# CNN Headline - Calls Murder a "Stabbing" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 16, 2020, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-headline-calls-murder-a-stabbing/855780 "2020-06-16T15:40:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-headline-calls-murder-a-stabbing/855780/41 "2020-06-17T21:49:52Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > An article in the news section ‘‘pointing out that the president is a corrupt and bumbling fool’’ _would_ be a valid cite. > > An article labeled as “analysis” or “opinion” that pointed it out would not. > > A story citing facts that would lead the reader to such a conclusion would not. I’m not sure that’s really a matter of opinion anymore, actually. (Though admittedly it’s long since ceased to be news, too.) ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-headline-calls-murder-a-stabbing/855780/42 "2020-06-18T01:17:23Z")
> [@pool](#): > > Most people don’t read past headlines, yes if you click the link the dead white lady is mentioned in passing but the whole story is basically dedicated to the black victim, even though the old white last was protesting the same thing. The 75 year old woman’s death is treated as if it didn’t even matter at all. No picture of the killer at all, why not? OMG! The ‘white lady killed’ is just mentioned in passing while the black lady killed is center pieced. Have you activated the KKK Phone List? Is the ‘Lynch Squad’ on the case…? [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkjsPuCl0p4) ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-headline-calls-murder-a-stabbing/855780/43 "2020-06-18T04:12:53Z")
> [@pool](#): > > Most people don’t read past headlines, yes if you click the link the dead white lady is mentioned in passing but the whole story is basically dedicated to the black victim, even though the old white last was protesting the same thing. The 75 year old woman’s death is treated as if it didn’t even matter at all. No picture of the killer at all, why not? No, YOU don’t read past the headlines. Not everyone is as fucking stupid as you, fortunately. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-headline-calls-murder-a-stabbing/855780/44 "2020-06-18T04:28:33Z")
> [@pool](#): > > Most people don’t read past headlines, yes if you click the link the dead white lady is mentioned in passing but the whole story is basically dedicated to the black victim, even though the old white last was protesting the same thing. The 75 year old woman’s death is treated as if it didn’t even matter at all. No picture of the killer at all, why not? Other articles explain why one death was more “newsworthy” than the other. [Oluwatoyin Salau, Victoria Sims: Timeline of disappearance and death](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/17/oluwatoyin-salau-victoria-sims-timeline-disappearance-and-death/3206116001/) Salau had been missing for much longer, after having tweeted that she’d been sexually assaulted, and a search had been underway for over a week and was widely reported. Sims had only gone missing a couple days before her body was found with Salau’s. She wasn’t already a news item. Now she is. ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-headline-calls-murder-a-stabbing/855780/45 "2020-06-18T05:21:58Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > No, YOU don’t read past the headlines. Not everyone is as fucking stupid as you, fortunately. Sorry you little bitch but you’re wrong again: [https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/03/19/americans-read-headlines-and-not-much-else/%3foutputType=amp](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/03/19/americans-read-headlines-and-not-much-else/%3foutputType=amp) [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2016/06/16/six-in-10-of-you-will-share-this-link-without-reading-it-according-to-a-new-and-depressing-study/?outputType=amp](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2016/06/16/six-in-10-of-you-will-share-this-link-without-reading-it-according-to-a-new-and-depressing-study/?outputType=amp) [https://www.studentnewsdaily.com/example-of-media-bias/why-headlines-matter-2/](https://www.studentnewsdaily.com/example-of-media-bias/why-headlines-matter-2/) Seriously think about how poorly informed Americans are about their own system of government or the constitution, it shouldn’t surprise anyone that most people only read headlines, especially on social media. [https://www.annenbergpublicpolicycenter.org/americans-are-poorly-informed-about-basic-constitutional-provisions/](https://www.annenbergpublicpolicycenter.org/americans-are-poorly-informed-about-basic-constitutional-provisions/) ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-headline-calls-murder-a-stabbing/855780/46 "2020-06-18T05:47:14Z")
The accused in this case was not convicted of murder, so it wouldn’t be appropriate to link him to a murder in the headline without lots of qualifications, which you can’t put in a headline. ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-headline-calls-murder-a-stabbing/855780/47 "2020-06-18T06:11:40Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > The accused in this case was not convicted of murder, so it wouldn’t be appropriate to link him to a murder in the headline without lots of qualifications, which you can’t put in a headline. Um what? All these cops that have been killing people have certainly been in headlines or at least had their picture appear along with the headline, and they haven’t been convicted either. Look I’m not saying CNN is the only news source that is slanted or biased, they clearly all are, but the thread was started about CNN and that’s why I brought it up. Another interesting thing among American news readers is that they can’t always tell the difference between facts and opinions and I think a lot of these online news sites play into this with the way they present articles, even from a visual standpoint. [https://www.journalism.org/2018/06/18/distinguishing-between-factual-and-opinion-statements-in-the-news/](https://www.journalism.org/2018/06/18/distinguishing-between-factual-and-opinion-statements-in-the-news/) ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-headline-calls-murder-a-stabbing/855780/48 "2020-06-18T11:35:43Z")
