# Coaches Reprimanded for 'Crybaby Award' **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 4, 2004, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coaches-reprimanded-for-crybaby-award/243515 "2004-05-04T20:14:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2004, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coaches-reprimanded-for-crybaby-award/243515/61 "2004-05-05T17:15:23Z")
> [@jarbabyj](#): > > county, I’m not the first nor the last to say this, but you are an irredeemable asshole. **county** may or may not be an asshole, but I think (s)he has a sense of humor. Make a SNL skit out of this (Belushi/Ackroyd era). At some level of whininess this can be a funny skit. “But I waaaaaaana play nowwwwwwwww”. The real life situation here is so pathetic that comic relief is something that I also found myself yearning for. ---
**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2004, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coaches-reprimanded-for-crybaby-award/243515/62 "2004-05-05T17:26:04Z")
> [@Master Wang-Ka](#): > > Anybody see the followup to this story? [Click Here for the latest news on it…](http://www.kyw1060.com/news_story_detail.cfm?newsitemid=37383) From the story… > [@](#): > > The teachers’ union also says the firing is too harsh. Gotta remember this the next time I am arguing with someone who thinks unions are great. Fuck the teachers’ union. ---
**Author:** ![county](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@county](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/county)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2004, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coaches-reprimanded-for-crybaby-award/243515/63 "2004-05-05T17:29:24Z")
SNL already did this only they had a whole family of “Whiners” - OOOOh Noooo! ---
**Author:** ![county](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@county](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/county)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2004, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coaches-reprimanded-for-crybaby-award/243515/64 "2004-05-05T17:34:28Z")
> [@vetbridge](#): > > From the story… > Gotta remember this the next time I am arguing with someone who thinks unions are great. Fuck the teachers’ union. Yeah right. The union is doing it’s job. If they said hey, fire the guy, well they would be management or perhaps be you. But they are not, they are the union with a responsibility to the guy they represent. You are on a fucking internet board and you don’t have all the information. Perhaps the guy deserves firing, perhaps not but you don’t know enough about the situation to judge. (although that is certainly not slowing your ignorant ass down) ---
**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2004, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coaches-reprimanded-for-crybaby-award/243515/65 "2004-05-05T18:18:11Z")
> [@county](#): > > Yeah right. The union is doing it’s job. If they said hey, fire the guy, well they would be management or perhaps be you. But they are not, they are the union with a responsibility to the guy they represent. You are on a fucking internet board and you don’t have all the information. Perhaps the guy deserves firing, perhaps not but you don’t know enough about the situation to judge. (although that is certainly not slowing your ignorant ass down) Hey smegmabreath…It turns out my statement that bunched your panties (fuck the teachers’ union) is my general consensus on unions. The admitedly _very little_ info that I have about this particular case hase no bearing on my feelings toward unions in general. Perhaps my view of unions is defensible, perhaps not **but you don’t know enough about the situation to judge. (although that is certainly not slowing your ignorant ass down)**. Oh, and BTW, thanks for pointing out the SNL skit. I musta seen it long ago and memories were triggered. ---
**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2004, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coaches-reprimanded-for-crybaby-award/243515/66 "2004-05-05T18:21:09Z")
> [@county](#): > > Yeah right. The union is doing it’s job. If they said hey, fire the guy, well they would be management or perhaps be you. But they are not, they are the union with a responsibility to the guy they represent. You are on a fucking internet board and you don’t have all the information. Perhaps the guy deserves firing, **perhaps not but you don’t know enough about the situation to judge. (although that is certainly not slowing your ignorant ass down)** (bolding mine) Hey smegmabreath…It turns out my statement that bunched your panties (fuck the teachers’ union) is my general consensus on unions. The admitedly _very little_ info that I have about this particular case hase no bearing on my feelings toward unions in general. Perhaps my view of unions is defensible, perhaps not **but you don’t know enough about the situation to judge. (although that is certainly not slowing your ignorant ass down)**. Oh, and BTW, thanks for pointing out the SNL skit. I musta seen it long ago and memories were triggered. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2004, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coaches-reprimanded-for-crybaby-award/243515/67 "2004-05-05T18:26:47Z")
> [@Libertarian](#): > > Maybe the kid was indeed a crybaby who constantly whined about everything and was encouraged on by his dad. Which of course totally justifies inviting him down the ceremony and humiliating him. :rolleyes: Add me to the “if that was my kid the coach would have a broken jaw” list. Totally over the line. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2004, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coaches-reprimanded-for-crybaby-award/243515/68 "2004-05-05T18:27:57Z")
