# CNN, while discussing fake news, spreads fake news **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 6, 2017, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-while-discussing-fake-news-spreads-fake-news/790608 "2017-07-06T15:12:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-while-discussing-fake-news-spreads-fake-news/790608/21 "2017-07-07T01:33:41Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > CNN is becoming ridiculous in its desire to interpret everything as anti-Trump. Remember when Jim Acosta posted that video of him bodyslamming the Photoshopped Sean Spicer? That was rediculous. The stuff you are posting about is not rediculous. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-while-discussing-fake-news-spreads-fake-news/790608/22 "2017-07-07T01:55:10Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > More clownish stupidity from CNN: [https://youtu.be/dv8kaNGQZZA?t=28](https://youtu.be/dv8kaNGQZZA?t=28) > > CNN claims that Angela Merkel chose the location of the G20 summit in order to make sure Trump hears the protesters. Never mind that the location was chosen in June 2016. > > CNN is becoming ridiculous in its desire to interpret everything as anti-Trump. Y’know, people that support Trump should avoid terms like “clownish stupidity”. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-while-discussing-fake-news-spreads-fake-news/790608/23 "2017-07-07T04:21:57Z")
I find it odd that the Coast Guard hasn’t registered their disagreement if they have reached other conclusions. Seems like they do, in fact, tacitly agree with the assessment. Do you have any reason to believe that they do, in fact, disagree? If not, then the 17 intelligence agencies do seem to agree. ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-while-discussing-fake-news-spreads-fake-news/790608/24 "2017-07-07T23:39:46Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Y’know, people that support Trump should avoid terms like “clownish stupidity”. I am a Trump opposer and I think CNN has lost its standing as an objective source of hard news. I first felt this way when the Malaysian airliner was lost. Dave Barry said it best: “A huge airliner simply vanished, and to this day nobody has any idea what happened to it, despite literally thousands of hours of intensive speculation on CNN.” CNN has a few minutes of hard news each day punctuated by useless filler by bloviating experts, and mini-debates where they put people toe-to-toe whom they know are going to cause fireworks with their positional arguments with no useful or civil discussion. Since last year’s campaign they have gotten more and more belligerent towards him, and the sad thing is all you have to do to make Trump look like an idiot is report the facts with no further commentary. But they add snarky remarks, become dramatically indignant, and exaggerate minor points to comic effect. > [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > I find it odd that the Coast Guard hasn’t registered their disagreement if they have reached other conclusions. Seems like they do, in fact, tacitly agree with the assessment. > > Do you have any reason to believe that they do, in fact, disagree? If not, then the 17 intelligence agencies do seem to agree. There was a report issued at the level of oversight of all 17 agencies but the report said only that the FBI, NSA, and CIA reached this conclusion. You can’t draw any conclusion either way about what the Coast Guard or the other 13 agencies thinks; they may not have participated in any way nor have even seen the evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2017, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-while-discussing-fake-news-spreads-fake-news/790608/25 "2017-07-08T00:55:32Z")
> [@CookingWithGas](#): > > I am a Trump opposer and I think CNN has lost its standing as an objective source of hard news. I first felt this way when the Malaysian airliner was lost. Dave Barry said it best: “A huge airliner simply vanished, and to this day nobody has any idea what happened to it, despite literally thousands of hours of intensive speculation on CNN.” CNN has a few minutes of hard news each day punctuated by useless filler by bloviating experts, and mini-debates where they put people toe-to-toe whom they know are going to cause fireworks with their positional arguments with no useful or civil discussion. As Mark Steyn said yesterday about CNN, when he compared the CNN stupidity about the Malaysian airliner vs. the CNN stupidity about “Booga! Collusion! Russia!” - at least there actually was an airliner. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-while-discussing-fake-news-spreads-fake-news/790608/26 "2017-07-11T02:33:48Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Got a few links? [This FAIR article](http://fair.org/take-action/media-advisories/iraq-and-the-media/) has a long list of media quotes. I think the following qualify. > [@](#): > > MSNBC‘s Ashleigh Banfield, introducing anti-war Rep. Nick Rahall (D-Wash): “This representative not only opposes attacking Saddam Hussein, he took his message all the way to Baghdad for three days from September 13th through the 16th to support Saddam Hussein and say give peace a chance.” > [@](#): > > While interviewing war critic and former weapons inspector Scott Ritter on CNN, Paula Zahn suggests he is in league with Saddam Hussein: “People out there are accusing you of drinking Saddam Hussein’s Kool-Aid.” > [@](#): > > When Caldicott brings up the effect of sanctions on Iraq, Blitzer again offers the official line, saying that “the Iraqi regime itself is to blame for all of these problems.” Blitzer goes on to argue that Caldicott’s questioning of U.S. policy is tantamount to “defending the Iraqi regime.” > [@](#): > > CBS reporter Bob Simon comments that Saddam Hussein “and the Iraqi people have pitched their tents right in the middle of the global peace camp.” > [@](#): > > CNN‘s Aaron Brown asks activist Daniel Ellsberg if antiwar rallies are “playing into the hands of what I think you would even acknowledge is a very bad regime.” MSNBC‘s Joe Scarborough: > [@](#): > > “Do you all remember Scott Ritter, you know, the former chief U.N. weapons inspector who played chief stooge for Saddam Hussein? Well, Mr. Ritter actually told a French radio network that — quote, “The United States is going to leave Baghdad with its tail between its legs, defeated.” Sorry, Scott. I think you’ve been chasing the wrong tail, again.” [Scarborough again:](http://fair.org/media-beat-column/unmasking-the-ugly-quotanti-americanquot/) > [@](#): > > “These leftist stooges for anti-American causes are always given a free pass. Isn’t it time to make them stand up and be counted for their views, which could hurt American troop morale?” > [@](#): > > Responding to a trip to Baghdad by Congressional Democrats opposed to the Iraq War (Reps. Jim McDermott and David Bonior), Washington Post columnist George Will writes that “Saddam Hussein finds American collaborators among senior congressional Democrats.” > [@](#): > > CNN host Connie Chung takes Rep. Mike Thompson (D.-Calif.) to task for expressing doubts about claims made by George W. Bush about Iraq’s weapons. At one point Chung interrupts Thompson to say, “You mean you don’t believe what President Bush just said? With all due respect….you know… I mean, what…” Chung adds: “So it sounds almost as if you’re asking the American public, ‘Believe Saddam Hussein, don’t believe President Bush.'” Richard Cohen: > [@](#): > > The evidence he presented to the United Nations—some of it circumstantial, some of it absolutely bone-chilling in its detail—had to prove to anyone that Iraq not only hasn’t accounted for its weapons of mass destruction but without a doubt still retains them. Only a fool—or possibly a Frenchman—could conclude otherwise. It’s interesting how back then the media portrayed France as cowardly anti-American turncoats, but nowadays you’re supposed to weep for them when they suffer from terrorist attacks. Whatever helps the narrative. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-while-discussing-fake-news-spreads-fake-news/790608/27 "2017-07-11T04:23:56Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > I did not see any “doubling down” in the video you provided. Well, there’s Trump accusing other people of telling lies. That’s clearly doubling down coming from the Liar-in-Chief. But I doubt it’s what the OP meant. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn-while-discussing-fake-news-spreads-fake-news/790608.md?page=1)