# CNN Reports people claiming Warren was told by Sanders that a woman can't win. **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 13, 2020, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-reports-people-claiming-warren-was-told-by-sanders-that-a-woman-cant-win/846369 "2020-01-13T21:01:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-reports-people-claiming-warren-was-told-by-sanders-that-a-woman-cant-win/846369/1 "2020-01-13T21:01:50Z")
Warren is staying silent about the incident. Why doesn’t she speak up and tell us the truth? Seriously. Break your silence Warren. Be honest. “It is ludicrous to believe that at the same meeting where Elizabeth Warren told me she was going to run for president, I would tell her that a woman couldn’t win,” Sanders said." > **[Sanders slams report alleging he told Warren woman can’t win presidency](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/478020-sanders-slams-report-alleging-he-told-warren-woman-cant-win-presidency/)** > > Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders (I) is strongly denying a CNN report alleging that he told Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) that a woman cannot win the White House. CNN reported Monday that th… ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-reports-people-claiming-warren-was-told-by-sanders-that-a-woman-cant-win/846369/2 "2020-01-13T21:15:40Z")
Maybe Sanders never said anything to Warren at that event/meeting/whatever? Maybe Warren doesn’t want to perpetuate fake bullshit in any manner? Maybe we should stop letting people stir the pot in our national politics? I seriously doubt Sanders said any such thing. Warren is in no way obligated to say anything on anything, but particularly she has a right to remain silent about something that never happened. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-reports-people-claiming-warren-was-told-by-sanders-that-a-woman-cant-win/846369/3 "2020-01-13T21:15:45Z")
> [@MyFootsZZZ](#): > > Warren is staying silent about the incident. Why doesn’t she speak up and tell us the truth? > > Seriously. Break your silence Warren. Be honest. Aren’t we taking this a wee bit overseriously? I mean, it’s like those instructions for the Sanders volunteers when asked about Warren. Warren gave a low-key response and that should be the end of it. We don’t need a massive investigation into how those instructions came into being; they were misguided IMHO, but just not that big a deal. Same with this. Sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-reports-people-claiming-warren-was-told-by-sanders-that-a-woman-cant-win/846369/4 "2020-01-13T21:18:16Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Aren’t we taking this a wee bit overseriously? > > I mean, it’s like those instructions for the Sanders volunteers when asked about Warren. Warren gave a low-key response and that should be the end of it. We don’t need a massive investigation into how those instructions came into being; they were misguided IMHO, but just not that big a deal. > > Same with this. Sheesh. can you link to the store you’re talking about? I might have missed it. I’ve been out of the loop for a long time. If it’s no big deal why does CNN report it? It seems they like trying to find the smallest thing on Sanders, but ignore the other candidates follies. by the way I’m trying to keep an open mind, so maybe you have information I don’t know about. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-reports-people-claiming-warren-was-told-by-sanders-that-a-woman-cant-win/846369/5 "2020-01-13T21:20:31Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Warren is in no way obligated to say anything on anything, but particularly she has a right to remain silent about something that never happened. Perhaps you’re right. But I think Sanders would clear up any misconceptions if the shoe was on the other foot. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-reports-people-claiming-warren-was-told-by-sanders-that-a-woman-cant-win/846369/6 "2020-01-13T21:32:44Z")
> [@MyFootsZZZ](#): > > Warren is staying silent about the incident. Why doesn’t she speak up and tell us the truth? > > Seriously. Break your silence Warren. Be honest. > > “It is ludicrous to believe that at the same meeting where Elizabeth Warren told me she was going to run for president, I would tell her that a woman couldn’t win,” Sanders said." > > [Sanders slams report alleging he told Warren woman can’t win presidency | The Hill](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/478020-sanders-slams-report-alleging-he-told-warren-woman-cant-win-presidency) “Break your silence”? Didn’t this story get posted a couple hours ago? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-reports-people-claiming-warren-was-told-by-sanders-that-a-woman-cant-win/846369/7 "2020-01-13T21:33:50Z")
Maybe Sanders didn’t say it as a commentary on Warren’s qualifications. May he said it as cynical commentary of the last election where a highly competent and imminently qualified woman lost to an orange assclown. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-reports-people-claiming-warren-was-told-by-sanders-that-a-woman-cant-win/846369/8 "2020-01-13T21:36:35Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > “Break your silence”? Didn’t this story get posted a couple hours ago? I didn’t see it. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-reports-people-claiming-warren-was-told-by-sanders-that-a-woman-cant-win/846369/9 "2020-01-13T21:38:14Z")
I’m genuinely unclear why I should care. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-reports-people-claiming-warren-was-told-by-sanders-that-a-woman-cant-win/846369/10 "2020-01-13T21:42:05Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > I’m genuinely unclear why I should care. Seriously? I mean… If you don’t care, you don’t care. Are you saying others shouldn’t care? If so, maybe your right. Apparently there’s another thread on this so you can erase this one if you want. I guess I thought it was a bigger deal than it was. It is silly. I’ll give you that. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-reports-people-claiming-warren-was-told-by-sanders-that-a-woman-cant-win/846369/11 "2020-01-13T21:47:27Z")
