# CNN

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 28, 2017, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065 "2017-06-28T17:17:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
**Page:** 3

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**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/41 "2017-06-29T03:17:08Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Tell me, what was the penalty for Fox having a greater than 50% pure bullshit content for the last 20 years?
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> [PolitiFact | MSNBC, Fox, CNN move the needle on our Truth-O-Meter scorecards](http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/article/2015/jan/27/msnbc-fox-cnn-move-needle-our-truth-o-meter-scorec/)
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> In 2015, only a mere 21% of Fox stories checked were True, or Mostly True. 18% Half True and a whopping 60% Mostly False, False and Pants on Fire.
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> If you think Fox is telling you the truth and you’re attacking CNN, you’re a partisan ass.

Fake News!! Fake News!!

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/42 "2017-06-29T06:42:10Z")

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> [@Silver\_lining](#):
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> I suggest anyone learning journalism should read the boy who cried wolf. You might get an increase in ratings with these fake news stories, but the cost will be your credibility and over time which means your ratings will drop.
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> CNN might be around in the future, but I suspect they will have to change their format.

😕

That is SUCH a non-sequitur that it’s difficult to know how to respond. Journalism doesn’t happen on television, so why would anything that happens on television be of interest to journalism students?

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/43 "2017-06-29T06:48:56Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> That is SUCH a non-sequitur that it’s difficult to know how to respond. Journalism doesn’t happen on television, so why would anything that happens on television be of interest to journalism students?

Fortunately, you’re wrong. Journalism still happens on TV, even on CNN, but it’s by no means a 24/7 thing.

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**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/44 "2017-06-29T07:44:16Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> In your opinion, what is the single best outlet of news that you know of?

Not that it matters in regards to what we are discussing, but the BBC are probably still the best of a very bad bunch.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/45 "2017-06-29T09:16:27Z")

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> [@Silver\_lining](#):
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> With three CNN employees resigning over retracted story on Russia ties, a lawsuit of 100 million dollars against, and being caught giving Hillary Clinton the debate questions in advance what is the future of this network?

I neither know nor care. What kind of idiot would get all of one’s information about the world from a single television news outlet?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/46 "2017-06-29T12:18:15Z")

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That question has been answered.

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**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/47 "2017-06-29T12:54:58Z")

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That question has been elected and inaugurated.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/48 "2017-06-29T13:22:58Z")

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> [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](#):
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> Not that it matters in regards to what we are discussing, but the BBC are probably still the best of a very bad bunch.

Good thing BBC has never retracted a story! No way they would last nearly a hundred years if they did.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/49 "2017-06-29T13:25:47Z")

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I take this thread as evidence the OP knows Fox News is crap, hence the desperation to convince everyone that everything else is crap, also, so Fox News isn’t so bad by comparison.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/50 "2017-06-29T14:39:33Z")

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Good news outlets have been making errors and retracting them since time immemorial. No one who understands anything about news or journalism in general would find this story at all remarkable. If anything, CNN handled this quite well.

In the past, this sort of thing would happen, the media outlet’s competitors would make hay of it for awhile, and we’d move on. Only this administration goes berserk over it, because this administration is built on a tower of lies.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/51 "2017-06-29T15:43:38Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Good news outlets have been making errors and retracting them since time immemorial. No one who understands anything about news or journalism in general would find this story at all remarkable. If anything, CNN handled this quite well.

Indeed. While CNN isn’t my go-to news source (BBC and NPR for me, as well), I find it reassuring that they’ve identified a problem and immediately corrected it. I expect news stories to occasionally be wrong, but I also expect my journalism sources to correct these errors as soon as they are aware of them. It seems to me that the lesson to learn from the OP is simply to never admit error or retract stories and then no one can point at you and say “see, see! even they admit it’s fake news!”

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/52 "2017-06-29T15:45:02Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Good thing BBC has never retracted a story! No way they would last nearly a hundred years if they did.

NPR is the gold standard. BBC is no better than any commercial broadcaster. It’s superficial crap.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/53 "2017-06-29T17:07:04Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> NPR is the gold standard. BBC is no better than any commercial broadcaster. It’s superficial crap.

NPR is my go-to-first for news but BBC World Service is quite good and a close second in my view.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/54 "2017-06-29T17:09:35Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Only this administration goes berserk over it, because this administration is built on a tower of lies.

They go berserk over it because they have been saying, “fake news, fake news, fake news” ad nauseum and the world has been saying, “you’re full of shit, you’re full of shit, you’re full of shit” right back ad nauseum.

So now they can point to one example and it is all the proof they need (in their tiny minds) that all news is obviously fake.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cnn/790065/55 "2017-06-29T17:09:47Z")

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I don’t have any single source of news. I’ve got 8 national/international news links bookmarked and 2 local. Two of those are aggregators that lead me to other sources.

Fox News and other right wing media don’t make the cut.

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