# CNN **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 28, 2017, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065 "2017-06-28T17:17:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/21 "2017-06-28T20:11:37Z")
> [@CurtC](#): > > Did the Trump campaign request the actions, or did the Russians simply inform the Trump campaign ahead of time? I love it. Did you beat your wife with a belt or with your fists? How about “The Trump campaign didn’t request the actions and didn’t know about the actions”. Is that a possibility, you think? ---
**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/22 "2017-06-28T20:20:38Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > That CNN’s profits are going to go through the roof? Then why are you questioning its future? Perhaps because current profits tell us little about the network other than its profits are up. Is the networks future infotainment based? Serious news based? Is it a future of ridicule followed by loss of viewership? I think these are reasonable questions. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/23 "2017-06-28T20:23:37Z")
> [@Silver\_lining](#): > > There is a difference between an opinion and outright lies. How many people did Fox fire over the years for lies? > > CNN fired how many this year? This makes the opposite point that you’re trying to make. Lying at Fox News is a regular part of the job, so no one would be fired for it. They don’t hold people accountable for bad journalism because their mission is bad journalism. When CNN’s staff fucks up occasionally, they’re punished and the stories are corrected and retracted. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/24 "2017-06-28T20:29:05Z")
> [@Silver\_lining](#): > > There is a difference between an opinion and outright lies. How many people did Fox fire over the years for lies? > > CNN fired how many this year? Fox only fires someone if their sexual harrassment entanglements cost the network dollars. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/25 "2017-06-28T20:31:35Z")
> [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](#): > > Perhaps because current profits tell us little about the network other than its profits are up. > > Is the networks future infotainment based? Serious news based? Is it a future of ridicule followed by loss of viewership? I think these are reasonable questions. In your opinion, what is the single best outlet of news that you know of? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/26 "2017-06-28T20:58:04Z")
CNN and Fox will both survive their pratfalls. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/27 "2017-06-28T21:04:18Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > CNN and Fox will both survive their pratfalls. CNN has pratfalls; Fox’s entire business model is a slip-n-slide. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/28 "2017-06-28T21:04:36Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > It will die and take liberalism, the democratic party and gays with it. You misspelled “Democrat Party”. ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/29 "2017-06-28T21:26:12Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > I love it. Did you beat your wife with a belt or with your fists? > > How about “The Trump campaign didn’t request the actions and didn’t know about the actions”. Is that a possibility, you think? You left off my previous point that we already have pretty good evidence that the Trump campaign knew about the Russian leaks before they happened. I consider your scenario a remote possibility, but I should have mentioned it. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/30 "2017-06-28T21:32:08Z")
> [@CurtC](#): > > You left off my previous point that we already have pretty good evidence that the Trump campaign knew about the Russian leaks before they happened. No, we don’t. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/31 "2017-06-28T21:46:32Z")
That certainly settles that! Any questions? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/32 "2017-06-28T21:51:57Z")
Well, “we” do, but Okrahoma is clearly Donald Trump. As the top story on CNN right now says, Trump refuses to listen to any talk of Russia still being a threat to the USA. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/33 "2017-06-28T21:59:22Z")
> [@Silver\_lining](#): > > There is a difference between an opinion and outright lies. How many people did Fox fire over the years for lies? > > CNN fired how many this year? Please. How many plainly false conspiracy theories has Fox floated over the years? You’re not helping your point. But then, I don’t think it matters to you whether it’s logical or not; you just _know_ it’s true. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/34 "2017-06-28T21:59:44Z")
I made a mistake in thinking this could be a debate. Off to the Pit. [/moderating] ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/35 "2017-06-28T22:09:22Z")
> [@Silver\_lining](#): > > With three CNN employees resigning over retracted story on Russia ties, a lawsuit of 100 million dollars against, and being caught giving Hillary Clinton the debate questions in advance what is the future of this network? It must be exhausting to be so stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/36 "2017-06-28T22:16:22Z")
Tell me, what was the penalty for Fox having a greater than 50% pure bullshit content for the last 20 years? > **[PolitiFact - MSNBC, Fox, CNN move the needle on our Truth-O-Meter scorecards](https://www.politifact.com/article/2015/jan/27/msnbc-fox-cnn-move-needle-our-truth-o-meter-scorec/)** > > MSNBC and CNN have improved ever so slightly on our TV network scorecards, while Fox News has moved a touch in the oppos In 2015, only a mere 21% of Fox stories checked were True, or Mostly True. 18% Half True and a whopping 60% Mostly False, False and Pants on Fire. If you think Fox is telling you the truth and you’re attacking CNN, you’re a partisan ass. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/37 "2017-06-28T22:27:00Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > It must be exhausting to be so stupid. It’s vaguely tragic that natural selection doesn’t impose greater penalties for stupidity - we might have bred it out centuries ago. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/38 "2017-06-28T22:53:39Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Well, “we” do, but Okrahoma is clearly Donald Trump. He obviously wants Trump inside of him, but it’s unclear whether it’s gone that far. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/39 "2017-06-29T03:10:38Z")
I want to go on record right now as saying Trump in France for Bastille Day will bring out some serious loonies. I didnt derail the thread, someone else did. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/40 "2017-06-29T03:15:33Z")
> [@Silver\_lining](#): > > There is no proof of the Russians did anything to fix our election, even heavyweight Democrats agree on this. Here’s some more proof (and I forgot to ask…which “heavyweight Democrats agree on this”?): > [@](#): > > **NSA director frustrated Trump won’t accept Russia interfered in election: report** > > National Security Agency (NSA) Director Mike Rogers is frustrated that he has not yet convinced President Trump that U.S. intelligence indicates Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election, CNN reported Wednesday. > > Rogers vented frustration over his fruitless efforts to lawmakers during a recent closed-door briefing on Capitol Hill, a congressional source familiar with the meeting told the news network. > > SOURCE: [http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/339929-nsa-director-frustrated-trump-wont-accept-russia-interfered-in](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/339929-nsa-director-frustrated-trump-wont-accept-russia-interfered-in) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065.md?page=3)