# CNN doesn't like the US 1st amendment

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-doesnt-like-the-us-1st-amendment/691392>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2014, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-doesnt-like-the-us-1st-amendment/691392 "2014-06-22T21:59:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-doesnt-like-the-us-1st-amendment/691392/41 "2014-06-23T03:51:18Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> The 1st amendment doesn’t compel CNN to post anyone’s comments. Why would you think that it does?

No newspaper was ever obliged by the 1st Amendment or anything else to print each and every letter to the editor.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-doesnt-like-the-us-1st-amendment/691392/42 "2014-06-23T03:52:41Z")

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> [@WWhiskey](#):
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> What amendment gave the people the right to vote?

None, [yet](http://www.fairvote.org/reforms/right-to-vote-amendment/).

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**Author:** ![emcee2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@emcee2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emcee2k)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-doesnt-like-the-us-1st-amendment/691392/43 "2014-06-23T03:56:57Z")

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> [@Phatzo](#):
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> OK I got the title wrong as CNN are a private corporation and I’m an Aussie and we don’t really know squat about the US constitution or Bill of Rights. But don’t you agree that removing the post seems to imply that they have their own dog in this somewhere?

It seems to imply that they want comments to be relevant to the article they’re posted on.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-doesnt-like-the-us-1st-amendment/691392/44 "2014-06-23T04:05:43Z")

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> [@WWhiskey](#):
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> A news agency that doesn’t allow different viewpoints from its constituents isn’t a news agency , it’s a propaganda device.

You know having free license to post almost anything you want on a news agency’s medium has only been a thing since about 2005, right? Before that, the only time you got viewpoints from the agency’s constituents (sic) was in letters to the editor, most of which were never printed.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-doesnt-like-the-us-1st-amendment/691392/45 "2014-06-23T04:17:30Z")

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> [@WWhiskey](#):
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> A news agency that doesn’t allow different viewpoints from its constituents isn’t a news agency , it’s a propaganda device.

An elected official has constituents. A news agency does not have constituents; it has customers, and it has stockholders.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-doesnt-like-the-us-1st-amendment/691392/46 "2014-06-23T12:05:18Z")

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Come and see the violence inherent in the system. Help! Help! I’m being repressed!

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-doesnt-like-the-us-1st-amendment/691392/47 "2014-06-23T12:27:55Z")

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> [@Mr\_No\_Name](#):
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> As for the OP, I don’t see a First Amendment issue because the server is privately owned but for the life of me, I can see nothing in the portion that he pasted that is disrespectful, or even partisan bloviating.
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> Actually I think it is a pretty astute observation when you are discussing it from a standpoint of principles.
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> Why have a discussion board if you don’t want **cogent** , respectful discussion?

Cogency DOES require relevance, you know.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-doesnt-like-the-us-1st-amendment/691392/48 "2014-06-23T13:20:20Z")

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> [@Phatzo](#):
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> OK I got the title wrong as CNN are a private corporation and I’m an Aussie and we don’t really know squat about the US constitution or Bill of Rights. But don’t you agree that removing the post seems to imply that they have their own dog in this somewhere?

Setting aside the apparent fact that you started this thread from a position of ignorance of its central topic, it seems impossible to you that the post may have been removed because it was wildly off-topic?

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-doesnt-like-the-us-1st-amendment/691392/49 "2014-06-23T13:32:12Z")

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> [@Phatzo](#):
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> OK I got the title wrong as CNN are a private corporation and I’m an Aussie and we don’t really know squat about the US constitution or Bill of Rights. But don’t you agree that removing the post seems to imply that they have their own dog in this somewhere?

Oh, no argument with that. CNN tilts so far left I’m surprised it hasn’t fallen over, so naturaaly they are totally anti-gun. A reasonable post like the one quoted was destined for the axe the second that the poster hit Send.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-doesnt-like-the-us-1st-amendment/691392/50 "2014-06-23T15:01:14Z")

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Finally, someone has started a thread to debate voter ID laws. It’s about damn time!!

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**Author:** ![OurLordPeace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e8c25b/32.png) [@OurLordPeace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OurLordPeace)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-doesnt-like-the-us-1st-amendment/691392/51 "2014-06-23T15:41:35Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Oh, no argument with that. CNN tilts so far left I’m surprised it hasn’t fallen over, so naturaaly they are totally anti-gun. A reasonable post like the one quoted was destined for the axe the second that the poster hit Send.

