# Coffee **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 24, 2000, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee/30539 "2000-08-24T02:14:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![BullDawg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/57b2e6/32.png) [@BullDawg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BullDawg)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2000, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee/30539/41 "2000-08-25T17:38:11Z")
Oh wait, that’s not what you meant by “drunk”. You meant “should we drink coffee”. In which case I don’t really care. In my best Gilda Radner Voice: Nevermind. Thank you. Drive through. ---
**Author:** ![Lazarus7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/67e7ee/32.png) [@Lazarus7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lazarus7)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2000, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee/30539/42 "2000-08-25T18:56:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by oldscratch \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by Lazarus7 \* > > \*\* > > Caffeine is a mild poison. That said, however, the better the coffee you are drinking, the lower the caffeine level (that cup o’ Maxwell House has more caffeine in it than your single tall latte at a good coffee house). > > \*\* > > This is not true. Peet’s coffee which is one of the best, if not the best, has a very high level of caffine. A small cup contains around 150mgs. A larger cup has a higher level of course. \*\* Unfortunately, this is a matter of opinion, when talking about taste. The simple truth remains that caffeine is a poison used by the coffee plant to defend itself from predators. To back myself up here is a quote and a link: “…caffeine is medically classified as a poison…” [http://www.niehs.nih.gov/odhsb/focus/summer97/caffeine.html](http://www.niehs.nih.gov/odhsb/focus/summer97/caffeine.html) ---
**Author:** ![oldscratch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ed655f/32.png) [@oldscratch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldscratch)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2000, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee/30539/43 "2000-08-25T19:13:19Z")
That’s what I get for leaving in the first sentance. I was in no way disagreeing with your coments on it being a poison. I was simply disagreeing with the comment on the level of caffine. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2000, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee/30539/44 "2000-08-25T19:28:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by andros \* > \*\ ***Argreable** , from the OP: > > > [@](#): > > > > So, I will ask: Do you dopers think coffee should be drunk? Why? > > I thought I answered this, but looking back, I guess not. “Should” implies a moral or ethical imperative (“obligation or duty” per the dictionary). That does not apply to drinking coffee. I drink it, I see nothing wrong with it in moderation. My SO does not, I see nothing wrong with that. So what you’re saying is that if coffee should be drunk, we all have a moral or ethical obligation to do so? We have to admit that the word “should” has changed from the dictionary definition, at least in common speech. > [@](#): > > [sup] **blessedwolf** , when was the last time you were actually conscious? I mean, c’mon . . .[/sup] \*\* Now, now…well, certainly not this weekend. (Q9 says Hi, BTW). Let’s see. The last time I was conscious…I think it was a Tuesday. ---
**Author:** ![Lazarus7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/67e7ee/32.png) [@Lazarus7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lazarus7)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2000, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee/30539/45 "2000-08-25T19:37:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by oldscratch \* > \*\*That’s what I get for leaving in the first sentance. I was in no way disagreeing with your coments on it being a poison. I was simply disagreeing with the comment on the level of caffine. \*\* Oh … ok then. Here is a good link to back up my other statement, that lower quality coffees have more caffeine: “…Robusta has approximately twice as much caffeine as Arabica.” [http://coffeefaq.com/coffaq.htm#aribrob](http://coffeefaq.com/coffaq.htm#aribrob) ---
**Author:** ![sdimbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sdimbert/32/20204_2.png) [@sdimbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sdimbert)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2000, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee/30539/46 "2000-08-25T19:58:31Z")
**lunasea** , you posted: [QUOTE] \*Originally posted by lunasea \* \*\* > [@](#): > > Brewed tea has 40-60 mg of caffeine > Drip coffee has 115-175 mg. > coffeeFAQ > \*\* (BTW, I fixed the bad URL) Information you neglected to include: [ul] [li]The measurement of 115-175 mg of caffeine is for a 7 oz cup of coffee, while the FAQ does not specify the size of the cup of Tea which contains 40-60 mg.[/li][li]However, a measurement is given for Iced Tea: a 12 oz glass contains 70 mg of caffiene.[/li][li]The most important ommited fact: “The variability in the amount of caffeine in a cup of coffee or tea is relatively large even if prepared by the same person using the same equipment and ingredients day after day.”[/li][/ul] Just earning my sig… ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2000, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee/30539/47 "2000-08-25T23:41:13Z")
Derleth wrote: > [@](#): > > _Post hoc, ergo propter hoc_ is the fallacy here. Just because something happened before something else, a causation chain is not implied. If you reasoned that way, women getting the vote caused the Cold War. Obviously false. You’re not going to believe this, Derleth, but there is a sizable number of men in Russia who blame the entire Communist experiment – all 70+ years of the Soviet Union’s existence – on women! ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2000, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee/30539/48 "2000-08-25T23:50:01Z")
matt\_mcl wrote: > [@](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by spooje \* > > **Maybe it made you skinny.** > > I think it was having to climb a mountain every day to go to college from 1997-99, but it’s open to debate. So, was your daily trip also uphill both ways? 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coffee/30539.md?page=2)