> [@scout1222](#): > > Oh, God! The trophy had a baby figurine on it! ::cries:: > I’d love to see a picture of it. Alright you fucking crybaby, here you go. 😉 [http://www.usatoday.com/sports/preps/basketball/2004-05-05-crybaby-award\_x.htm](http://www.usatoday.com/sports/preps/basketball/2004-05-05-crybaby-award_x.htm) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2004, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coaches-reprimanded-for-crybaby-award/243515/69 "2004-05-05T18:32:22Z")
> [@jarbabyj](#): > > And folks continue to wonder why Columbine happened. Actually, according to the official report, Columbine happened because Eric Harris was a psychopath. It had nothing to do with bullying. Cite: [http://slate.msn.com/id/2099203](http://slate.msn.com/id/2099203) As for the OP. I’m a peaceful man, but if a coach did that to one of my kids you’d have to drag me off of him. Kids whine. It’s annoying as hell. But if you’re serious about discipline and character building you can shut them down. In the Pochacco household all requests that are not delivered in polite and pleasing tones are automatically ignored. Repeated whining gets you a reprimand or a punishment. It sounds to me like the coach was too much of a chickenshit to exert proper authority over his team. So he tries to get the mob to do his disciplining for him. What a passive-aggressive little wuss. ---
**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2004, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coaches-reprimanded-for-crybaby-award/243515/70 "2004-05-05T18:33:24Z")
> [@Hugh G. Rekshun](#): > > Yes, Blowero, evil does exist. Strawman. I never said “evil does not exist.” > [@](#): > > Or are you saying that perhaps these individuals were just poor, tortured, misguided souls that had to have their revenge? Nope, I didn’t say that either. > [@](#): > > Evil? I don’t know. I do know evil exists in a lot of people and they could not care less about you or your family and would just as soon shot you in the face and take all your stuff as look at you. I might even go so far to say that at one time I was evil. I did time once, many years ago, for some things I did in my life. All I can say is thank god we have prisons. I have looked in the eyes of people that are evil and I have heard them talk about the havoc they would wreak when they were released. Not as payback, but just because that is what they want to do. I reject your idea. That’s the easy way out - never question what we do as a society - just blame the “evil” criminals. Murder, theft, and domestic violence rates are higher in the inner cities? That’s just 'cause they’re all “evil”, right? No need for social equality or sensitivity to minority issues - if they do something bad, it’s just 'cause they’re “evil”. Just throw 'em in jail - that’ll fix it. Let’s have accountability, by all means. But please don’t ignore the factors that influence people’s behavior. ---
**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2004, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coaches-reprimanded-for-crybaby-award/243515/71 "2004-05-05T18:44:58Z")
> [@vetbridge](#): > > Gotta remember this the next time I am arguing with someone who thinks unions are great. Fuck the teachers’ union. I disagree with the opinion of the union in this case as well. But how you get from _one_ statement by _one_ local of the teacher’s union, to “Fuck the teacher’s union” is beyond me. You’re just ignorant. You union-bashers make me sick. Open your eyes and see what’s going on in corporations like WalMart where there’s no union protection. I’d love to see one of you smartass “down with unions” jerks work a whole day for minimum wage, then be forced to stay overtime for no extra pay, and THEN say “fuck the unions.” ---
**Author:** ![Mercury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e95f7d/32.png) [@Mercury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mercury)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2004, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coaches-reprimanded-for-crybaby-award/243515/72 "2004-05-05T18:54:26Z")
I read the article **World Eater** linked to, and it appears that the coach is 24. Ok, most of the people around my age are mature enough to be a coach, but the age difference between the coach and the kids wasn’t huge. Perhaps, he had difficulty being an authority figure and his own immaturity clouded his judgment. Then I read that he’s a special ed teacher. WTF? ---
**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2004, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coaches-reprimanded-for-crybaby-award/243515/73 "2004-05-05T19:12:21Z")
> [@blowero](#): > > I disagree with the opinion of the union in this case as well. But how you get from _one_ statement by _one_ local of the teacher’s union, to “Fuck the teacher’s union” is beyond me. You’re just ignorant. You union-bashers make me sick. Open your eyes and see what’s going on in corporations like WalMart where there’s no union protection. I’d love to see one of you smartass “down with unions” jerks work a whole day for minimum wage, then be forced to stay overtime for no extra pay, and THEN say “fuck the unions.” I get from _one_ statement by _one_ local of the teacher’s union, to “Fuck the teacher’s union” because I have contemplated the topic all of my adult life. I worked 2 years doing plumbing in new homes for minimum wage. Many weeks I worked 50 or more hours and got paid for 40. At the time I was happy to have a job. I could have left that job and sought other employment if I wanted. I have turned down employment rather than join a union. I have made that choice due to a lifetime of observations that have led me to decide that I would rather refine my abilities such that I could demand a salary that I feel is appropriate. So fuck off **blowero**. You union supporters make me sick. