# Coffee is literally Magic!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee-is-literally-magic/1014166>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** coffee\
**Created:** [February 11, 2025, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee-is-literally-magic/1014166 "2025-02-11T12:38:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![GaryM](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garym/32/241_2.png) [@GaryM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaryM)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee-is-literally-magic/1014166/21 "2025-02-11T14:59:47Z")

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> [@yendis](#):
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> since the ‘bean’ is in fact the stone inside a berry.

So is coffee a fruit drink? Or a Smoothie?

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee-is-literally-magic/1014166/22 "2025-02-11T17:16:58Z")

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Being able to better appreciate magic is one of the best advantages of being stupid.

Where did that rabbit come from? I’m calling the cops!

Maybe wizards brew potions. But they started with beer. I love coffee, but rarely put it up my sleeve.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee-is-literally-magic/1014166/23 "2025-02-11T17:27:13Z")

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{GREEN EGGS AND HAM MEME} 💚

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee-is-literally-magic/1014166/24 "2025-02-11T17:40:07Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> What is the right term for cream, sugar, cinnamon, etc., that someone might put into their coffee? Are those properly called add-ons? Mix-ins? Condiments? Adulterants, adjuvants, ingredients, accessories? Something else?

I call them “additives” or “improvements”.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee-is-literally-magic/1014166/25 "2025-02-11T22:39:25Z")

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[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Q44lETYVi2Y/maxresdefault.jpg "This Train - The Emperor's New Band - 08 - Magic Bean") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q44lETYVi2Y)

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee-is-literally-magic/1014166/26 "2025-02-11T22:48:24Z")

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Chocolate is even more magical. You take a bean, take it apart, cream one part and powder the other, and then put them back together, and you end up with the food of the gods.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee-is-literally-magic/1014166/27 "2025-02-11T23:23:54Z")

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Bah. Compared to the magic that is the making of bee vomit, this is very primitive stuff we’re making here. Toddler-level chemistry.

But your certainly right that chocolate is one of the foods of the gods.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee-is-literally-magic/1014166/28 "2025-02-11T23:55:42Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> I’ve embraced the cold brew method of coffee alchemy. Every 3 or so days I brew up about a gallon of the stuff, which the Mrs. and I consume avidly each morning. The resultant product is much less bitter than that made by standard hot brewing.

I, too, have discovered cold brew coffee, though I buy it ready made. For me it’s not a replacement for regular filter coffee, just an interesting variation. And I find it quite different. For some reason (my subjective impression) it doesn’t seem to go well with the cream and sugar I add to regular coffee. I just drink it black, which I’d never do with regular coffee, but cold brew is quite palatable that way.

> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Do you then heat it in a microwave or in a pot?  
> Or do you drink it cold, even in the winter?

It can be consumed hot or cold. The pre-made stuff I buy comes in a refrigerated carton, like milk, so it’s ice cold if one likes it that way. I prefer to nuke it in the microwave in a small cup for one minute. It packs quite a caffeine wallop so a small (about 8 ounce) cup is sufficient, somewhat the same way that one traditionally drinks espresso in small cups.

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**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee-is-literally-magic/1014166/29 "2025-02-12T00:01:53Z")

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You go sit in the corner and think about what you’ve done.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee-is-literally-magic/1014166/30 "2025-02-12T01:18:42Z")

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FTR, this is the stuff I buy:

[![](https://assets.shop.loblaws.ca/products/21397831/b1/en/front/21397831_front_a01_@2.png) ](https://assets.shop.loblaws.ca/products/21397831/b1/en/front/21397831_front_a01_@2.png)

It’s also available in a dark roast.

As I said, I don’t consider it a replacement for regular coffee, just something different. Also, it’s very convenient if I’m in a hurry and don’t have time to make regular coffee and just need a caffeine jolt, because this stuff delivers!

