# Coca Cola in Britain **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** soda-softdrinks\ **Created:** [September 4, 2012, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coca-cola-in-britain/633660 "2012-09-04T17:59:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Hogfather65](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@Hogfather65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hogfather65)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coca-cola-in-britain/633660/41 "2012-09-06T13:51:10Z")
Germans:confused::smack::dubious: What do they know about Scotish soft drinks …😃 ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coca-cola-in-britain/633660/42 "2012-09-06T14:00:00Z")
> [@Floater](#): > > **(\*)** Count me out, please! > > Julmust and påskmust (the same stuff sold at Easter) is a vile misuse of malted barley that could have been used to make a good beer. My opinion about people drinking the stuff is that they do it out of tradition, totally disregarding whatever qualities it has (or has not). Oh I’m with you, I hate the stuff. I think the tradition argument is a good one, along with the similar nostalgia/reminder of childhood. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coca-cola-in-britain/633660/43 "2012-09-06T14:30:49Z")
> [@Hogfather65](#): > > Got a bottle on my desk now 🙂 _steals **Hogfather** ’s bottle_ The invention of kalimotxo/calimocho(1), and with it the discovery that you can take almost any recipe calling for gaseosa, use a black cola instead and it will work, has affected sales of gaseosa in Spain, but it still has a big chunk of the market, specially in the summer. Same as sangría used to be made in situ but you can now buy it bottled, tinto de verano (red wine with gaseosa) and rubia de verano (beer with gaseosa) are also sold pre-bottled now; so far they’re very much a local product. 1: according to legend, a Spanish student in the US was asked to make sangría, but that was impossible as the recipe calls for gaseosa, which he couldn’t find. He tried several substitutes until finally hitting upon Coca-cola, but of course the new mix needed a new name. ---
**Author:** ![Hogfather65](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@Hogfather65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hogfather65)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coca-cola-in-britain/633660/44 "2012-09-06T15:02:30Z")
[snip] > [@Nava](#): > > _steals **Hogfather** ’s bottle_ [/snip] Hey I wondered were it went to…:smack: ---
**Author:** ![Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce7236/32.png) [@Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mona_Lisa_Simpson)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coca-cola-in-britain/633660/45 "2012-09-06T19:02:33Z")
Hmm, I could have sworn I posted to this thread since the OP. Very interesting, I guess it is possible Clair Beuchamps Randall Fraser might not have had Coca Cola more than once. But she definitely would have had a chance to have other carbonated soft drinks. So, I don’t know what the author is getting at. Honestly, now she is about to sleep with Louis XVth…guess you can’t just be a time traveller you have to be a star-fucker too. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coca-cola-in-britain/633660/46 "2012-09-06T19:55:06Z")
Claire was mostly raised by her archeologist uncle in remote locations, where Coke would’ve been even harder to come by. And she really wasn’t thrilled with her encounter with Louis. StG ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coca-cola-in-britain/633660/47 "2012-09-07T01:35:08Z")
> [@Floater](#): > > **(\*)** Julmust and påskmust (the same stuff sold at Easter) is a vile misuse of malted barley that could have been used to make a good beer. I’ve never had either, but I suppose they taste a lot like **this**? > **[Malta (soft drink)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malta_(soft_drink))** > > Malta is a lightly carbonated, non-alcoholic malt beverage brewed from barley, hops, and water. Corn and caramel color may also be added. > Maltín Polar is a popular non-alcoholic drink manufactured initially in Venezuela. It is a common drink to accompany breakfast and lunch or at anytime throughout the day or night. \[citation needed\] There are many brands of malta in Venezuela, including Caracas, Regional, and others. > Malta India is a non-alcoholic beverage drink. Malta India is a Puerto Rican... In Toronto, there are lots of stores that stock Caribbean foods. They always carry a variety of malt beverages. I quite like them. (I guess in the States, they’d refer to them as “near beer.”) I was actually introduced to malt beverages by a Dutchman who attended my Anglican church in Moscow (!). Russians have a similar drink, _kvas_, which is made by allowing rye bread to ferment. It may be an acquired taste, but it’s quite sweet and fizzy. Drunk cold in the summertime, it’s very refreshing. (It’s also used in making chilled summer soups.) ---
