# Coach has disabled player deliberately hurt

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coach-has-disabled-player-deliberately-hurt/312677>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 15, 2005, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coach-has-disabled-player-deliberately-hurt/312677 "2005-07-15T17:39:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2005, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coach-has-disabled-player-deliberately-hurt/312677/41 "2005-07-16T15:05:19Z")

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Aye

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2005, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coach-has-disabled-player-deliberately-hurt/312677/42 "2005-07-16T15:07:51Z")

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> [@SlyFrog](#):
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> Actually, I really don’t care what Coldie calls the kid. It’s not really the label that’s important to me here, it’s the action.

It’s the attitude behind the words. He wants to be an insensitive jerk? Fine by me, but he should keep it to himself.

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2005, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coach-has-disabled-player-deliberately-hurt/312677/43 "2005-07-16T15:21:02Z")

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> [@coldie](#):
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> Excuuuuuuuse me. Sorry if I offend the PC Police. What you want me to say instead of “retard”?

How about just a long and poignant silence that conveys more intellect than any of your previous missives?

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2005, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coach-has-disabled-player-deliberately-hurt/312677/44 "2005-07-16T15:39:35Z")

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Actually, since T-ball is so massively non-competitive (though possibly the single most entertaining team sport to watch), I wonder if this coach isn’t more someone who just really hates mentally disabled people: I’ve seen this, people that just can’t stand being around someone who is mentally disabled–it’s an ugly, ugly side of human nature. Whatever “logical” reason he gave to the other child, his motivations may have had less to do with wanting to win, and more to do with just wanting the kid out of his sight and off his team. I don’t think this is more or less evil than the competition motive, but I think the motivation may be different than what is being assumed.

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**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2005, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coach-has-disabled-player-deliberately-hurt/312677/45 "2005-07-16T15:48:58Z")

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> [@Rilchiam](#):
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> People make mistakes. And it’s fucking T-ball. And don’t call people retards.

Calling someone a moron is quite acceptable in the pit.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2005, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coach-has-disabled-player-deliberately-hurt/312677/46 "2005-07-16T15:58:52Z")

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> [@coldie](#):
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> Excuuuuuuuse me. Sorry if I offend the PC Police. What you want me to say instead of “retard”?

Back away slowly. Are you trying to get the other foot in your mouth too?

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2005, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coach-has-disabled-player-deliberately-hurt/312677/47 "2005-07-16T16:03:30Z")

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> [@coldie](#):
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> Excuuuuuuuse me. Sorry if I offend the PC Police. What you want me to say instead of “retard”?

No, no, keep saying it! And anything else that pops into the pit of smegma you call your mind. By all means, spill it, let us see exactly what we’ve got here.

Heck, tell us what you think of other people the PC police want you to talk nice about. Don’t hold back, spew it all out, all those words they won’t let you say in polite society any more.

I’m sure you’ll receive the acclamation you seek.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2005, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coach-has-disabled-player-deliberately-hurt/312677/48 "2005-07-16T16:13:08Z")

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Un–f%\*#ing–believable.

I suggest first the pelting from a major league pitcher, then the stockade in the middle of town. Then I’d put his face on those little plastic shields they put in urinals and make every public establishment use them for one year.

And one more thing. He should be made to help the disabled for a year, as well.

What a pathetic excuse for a human being.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2005, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coach-has-disabled-player-deliberately-hurt/312677/49 "2005-07-16T16:22:47Z")

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‘PC’ really deserves a Godwin corollary of its own.

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**Author:** ![Fionn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Fionn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fionn)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2005, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coach-has-disabled-player-deliberately-hurt/312677/50 "2005-07-16T16:36:54Z")

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[This](http://www.heraldstandard.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=14869233&BRD=2280&PAG=461&dept_id=480247&rfi=6) is a more detailed article about the incident.

The coach has two daughters on the team. I wonder how he’ll explain to them why people now use the word “asshole” whenever he appears in a room, and why Daddy won’t be able to coach their team next year.