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**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee-is-literally-magic/1014166/31 "2025-02-12T01:58:38Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> the magic that is the making of bee vomit

And still, they laughed at my cat shit coffee, so they add bee vomit to make it more palpable. What next, add pungent Cassia tree bark?

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**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee-is-literally-magic/1014166/32 "2025-02-12T02:21:59Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> You take a bean and heat it. Then you crush it into powder

> [@Chronos](#):
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> Chocolate is even more magical. You take a bean, take it apart, cream one part and powder the other, and then put them back together, and you end up with the food of the gods

Both of these miss the step with the _real_ magic. After picking the fruit, you have to let it sit out for a bit, so invisible creatures can transform them. This step is critical, but you just need to trust me about the invisible creatures.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee-is-literally-magic/1014166/33 "2025-02-12T02:28:15Z")

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The real magic is when half a cup is all it takes to make you poop.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee-is-literally-magic/1014166/34 "2025-02-12T17:25:08Z")

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> [@dolphinboy](#):
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> However, coffee isn’t as good for you as green tea, so I drink green tea in the morning, water throughout the day, and coffee in the evening, to get the best of all worlds health-wise. YMMV.

Unfortunately, green tea make Baby Jesus cry. I can’t stand the stuff.

> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> I’ve embraced the cold brew method of coffee alchemy. Every 3 or so days I brew up about a gallon of the stuff, which the Mrs. and I consume avidly each morning. The resultant product is much less bitter than that made by standard hot brewing.

I add a small pinch of salt to my coffee grounds. Salt cuts the bitter taste, and your brain interprets the result as sweet.

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**Author:** ![dolphinboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dolphinboy/32/330_2.png) [@dolphinboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dolphinboy)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee-is-literally-magic/1014166/35 "2025-02-12T17:29:05Z")

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> [@Maus\_Magill](#):
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> Unfortunately, green tea make Baby Jesus cry. I can’t stand the stuff.

I didn’t like green tea at first, but after I started adding apple cider vinegar and lemon juice to it I eventually go used to the taste and now I enjoy it daily. I rarely drink black tea anymore.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee-is-literally-magic/1014166/36 "2025-02-12T17:56:16Z")

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> [@dolphinboy](#):
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> I didn’t like green tea at first, but after I started adding apple cider vinegar and lemon juice to it I eventually go used to the taste and now I enjoy it daily.

That’s some weird kind of alchemy; making something palatable by adding two even more unpalatable things to it. I’m intrigued enough to try it (fully expecting to regret it.)

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**Author:** ![dolphinboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dolphinboy/32/330_2.png) [@dolphinboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dolphinboy)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee-is-literally-magic/1014166/37 "2025-02-12T18:00:14Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> That’s some weird kind of alchemy; making something palatable by adding two even more unpalatable things to it. I’m intrigued enough to try it (fully expecting to regret it.)

There is a method to my madness. The apple cider vinegar (1 tablespoon) is for blood sugar management and the lemon juice (1 tablespoon) is to reduce the chances of kidney stones. All I can say is, so far, so good.

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**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee-is-literally-magic/1014166/38 "2025-02-12T18:05:17Z")

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I’ve actually been looking for a palatable way to pre-dose my meals with apple cider vinegar. Mixing it with two other unpleasant tastes never occurred to me.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee-is-literally-magic/1014166/39 "2025-02-12T20:14:11Z")

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What is this about apple cider vinegar in meals. Sounds like a silly health fad on par with the “grapefruit diet” to me.

But I know nothing of it, either factual or boosterish. Can anyone edumacate me?

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee-is-literally-magic/1014166/40 "2025-02-12T21:12:14Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> What is this about apple cider vinegar in meals. Sounds like a silly health fad on par with the “grapefruit diet” to me.

It blunts the glucose spike from a meal. I’ve tested it with a continuous glucose monitor and it works (about 30% less of a spike for me). I’m not sure there is a scientific consensus on how this works. It tastes bad enough that I prefer to just avoid any starches or sugars when I eat.

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