> [@MyFootsZZZ](#): > > I didn’t see it. That’s what I’m saying. It’s brand new. You’re acting like this got posted last week and Warren is ducking reporters on it. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-reports-people-claiming-warren-was-told-by-sanders-that-a-woman-cant-win/846369/12 "2020-01-13T21:49:54Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Maybe Sanders didn’t say it as a commentary on Warren’s qualifications. May he said it as cynical commentary of the last election where a highly competent and imminently qualified woman lost to an orange assclown. This is how I see it as well. I don’t believe for one moment that Bernie is misogynistic. It’s more like he was telling it like it is - that a woman still faces disadvantages vis-a-vis Trump that a man wouldn’t, and would get less votes from the American electorate. No more homophobic than saying a gay man can’t win or atheist-phobic for saying an atheist can’t win. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-reports-people-claiming-warren-was-told-by-sanders-that-a-woman-cant-win/846369/13 "2020-01-13T21:51:27Z")
There is no way this is disinformation spread for the purpose of dividing the Democratic base! NO WAY! ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-reports-people-claiming-warren-was-told-by-sanders-that-a-woman-cant-win/846369/14 "2020-01-13T21:57:38Z")
So can we agree that CNN does sh\*t reporting? If this isn’t news, why is it news? ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-reports-people-claiming-warren-was-told-by-sanders-that-a-woman-cant-win/846369/15 "2020-01-13T22:00:20Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > That’s what I’m saying. It’s brand new. You’re acting like this got posted last week and Warren is ducking reporters on it. I see what you’re saying… I honestly didn’t know how new the story was. I should check dates more often. but yes you’re probably right and I probably overreacted. ---
**Author:** ![blindboyard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blindboyard/32/2833_2.png) [@blindboyard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blindboyard)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-reports-people-claiming-warren-was-told-by-sanders-that-a-woman-cant-win/846369/16 "2020-01-13T23:00:29Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Aren’t we taking this a wee bit overseriously? > > I mean, it’s like those instructions for the Sanders volunteers when asked about Warren. Warren gave a low-key response and that should be the end of it. We don’t need a massive investigation into how those instructions came into being; they were misguided IMHO, but just not that big a deal. > > Same with this. Sheesh. That story was completely fake, and Warren fell for it. Perhaps that has made her more hesitant to comment. The Sanders’ campaign makes its people sign a pledge and take a test, aimed at making sure they don’t even mention other candidates. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-reports-people-claiming-warren-was-told-by-sanders-that-a-woman-cant-win/846369/17 "2020-01-13T23:12:08Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Maybe Sanders didn’t say it as a commentary on Warren’s qualifications. May he said it as cynical commentary of the last election where a highly competent and imminently qualified woman lost to an orange assclown. Well, that woman DID get more votes than the man opposing her. Surely Sanders would have been aware of that little fact, which makes the CNN story less credible. > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > There is no way this is disinformation spread for the purpose of dividing the Democratic base! NO WAY! I’ve no doubt that this sort of thing gets put up on the assignment board at the St. Petersburg and Cyprus troll farms: “HIT THIS HARD TODAY” and so on. But it’s also about journalists (or perhaps “journalists”) getting career points when they tempt one candidate into making rude remarks about another candidate. _Score!!!_ Of such “scoops” are promotions and pay-raises made. So we can expect to see plenty more where this came from. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-reports-people-claiming-warren-was-told-by-sanders-that-a-woman-cant-win/846369/18 "2020-01-13T23:12:40Z")
[Here’s the original CNN story.](https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/13/politics/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-meeting/index.html) For the record, the story doesn’t say anything about how Warren herself is or is not responding. > [@CNN](#): > > Warren’s communications director Kristen Orthman declined to comment. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-reports-people-claiming-warren-was-told-by-sanders-that-a-woman-cant-win/846369/19 "2020-01-13T23:17:29Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Maybe Sanders didn’t say it as a commentary on Warren’s qualifications. May he said it as cynical commentary of the last election where a highly competent and imminently qualified woman lost to an orange assclown. (Emphasis added.) ISWYDT, I think. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-reports-people-claiming-warren-was-told-by-sanders-that-a-woman-cant-win/846369/20 "2020-01-13T23:28:57Z")
> [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > [Here’s the original CNN story.](https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/13/politics/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-meeting/index.html) > > For the record, the story doesn’t say anything about how Warren herself is or is not responding. A communications staffer declining to comment is often the worst thing to do. Allows the media to continue to rumble on knowing it’s not being denied by the side who have the most credibility to call bullshit on it. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-reports-people-claiming-warren-was-told-by-sanders-that-a-woman-cant-win/846369.md?page=2)