Far left? Seriously? The very post to which you are responding says that CNN is a private _corporation_. CNN is a massive corporate media entity, of, by, and for the interests of the upper classes. Just like **WWhiskey** , if you think CNN is “far left”, or even on the left at all, you have no idea what that term means.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-doesnt-like-the-us-1st-amendment/691392/52 "2014-06-23T15:47:21Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Oh, no argument with that. CNN tilts so far left I’m surprised it hasn’t fallen over, so naturaaly they are totally anti-gun. A reasonable post like the one quoted was destined for the axe the second that the poster hit Send.

The post in question wasn’t about guns at all. It was about voter ID. Just sayin’.

Also, to help us calibrate the **Clothahump** -o-meter, if you actually believe CNN to be “far left”, would you mind identifying a news outlet you consider to be moderately left?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-doesnt-like-the-us-1st-amendment/691392/53 "2014-06-23T15:47:32Z")

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> [@OurLordPeace](#):
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> Far left? Seriously? The very post to which you are responding says that CNN is a private _corporation_. CNN is a massive corporate media entity, of, by, and for the interests of the upper classes. Just like **WWhiskey** , if you think CNN is “far left”, or even on the left at all, you have no idea what that term means.

From **Clothy’s** perspective, _everything_ is far left. I’ll bet he even finds Fox News somewhat suspect.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-doesnt-like-the-us-1st-amendment/691392/54 "2014-06-23T15:49:13Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Finally, someone has started a thread to debate voter ID laws. It’s about damn time!!

Why the fuck can’t we have one thread about scientific racism without you trying to derail it with immigration reform?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-doesnt-like-the-us-1st-amendment/691392/55 "2014-06-23T15:51:12Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Oh, no argument with that. CNN tilts so far left I’m surprised it hasn’t fallen over, so naturaaly they are totally anti-gun. A reasonable post like the one quoted was destined for the axe the second that the poster hit Send.

Occasionally I forget that in the view of many on the right wing, the real world has a liberal bias.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-doesnt-like-the-us-1st-amendment/691392/56 "2014-06-23T16:38:19Z")

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> [@Phatzo](#):
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> OK I got the title wrong as CNN are a private corporation and I’m an Aussie and we don’t really know squat about the US constitution or Bill of Rights. But don’t you agree that removing the post seems to imply that they have their own dog in this somewhere?

Every private media outlet gets to have its own editorial policy. It may be CNN’s policy to edit out stupidity. The post in question is extremely stupid and adds nothing to the debate.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-doesnt-like-the-us-1st-amendment/691392/57 "2014-06-23T17:21:20Z")

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> [@WWhiskey](#):
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> The tenth amendment
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> The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
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> What amendment gave the people the right to vote?  
> Posting reasons why you can’t restrict the right to vote is not the same thing!

Why would you have to “post reasons why you can’t restrict the right to vote” if people didn’t have the right to vote in the first place?

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-doesnt-like-the-us-1st-amendment/691392/58 "2014-06-23T17:31:54Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Also, to help us calibrate the **Clothahump** -o-meter, if you actually believe CNN to be “far left”, would you mind identifying a news outlet you consider to be moderately left?

Burger King’s newsletter.

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**Author:** ![A\_nice\_guy\_with\_an\_opinion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/76d3ee/32.png) [@A\_nice\_guy\_with\_an\_opinion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_nice_guy_with_an_opinion)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-doesnt-like-the-us-1st-amendment/691392/59 "2014-06-23T18:30:12Z")

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Phatzo, I appreciate your admitted ignorance of this topic you brought up. Seeking the truth is why some of us are here. I feel like I fall into that category. You can learn a lot by the posts displayed on this board.

Seems most are really insightful and mean well, just like the fed we all should support. When you see an organization like CNN flush the untidy ideas that are far of center, you should applaud it. Things are getting out of hand here in America with those who can’t accept the fact that really smart people, with great intentions of changing our great nation, are being tied up by those who want to repress progress.

It’s not a simple issue. It is mostly repubs, and especially, the tea party, but the media is to blame as well.

I wish there were more outlets like CNN that are taking a stand against the ignorance that is building. What are we going to do when the roads start to crumble, the schools fail even more, all while the military gets stronger and great civilizations like Russia, Bermuda, and Iran build up because of the projection of force that is all show like peacocks?

I appreciate that you want opinions to move freely, but sometimes bad opinions must be crushed like an olive in boroda’s glass.

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**Author:** ![irae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f0a364/32.png) [@irae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irae)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-doesnt-like-the-us-1st-amendment/691392/60 "2014-06-23T18:33:44Z")

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> [@Phatzo](#):
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> OK I got the title wrong as CNN are a private corporation and I’m an Aussie and we don’t really know squat about the US constitution or Bill of Rights. But don’t you agree that removing the post seems to imply that they have their own dog in this somewhere?

The name of the dog is Relevance.

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