**Author:** ![Floater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dc4da7/32.png) [@Floater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Floater)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coca-cola-in-britain/633660/48 "2012-09-07T09:29:41Z")
It seems it’s something similar: [Julmust - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julmust) ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coca-cola-in-britain/633660/49 "2012-09-07T12:41:55Z")
It may not have been extremely popular, but Coca Cola had an overseas push well before 1940. The book _For God, Country, and Coca Cola_ outlines this (and the fight, for instance, to get Coca Cola reclassified as something other than a “limonade”, which is how the French pigeonholed it). as this page makes clear, Coca Cola was going overseas just after WWI: [http://heritage.coca-cola.com/](http://heritage.coca-cola.com/) It also makes clear that Coca Cola saw the opportunity, with many Americans overseas, to get the product where they were. So having someone in Britain first encountering it in the early 1940s is perfectly reasonable. ---
**Author:** ![Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce7236/32.png) [@Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mona_Lisa_Simpson)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coca-cola-in-britain/633660/50 "2012-09-08T07:09:43Z")
> [@StGermain](#): > > Claire was mostly raised by her archeologist uncle in remote locations, where Coke would’ve been even harder to come by. > > And she really wasn’t thrilled with her encounter with Louis. > > StG Quite the Username/ Thread content combination. I don’t think your name sake was too thrilled with that encounter with Louis XV either! ---
**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coca-cola-in-britain/633660/51 "2012-09-10T05:40:29Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > The invention of kalimotxo/calimocho(1), and with it the discovery that you can take almost any recipe calling for gaseosa, use a black cola instead and it will work, has affected sales of gaseosa in Spain, but it still has a big chunk of the market, specially in the summer. Same as sangría used to be made in situ but you can now buy it bottled, tinto de verano (red wine with gaseosa) and rubia de verano (beer with gaseosa) are also sold pre-bottled now; so far they’re very much a local product. > 1: according to legend, a Spanish student in the US was asked to make sangría, but that was impossible as the recipe calls for gaseosa, which he couldn’t find. He tried several substitutes until finally hitting upon Coca-cola, but of course the new mix needed a new name. I had to Google all these things to figure out what you were talking about. We have sangria here, but it’s typically red wine mixed with fruit and fruit juice, not carbonated (though if someone wanted to make it carbonated, they would add Sprite or carbonated water, not cola). _Gaseosa_, according to the article on [_tinto de verano_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinto_de_verano), is a lightly flavored and sweetened carbonated lemonade that “can be replicated by mixing Sprite or 7-Up with carbonated water.” And _kalimotxo_ is [red wine mixed with Coke](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalimotxo)? Seriously??? Who would drink that? ---
**Author:** ![ducati](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cc9497/32.png) [@ducati](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ducati)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coca-cola-in-britain/633660/52 "2012-09-10T14:36:07Z")
Here in Atlanta, GA we have of course, Coca Cola headquarters. Years ago - in 1991 -they decided to create a tourist attraction called the [World of Coca Cola](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_of_Coca-Cola). It’s really just a[propaganda machine](http://www.worldofcoca-cola.com/)for Coke, with a few old signs and memorabilia here and there; the story of Coke is not complicated really, but I for one would like to see more historical items and pictures than they have. They abandoned the old one and built a new one in 2007, and while it is big and grand, it’s just cloyingly sweet and annoying without giving much true history at all. However. The coolest aspect - and only reason to visit- is the final stop on the “tour”. The “Taste It!” room contains dozens of fountains serving Coca Cola products from all over the world. You can sample 64 of the most hideous, egregious beverage mistakes ever made that just happen to be extremely popular with Asians, South Americans, Europeans, and more. [Beverly](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverly_(drink))? I’ve had poison that tasted better. Wiki says of the 2,000 people who sample it every day, only 5 like it! But what do I know? My unsophisticated palate grew up in Nashville chugging all the [Pop Shoppe]([http://www.thepopshoppe.com/index2.html#/The](http://www.thepopshoppe.com/index2.html#/The) Pop Shoppe Story/)flavors I could grab! A case of pop, and a big can of [Charles Chips](http://www.charleschips.com/about-potato-chips.php), and you’ve a weekend my friend!😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coca-cola-in-britain/633660.md?page=2)