> [@pool](#): > > Um what? All these cops that have been killing people have certainly been in headlines or at least had their picture appear along with the headline, and they haven’t been convicted either. > … First of all, the person in question here wasn’t the killer, he handed the knife to the killer. Second of all, he was twelve years old at the time and 14 now, so that’s why his face and name is being kept out of the news. If the cops that had been killing people were also 14 years old, I have no doubt their identities would also have been protected. Maybe you should read past the headlines. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-headline-calls-murder-a-stabbing/855780/49 "2020-06-18T12:43:04Z")
> [@pool](#): > > Another interesting thing among American news readers is that they can’t always tell the difference between facts and opinions and I think a lot of these online news sites play into this with the way they present articles, even from a visual standpoint. This is a reasonable complaint. When “straight” news articles are intermingled with analysis (often not prominently labeled) it contributes to the impression that the medium in question is biased. Better to have an editorial/op-ed section and raise hell there. I’m old enough to remember when nightly network news on TV would pause for an EDITORIAL. This was usually serious stuff and you’d pay attention, especially if Cronkite was getting pissy about something. ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-headline-calls-murder-a-stabbing/855780/50 "2020-06-18T17:51:18Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > First of all, the person in question here wasn’t the killer, he handed the knife to the killer. Second of all, he was twelve years old at the time and 14 now, so that’s why his face and name is being kept out of the news. If the cops that had been killing people were also 14 years old, I have no doubt their identities would also have been protected. > > Maybe you should read past the headlines. I think you’re talking about a different news story than I am, the one I’m talking about has said nothing about a 14 year old. [https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/2-missing-george-floyd-protesters-found-murdered-in-florida-suspect-arrested.amp](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/2-missing-george-floyd-protesters-found-murdered-in-florida-suspect-arrested.amp) ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-headline-calls-murder-a-stabbing/855780/51 "2020-06-18T18:16:47Z")
> [@pool](#): > > I think you’re talking about a different news story than I am, the one I’m talking about has said nothing about a 14 year old. > > [https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/2-missing-george-floyd-protesters-found-murdered-in-florida-suspect-arrested.amp](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/2-missing-george-floyd-protesters-found-murdered-in-florida-suspect-arrested.amp) I’m talking about the murder that this thread is about. What does your article have to with: > [@](#): > > Um what? All these cops that have been killing people have certainly been in headlines or at least had their picture appear along with the headline, and they haven’t been convicted either. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-headline-calls-murder-a-stabbing/855780/52 "2020-06-18T18:17:07Z")
> [@pool](#): > > I think you’re talking about a different news story than I am, the one I’m talking about has said nothing about a 14 year old. > > [2 missing George Floyd protesters found murdered in Florida; suspect arrested | Fox News](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/2-missing-george-floyd-protesters-found-murdered-in-florida-suspect-arrested.amp) Yet I answered you in post #44 and you haven’t responded. ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-headline-calls-murder-a-stabbing/855780/53 "2020-06-18T18:29:30Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > I’m talking about the murder that this thread is about. What does your article have to with: You posted a reply to me so I thought it was about the story I brought up, I wasn’t talking about the story in the OP, just another CNN headline since the thread was about CNN. I guess you were but I’m not sure why you responded to my post then. ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-headline-calls-murder-a-stabbing/855780/54 "2020-06-18T18:34:42Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > Yet I answered you in post #44 and you haven’t responded. Well I disagree that one was more newsworthy than the other, they were directly connected, they were killed by the same guy! But anyway, I accept you feel differently. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-headline-calls-murder-a-stabbing/855780/55 "2020-06-18T18:45:16Z")
> [@pool](#): > > Well I disagree that one was more newsworthy than the other, they were directly connected, they were killed by the same guy! > > But anyway, I accept you feel differently. One had been in the news for a week with a frightening, lurid backstory. The other one had not. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-headline-calls-murder-a-stabbing/855780/56 "2020-06-18T19:50:27Z")
> [@pool](#): > > You posted a reply to me so I thought it was about the story I brought up, I wasn’t talking about the story in the OP, just another CNN headline since the thread was about CNN. I guess you were but I’m not sure why you responded to my post then. Can you walk me through your logic from that article you posted to your comment about the police that I quoted above? Here it is again: > [@](#): > > Um what? All these cops that have been killing people have certainly been in headlines or at least had their picture appear along with the headline, and they haven’t been convicted either. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-headline-calls-murder-a-stabbing/855780.md?page=2)