok. I can live with that.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-breaking-news-propagandist-bullshit/529540/49 "2010-02-20T15:49:40Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> If Ikea sold Iran its first nuclear weapon, they would never be able to assemble it.

They would have to table the entire plan?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-breaking-news-propagandist-bullshit/529540/50 "2010-02-20T19:14:36Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Obama is not in charge of the IAEA or CNN - and there is _zero_ probability that we will invade Iran in the next five years.
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> Perhaps it’s time to patch your tinfoil hat.

See, that’s where you’re wrong. It’s obvious that Obama is now taking political advice from:

Sarah Palin! :eek:

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**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-breaking-news-propagandist-bullshit/529540/51 "2010-02-20T19:16:01Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> They would have to table the entire plan?

Well, they’d have to clear it with the Chair, first.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-breaking-news-propagandist-bullshit/529540/52 "2010-02-21T04:56:55Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Iran may be building an army of giant robots with laser beams for eyes. I fail to see why no one seems at all concerned by this alarming development.

Umm, just where do you think they’ll be aiming those laser beam eyes?

[Okay, but AFTER Israel, they might aim at you…]

Look:  
a) Does anyone here trust Iran with giant robots?

b) Does anyone here believe Iran when they say that giant robots are “a fiction” that is “absurdly cliche”?

c) Are you willing to bet that Iran will use their giant robots merely to build mini-malls?

d) Do you believe them when they say that they’re at least a decade away from functioning laser beam eyes?

e) Have they promised you your very own giant robot to heat your pool?

If you answered “No” to two or more of the above questions, you’ll want to keep paying attention to serious news sources (as opposed to The Pit).

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-breaking-news-propagandist-bullshit/529540/53 "2010-02-21T17:05:26Z")

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> [@Winston\_Smith](#):
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> Your angry words give me diarrhea. Please go away.

There had to be some cause for the crap you’re spewing.

Sorry, everyone.

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