# CNN has a comprehensive article on spotting fake news. Can we make it a sticky?

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**Created:** [November 19, 2016, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-has-a-comprehensive-article-on-spotting-fake-news-can-we-make-it-a-sticky/772472 "2016-11-19T20:49:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-has-a-comprehensive-article-on-spotting-fake-news-can-we-make-it-a-sticky/772472/21 "2016-11-21T10:26:19Z")

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Why am I not surprised to see Mike Adams is behind Trump.

Fucking what.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-has-a-comprehensive-article-on-spotting-fake-news-can-we-make-it-a-sticky/772472/22 "2016-11-21T11:28:58Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> “Used to”? All you do here is post click bait OPs to Daily Mail articles. If you’ve gotten _better_ since joining the SDMB I shudder to think what you must have been like before.

That’s enough, there.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-has-a-comprehensive-article-on-spotting-fake-news-can-we-make-it-a-sticky/772472/23 "2016-11-21T13:09:42Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Fake news, misleading news, click bait what ever you call it is a problem. Obama even said it threatens democracy.  
> [https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/94045428/?client=ms-android-motorola](https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/94045428/?client=ms-android-motorola)
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> CNN put together a good article on recognizing fake news.

This is good for a laugh. CNN is one of the larger sources of fake news.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-has-a-comprehensive-article-on-spotting-fake-news-can-we-make-it-a-sticky/772472/24 "2016-11-28T02:59:22Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> This is good for a laugh. CNN is one of the larger sources of fake news.

Is this like a double negative. If someone (say a SDMB poster, lets call her _Humpasmurf_) who cannot tell fact from fiction tells you something is fiction, it is likely to be fact?

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-has-a-comprehensive-article-on-spotting-fake-news-can-we-make-it-a-sticky/772472/25 "2016-11-28T04:21:07Z")

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“News” corporations exist to make a profit. When they are openly advocating for particular candidates and parties why should they be trusted? Where is CNN’s credibility?

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-has-a-comprehensive-article-on-spotting-fake-news-can-we-make-it-a-sticky/772472/26 "2016-11-29T17:34:05Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> Is this like a double negative. If someone (say a SDMB poster, lets call her _Humpasmurf_) who cannot tell fact from fiction tells you something is fiction, it is likely to be fact?

It’s a shame we’re not in the Pit, where I could respond the way I would like.

Instead, I will content myself with slapping you across the face with The Wet Trout Of Reality ™:

[http://www.westernjournalism.com/cnns-cuomo-it-will-be-medias-job-to-act-as-trump-opposition/?utm\_source=Facebook&utm\_medium=THENewVoice&utm\_campaign=manualpost](http://www.westernjournalism.com/cnns-cuomo-it-will-be-medias-job-to-act-as-trump-opposition/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=THENewVoice&utm_campaign=manualpost)

Still think that CNN is a reliable source? It hasn’t been one for years, why would they start now?

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-has-a-comprehensive-article-on-spotting-fake-news-can-we-make-it-a-sticky/772472/27 "2016-11-29T18:16:06Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> It’s a shame we’re not in the Pit, where I could respond the way I would like.
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> Instead, I will content myself with slapping you across the face with The Wet Trout Of Reality ™:
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> [http://www.westernjournalism.com/cnns-cuomo-it-will-be-medias-job-to-act-as-trump-opposition/?utm\_source=Facebook&utm\_medium=THENewVoice&utm\_campaign=manualpost](http://www.westernjournalism.com/cnns-cuomo-it-will-be-medias-job-to-act-as-trump-opposition/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=THENewVoice&utm_campaign=manualpost)
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> Still think that CNN is a reliable source? It hasn’t been one for years, why would they start now?

So, by my theory, CNN then is a reliable source. Who knew?

I’m not here to wave CNN’s flag. It has it’s shortcomings. But it is still better, often far better, than 99%+ of the sources you cite.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-has-a-comprehensive-article-on-spotting-fake-news-can-we-make-it-a-sticky/772472/28 "2016-11-29T19:54:34Z")

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Leaving aside the hijack of “what’s a reliable news source online” (plenty of other threads for that), there’s the more fundamental question of “sticky what?”

