# Cobra Commander vs Serpentor vs Destro. Best Leader? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 2, 2005, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cobra-commander-vs-serpentor-vs-destro-best-leader/287905 "2005-02-02T01:33:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![slortar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@slortar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slortar)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cobra-commander-vs-serpentor-vs-destro-best-leader/287905/21 "2005-02-02T15:34:26Z")
It’s funny this has come up now…I’ve been reading \Cartoon Action Hour\ recently. Great game. Having said that, \Venger\ would mop the floor with all these pussies. ---
**Author:** ![slortar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@slortar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slortar)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cobra-commander-vs-serpentor-vs-destro-best-leader/287905/22 "2005-02-02T15:35:46Z")
> [@slortar](#): > > It’s funny this has come up now…I’ve been reading [Cartoon Action Hour](http://www.zmangames.com/products/CAH/) recently. Great game. > > Having said that, [Venger](http://members.aol.com/DDrealm/venger.jpg) would mop the floor with all these pussies. Too much html coding makes Slortar a dull boy. Fixed links. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cobra-commander-vs-serpentor-vs-destro-best-leader/287905/23 "2005-02-02T15:53:45Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > [Conan the Adventurer](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0315429/) > > A great cartoon series, actually. There were interweaving plots and continuity. I really wish I coudl find some episodes of it. Available on DVD, at least in the UK. ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cobra-commander-vs-serpentor-vs-destro-best-leader/287905/24 "2005-02-02T17:02:21Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > Maaaaaybe. I googled the villain from the show and found [this](http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Taping/7814/toys36.jpg) image and while Zula looks familiar, none of the other characters do. And Wrath-Amon’s a skeleton in those pictures, not a snake. > > I also seem to remember some sort of Native American type character as well as a woman warrior and a third shaman type that aren’t on that page at all. [conan hijack] Wrath-Ammon looks like a lizard to me…the large picture at the bottom of the skeleton dude isn’t wrath-ammon, it’s Skulker, obviously a copy of skeletor. It’s possible skulker was never on the show, many many toys based on shows add characters that were never there. The native american figure you’re thinking of I think IS Zula. He was based of an African tribesman of some sort, and had the abilty to control animals. His weapon was at first a bola, then it was forged into a boomarang. Yes, there was a woman, Jasmine I think, but she had throwing stars as a weapon. The shamen was Greywolf, who is in that photo. He was a wizard of air and hada a magic carpet, and two wolves, who were his brother and sister (also wizards) under a curse. In a few episodes they were able to be human again, but they always went back to wolf at the end. Conan also had a baby phoenix as a sidekick. He became a full grown phoenix a couple times and was actually pretty bad-ass (at those times, otherwise he was annoying as hell) There may have been more, but it’s been a LONG time since i saw the show. [/conan hijack] ---
**Author:** ![RandomLetters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8edcca/32.png) [@RandomLetters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandomLetters)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cobra-commander-vs-serpentor-vs-destro-best-leader/287905/25 "2005-02-02T17:06:03Z")
> [@Ranchoth](#): > > Yeah, the cartoon Cobra Commander turned out to be… > > …a mutated snake-guy from a lost civilization in the Himalayas, or Antarctica, or something. That’s odd. We all know that the Serpent people mostly lived in North America, and that Antarctica would have been home to the Old Ones. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cobra-commander-vs-serpentor-vs-destro-best-leader/287905/26 "2005-02-02T17:07:08Z")
I’m pretty sure there was a Native American character in addition to Zula but everything else you’ve mentioned sounds about right. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cobra-commander-vs-serpentor-vs-destro-best-leader/287905/27 "2005-02-02T17:11:17Z")
Okay, nevermind. A little more googling and it looks like I was misremembering Greywolf as two characters instead of one. Thanks, **bouv**. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cobra-commander-vs-serpentor-vs-destro-best-leader/287905/28 "2005-02-02T18:02:12Z")
…Destro. He’s the best bad guy because you can respect him despite his villainy. Honorable. Loving. Funny. AMAZING fashion sense. See Destro’s goal has never been to really defeat the Joes or take over the world. It’s to keep the battle going because he profits from it. Remember he’s a business man first and foremost. The cartoon is surprisingly good. The comic was surprisingly good as well. The toys rock. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cobra-commander-vs-serpentor-vs-destro-best-leader/287905/29 "2005-02-02T18:21:43Z")
