# Cocktails

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cocktails/787562>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 27, 2017, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cocktails/787562 "2017-05-27T21:11:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
**Page:** 4

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cocktails/787562/61 "2017-06-03T21:35:04Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> We love Carpano Antica in our Manhattans but another favorite vermouth for them is Dolin Rouge. It’s not quite as sweet and perhaps a bit more of the spices. Goes great with a good rye.
> 
> Speaking of Dolin, their dry and blanc vermouths are great as well for gin and vodka martinis. A nice summer martini is Dolin Blanc, vodka and a bit of orange bitters. 😃

My current favorite vermouth for a rye Manhattan is [Hammer and Tongs’ L’Afrique](http://www.seriouseats.com/2014/05/best-new-american-vermouth-hammer-tongs-interrobang-matthaisson-imbue-harris-vya-aperitif.html). It is also quite pleasant by itself. Also nice using a high rye bourbon but I’m a heathen.

I think its flavors are overpowered though by my favorite gins in a martini.

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**Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cocktails/787562/62 "2017-06-03T23:34:27Z")

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> [@Pork\_Rind](#):
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> Well, if you have the taste for ginger beer and lime, why not try an [Italian Buck](http://punchdrink.com/recipes/italian-buck/)? It’s my hot summer day go-to. Cunard, Amaro Montenegro, lime juice and ginger beer.

I’d be all for it, but Cynar is Satan’s ball sweat in liqueur form. No thanks.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk

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**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cocktails/787562/63 "2017-06-04T01:40:33Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> I’d be all for it, but Cynar is Satan’s ball sweat in liqueur form. No thanks.
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> Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk

If that is true then all I have to say is ”Hail Satan." Cynar is glorious even neat.

ETA: looking back at my original post, all I can think is, “Cunard?! For god’s sake Autocorrect, get your shit together.”

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cocktails/787562/64 "2017-06-05T03:18:37Z")

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[Pimm’s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pimm's)Cup is my go-to summer drink; I just made a batch today. You can keep the mint in or leave it out (I’m not a fan of mint; YMMV). You should put in the strawberries and cucumber because then it counts as salad.

We don’t have the same sparkling lemonade as in the UK, so I use a mixture of Pelligrino Limonata and diet ginger ale. Polar Half and Half soda is also good, if you can’t get the Pelligrino.

I was going to include a recipe, but the ones I found online all call for Sprite or 7-up. Don’t use them, they are too damn sweet.

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cocktails/787562/65 "2017-06-05T03:21:53Z")

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> [@stillownedbysetters](#):
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> It is an entirely different experience, isn’t? So good and refreshing without any danger of a brain freeze. 😊

Oh, the brain freeze doesn’t bother me (in fact on a hot day…). The difference for me in this one was the quality of the tequila and the use of fresh lime juice and simple syrup, rather than a mix (which is the norm when you’re out and gives me instant heartburn).

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**Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cocktails/787562/66 "2017-06-05T20:02:53Z")

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I’ve recently started adding [rhubarb bitters](https://www.amazon.com/Fee-Brothers-Rhubarb-Bitters-5oz/dp/B001D1FPSW?th=1) to my gin and tonic. I highly recommend it.

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**Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cocktails/787562/67 "2017-06-05T20:15:25Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> We won’t even mention that J&B is a crappy **Scotch,** not a bourbon.
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> Man, when idols fall they fall _hard_.

In his defense, a manhattan made with J&B was emphatically not what he wanted.

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**Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cocktails/787562/68 "2017-06-05T20:28:26Z")

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Probably the nicest cocktail I had was that one where they put butter in the whiskey (Oban 12, neat).

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2017, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cocktails/787562/69 "2017-06-13T02:41:49Z")

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> [@GrumpyBunny](#):
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> [Pimm’s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pimm's)Cup is my go-to summer drink; I just made a batch today. You can keep the mint in or leave it out (I’m not a fan of mint; YMMV). You should put in the strawberries and cucumber because then it counts as salad.
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> We don’t have the same sparkling lemonade as in the UK, so I use a mixture of Pelligrino Limonata and diet ginger ale. Polar Half and Half soda is also good, if you can’t get the Pelligrino.
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> I was going to include a recipe, but the ones I found online all call for Sprite or 7-up. Don’t use them, they are too damn sweet.

Pimm’s cup is great; it works pretty well with the Sunkist sparkling lemonade, even if it’s not strictly accurate. The “lemonade” in the UK is pretty much like 7up

And anyway, if you want to hook it up authentically, you pretty much have to build a fruit salad in your glass or punch bowl - apples, strawberries, oranges, cucumbers, etc…

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