A link to a CNN article will eventually die. They’re not going to archive that thing forever.

Copying the text of the article is out of the question. Copyright, and all that.

Writing a new article here and stickying that would be wonderful, but I wouldn’t hold my breath. (A) TPTB don’t have people idling around to write stuff like that, including moderators; and (B) “don’t click clickbait” would oppose the board’s commitment to making as much money as possible off of advertising.

More in keeping with the board’s ethos regarding misinformation is to let ignorants click fake news and than teach them openly in the course of invigorating board discussion until they flounce off in a huff and we take them to the Pit to mock them properly. 🙂

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-has-a-comprehensive-article-on-spotting-fake-news-can-we-make-it-a-sticky/772472/29 "2016-11-29T20:00:09Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> It’s a shame we’re not in the Pit, where I could respond the way I would like.
> 
> Instead, I will content myself with slapping you across the face with The Wet Trout Of Reality ™:
> 
> [http://www.westernjournalism.com/cnns-cuomo-it-will-be-medias-job-to-act-as-trump-opposition/?utm\_source=Facebook&utm\_medium=THENewVoice&utm\_campaign=manualpost](http://www.westernjournalism.com/cnns-cuomo-it-will-be-medias-job-to-act-as-trump-opposition/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=THENewVoice&utm_campaign=manualpost)
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> Still think that CNN is a reliable source? It hasn’t been one for years, why would they start now?

So it’s better if the media rolls over like a lapdog?

Why shouldn’t the media act as opposition? That’s their job. Which they failed at during the election. I don’t remember Clinton getting tons of free coverage or her surrogates given free reign to lie their asses off.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-has-a-comprehensive-article-on-spotting-fake-news-can-we-make-it-a-sticky/772472/30 "2016-11-29T21:00:53Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Has anyone here ever been fooled by a fake news story?

Not giving names, but today I did encounter a poster that was. Knowing how other posters also claim to not follow mainstream news for their information I have to say that several posters do get fooled by fake news.

Saddest thing is that, just like outside of the SDMB, the ones that fall for those news usually end up defending the fake news. I have to say that in my youth I have been fooled by hacks like Von Danniken and Immanuel Velikovsky, but I got better…

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-has-a-comprehensive-article-on-spotting-fake-news-can-we-make-it-a-sticky/772472/31 "2016-11-29T21:11:56Z")

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**Moderator Note**

Although whether or not a particular news source is reliable or not does influence whether or not we should have stickies on the SDMB related to their reliability, let’s not get too bogged down in this thread about the reliability of CNN or any other news source. Let’s try to focus on the SDMB related issues in this thread, as much as possible, and not get too sidetracked discussing the pros and cons of CNN or any other particular site.

Also,

> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> Is this like a double negative. If someone (say a SDMB poster, lets call her _Humpasmurf_) who cannot tell fact from fiction tells you something is fiction, it is likely to be fact?

Changing the name but still making it very obvious who you are talking about still comes off as a personal insult/attack. Please do not do this in ATMB.

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**Author:** ![arseNal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@arseNal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/arseNal)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2016, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-has-a-comprehensive-article-on-spotting-fake-news-can-we-make-it-a-sticky/772472/32 "2016-12-06T22:10:39Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> It’s a shame we’re not in the Pit, where I could respond the way I would like.
> 
> Instead, I will content myself with slapping you across the face with The Wet Trout Of Reality ™:
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> [http://www.westernjournalism.com/cnns-cuomo-it-will-be-medias-job-to-act-as-trump-opposition/?utm\_source=Facebook&utm\_medium=THENewVoice&utm\_campaign=manualpost](http://www.westernjournalism.com/cnns-cuomo-it-will-be-medias-job-to-act-as-trump-opposition/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=THENewVoice&utm_campaign=manualpost)
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> Still think that CNN is a reliable source? It hasn’t been one for years, why would they start now?

> [@](#):
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> Per Cuomo, “The media cannot yield. This administration is going to demand constant fact-checking and opposition.”

Such a terrible thing, to insist on fact checking and opposition to lies.

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