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**Author:** ![coldie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f9b8f/32.png) [@coldie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coldie)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2005, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coach-has-disabled-player-deliberately-hurt/312677/51 "2005-07-16T21:04:04Z")

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So I’m sure u all wouldn’t mind if a few “special” kids were mixed into ur kids’ activities with no special supervision.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2005, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coach-has-disabled-player-deliberately-hurt/312677/52 "2005-07-16T21:08:59Z")

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> [@coldie](#):
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> So I’m sure u all wouldn’t mind if a few “special” kids were mixed into ur kids’ activities with no special supervision.

You’re still here, aren’t you?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2005, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coach-has-disabled-player-deliberately-hurt/312677/53 "2005-07-16T21:10:33Z")

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> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#):
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> You’re still here, aren’t you?

For another 27 days, at most.

Personally, I expect his attention span won’t last that long.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2005, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coach-has-disabled-player-deliberately-hurt/312677/54 "2005-07-16T21:11:42Z")

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> [@grienspace](#):
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> Calling someone a moron is quite acceptable in the pit.

“Retard” and “moron” are not the same things, jackass.

**coldie** , if you have to ask, you’re better off venturing elsewhere. And it’s “you” and “your”.  
Buhbye now.

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**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2005, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coach-has-disabled-player-deliberately-hurt/312677/55 "2005-07-16T21:19:16Z")

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> [@coldie](#):
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> So I’m sure u all wouldn’t mind if a few “special” kids were mixed into ur kids’ activities with no special supervision.

Well, it depends. An adult-supervised T-Ball league certainly seems a good place to accomodate kids of different abilities: it’s as noncompetitive a game as organized sports gets.

Other activities I can think of are _not_ recommended for the cognitively impaired, at least not without the supervision of a responsible adult. The SDMB, for example. This, unlike T-Ball, is definitely not a place to keep running when you should stop.

That word you were looking for earlier, the one you should use? Neither PC nor non-PC, I’m afraid. It’s “Goodbye.” Spell it wrong, if you want. Just mean it.

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**Author:** ![Liz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/liz/32/17737_2.png) [@Liz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liz)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2005, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coach-has-disabled-player-deliberately-hurt/312677/56 "2005-07-16T21:20:47Z")

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It was at one time, **Guin** – “moron” was a classification of mental retardation.

Not that it matters re: **coldie**. He’s just a shithead.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2005, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coach-has-disabled-player-deliberately-hurt/312677/57 "2005-07-16T21:21:54Z")

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> [@coldie](#):
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> So I’m sure u all wouldn’t mind if a few “special” kids were mixed into ur kids’ activities with no special supervision.

Is English your first language?

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**Author:** ![Liz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/liz/32/17737_2.png) [@Liz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liz)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2005, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coach-has-disabled-player-deliberately-hurt/312677/58 "2005-07-16T21:23:08Z")

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> [@Larry Borgia](#):
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> Is English your first language?

It’s quite obvious that l33t is his native tongue – try being a little more sensitive to his culture, sir.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2005, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coach-has-disabled-player-deliberately-hurt/312677/59 "2005-07-16T21:26:17Z")

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> [@chatelaine](#):
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> It was at one time, **Guin** – “moron” was a classification of mental retardation.
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> Not that it matters re: **coldie**. He’s just a shithead.

I did not know that. However, “retarded” is still used, as in “mentally retarded”, and while it may eventually become just another insult like “idiot” or “moron”, I’m in no hurry to help it along.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2005, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coach-has-disabled-player-deliberately-hurt/312677/60 "2005-07-16T21:34:02Z")

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> [@photopat](#):
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> This coach should get the equivalent treatment. Since he’s an adult, find another adult baseball player who can pitch at his head and groin. Then make him run the bases.

How about Ben Christiansen?

From [here](http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily/05-99/05-01-99/zzzspcap.htm):

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> Wichita State’s Ben Christiansen, who hit an opposing player with a warmup pitch last week, was suspended for the rest of the season yesterday by the Missouri Valley Conference. Christensen hit Evansville’s Anthony Molina in the head while warming up before a game on April 23. Molina was reported to be at least 15 feet from home plate when he was hit. The suspension keeps Christensen out for the remainder of the regular season, the conference tournament and the NCAA tournament. A junior right-hander, Christensen is 9-1 for the Shockers, who are ranked seventh in the Collegiate Baseball poll.

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