> [@Push You Down](#): > > …Destro. > > He’s the best bad guy because you can respect him despite his villainy. Honorable. Loving. Funny. AMAZING fashion sense. “AMAZING fashion sense”?!? :eek: :eek: No. Destro has many fine qualities, _buuuuttt…_ > [@](#): > > “I notice a lack of polyester suits in your size…” ~~ **Destro** > “Hrmph! Fashion snobbery from someone who still wears a gold chain with an open shirt!” ~~ **Cobra Commander** ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cobra-commander-vs-serpentor-vs-destro-best-leader/287905/30 "2005-02-02T18:27:17Z")
To be fair, the second Destro action figure had a really awesome costume: the black suit with red ascot and half-cape, and the golden mask. Some of the later figures have had cool looks as well, but unfortunately, everyone remembers the 1983 figure with the open shirt, wide round lapels, and gold chain. _(shudders)_ ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cobra-commander-vs-serpentor-vs-destro-best-leader/287905/31 "2005-02-03T01:09:36Z")
> [@RobuSensei](#): > > Really, I’d go with the Commander (comic book version). What kind of sang froid (sp?) does this guy have to be willing to wear a helmet lined with plastic explosive? Oh, Jesus. You about knocked me out of my chair with that one. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cobra-commander-vs-serpentor-vs-destro-best-leader/287905/32 "2005-02-03T07:17:58Z")
> [@slortar](#): > > It’s funny this has come up now…I’ve been reading Cartoon Action Hour recently. Great game. Dang it, **slortar!** Now you’ve got me HOOKED! 😃 (Any RPG with rules for the end-of-cartoon mini-sermon is a must-buy in my book. 😉 ) ---
**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cobra-commander-vs-serpentor-vs-destro-best-leader/287905/33 "2005-02-03T07:57:01Z")
> [@Tengu](#): > > Zartan! I was going to say Zartan. He played by his own rules, though. A rogue, if you will. Not one to lead a crack team of terrorists, or even Cobra, but more a small band of mercenaries. Much like _Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome_ or _Priscilla, Queen of the Desert_. Oh yeah. Y’all do realize that the “G.I. Joe” cartoon is the third gayest show in the history of animation, right? Right after “He-Man and the Masters of the Universe,” and “The Animated Adventures of Four Guys Having Oral and Anal Sex With Four Other Guys?” Not that there’s anything _wrong_ with that, mind you; I’m just sayin’. Shipwreck, with his shirt opened to his navel and his little sailor hat and gloves and neatly trimmed beard. Zartan, surrounded by shirtless hairy guys in leather pants and vests. The fey Cobra Commander with his hag The Baroness. I could go on and on… ---
**Author:** ![slortar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@slortar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slortar)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cobra-commander-vs-serpentor-vs-destro-best-leader/287905/34 "2005-02-03T12:25:25Z")
> [@rjung](#): > > Dang it, **slortar!** Now you’ve got me HOOKED! 😃 > > (Any RPG with rules for the end-of-cartoon mini-sermon is a must-buy in my book. 😉 ) Oh, hell, yeah. I’ve been on a complete buying binge of these things recently. Wish they’d put out more. 🙂 Have you gotten to the appendix where they discuss viewer popularity and the horrible things the marketing department can do to your character yet? That’s my favorite optional rule. _GM rolls dice_ GM: “Sorry, Bob. The marketing department has decided to release a Beach Fun Thundarr for Christmas this year. Thundarr’ll have to do this fight in bermuda shorts with a harpoon attachment on his hand.” Bob: “#\*@($#@#@!!!” ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cobra-commander-vs-serpentor-vs-destro-best-leader/287905/35 "2005-02-03T12:55:12Z")
> [@SolGrundy](#): > > Oh yeah. Y’all do realize that the “G.I. Joe” cartoon is the third gayest show in the history of animation, right? Right after “He-Man and the Masters of the Universe,” and “The Animated Adventures of Four Guys Having Oral and Anal Sex With Four Other Guys?” Not that there’s anything _wrong_ with that, mind you; I’m just sayin’. Shipwreck, with his shirt opened to his navel and his little sailor hat and gloves and neatly trimmed beard. Zartan, surrounded by shirtless hairy guys in leather pants and vests. The fey Cobra Commander with his hag The Baroness. I could go on and on… I once saw an stop-motion animated video online where someone took the action figures of Shipwreck (sailor), Spirit (Native American), Wild Bill (cowboy), Tollbooth (construction worker), and a Gung Ho with the clothes painted black (“leatherman” with cap, handlebar mustache, and open vest with no shirt), and made them dance to “Y.M.C.A.” by the Village People. It was pretty hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cobra-commander-vs-serpentor-vs-destro-best-leader/287905/36 "2005-02-03T21:13:29Z")
> [@slortar](#): > > Have you gotten to the appendix where they discuss viewer popularity and the horrible things the marketing department can do to your character yet? Unfortunately, I just ordered a $70 book on satellite operations (work-related), so my Amazon shopping has to be curtailed a bit for the nonce. Love the rule, though… 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cobra-commander-vs-serpentor-vs-destro-best-leader/287905.md?page=1)