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![capacitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@capacitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capacitor)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2004, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coaches-reprimanded-for-crybaby-award/243515/74 "2004-05-05T19:22:06Z")
What is this? A kid getting a Crybaby Award for all but singing John Fogerty’s ‘Centerfield’? This is sad. ---
**Author:** ![scout1222](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@scout1222](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scout1222)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2004, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coaches-reprimanded-for-crybaby-award/243515/75 "2004-05-05T20:28:28Z")
Oh, man. I can just see that thing proudly displayed on a mantle. ---
**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2004, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coaches-reprimanded-for-crybaby-award/243515/76 "2004-05-05T21:00:20Z")
> [@vetbridge](#): > > I have made that choice due to a lifetime of observations that have led me to decide that I would rather refine my abilities such that I could demand a salary that I feel is appropriate. So if being a teacher doesn’t pay enough, don’t be a teacher, huh? Yeah, great solution. ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2004, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coaches-reprimanded-for-crybaby-award/243515/77 "2004-05-05T21:24:51Z")
> [@vetbridge](#): > > I get from _one_ statement by _one_ local of the teacher’s union, to “Fuck the teacher’s union” because I have contemplated the topic all of my adult life. > > I worked 2 years doing plumbing in new homes for minimum wage. Many weeks I worked 50 or more hours and got paid for 40. At the time I was happy to have a job. I could have left that job and sought other employment if I wanted. > > I have turned down employment rather than join a union. I have made that choice due to a lifetime of observations that have led me to decide that I would rather refine my abilities such that I could demand a salary that I feel is appropriate. > > So fuck off **blowero**. You union supporters make me sick. 😉 I’ve never been a plumber, so I cannot speak for plumbers. I have been a teacher, and I will tell you that teachers’ unions and advocacy groups come in damn handy when some asshead of an administrator decides to screw you sideways for his own convenience, and you can’t just quit because you’re obligated to a year-long contract… and he offers to violently fuck up your reputation in the field, make it harder for you to find another job, if you don’t knuckle under to his demands. Admittedly, it can work the other way, too – a guy who deserves to get fired may well not be if the union can put sufficient pressure on the district. To say that unions are always good OR bad falls into the same category with the statement “All dark-skinned persons are drug abusers,” i.e., a buncha crap. ---
**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2004, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coaches-reprimanded-for-crybaby-award/243515/78 "2004-05-05T21:33:48Z")
> [@Master Wang-Ka](#): > > To say that unions are always good OR bad falls into the same category with the statement “All dark-skinned persons are drug abusers,” i.e., a buncha crap. Exactly. I can tell you a million things wrong with unions. But just saying “they’re all evil” and banning them wouldn’t improve things. ---
**Author:** ![Lando\_Griffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f17d59/32.png) [@Lando\_Griffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lando_Griffin)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2004, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coaches-reprimanded-for-crybaby-award/243515/79 "2004-05-05T21:55:32Z")
Did anybody catch this little nugget from the USA Today article: > [@](#): > > [Superintendant] Coyle said the coach had received a Crybaby Award as a teen while playing in a summer recreation league and that it was meant to recognize athletic ability, leadership skills and vocal participation. > > He wanted to honor Philo, who was a starter for most of the season on a team that won its league championship, not ridicule him, according to Coyle. > > … > > He thought he was doing something in a positive way," Coyle said. WTF? I’m not sure whether or not to call BS on this part… ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2004, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coaches-reprimanded-for-crybaby-award/243515/80 "2004-05-05T21:59:54Z")
> [@Lando Griffin](#): > > Did anybody catch this little nugget from the USA Today article: > > WTF? I’m not sure whether or not to call BS on this part… Dunno, he _must_ believe it, because he would be insane If he thought that was a good excuse for what he did. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coaches-reprimanded-for-crybaby-award/243515.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coaches-reprimanded-for-crybaby-award/243515.md?page=5)