# Coincidence: Q33 and Islamic Website \*NEW\* **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 21, 2001, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coincidence-q33-and-islamic-website-new/83060 "2001-09-21T18:34:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Cyrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Cyrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyrin)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coincidence-q33-and-islamic-website-new/83060/1 "2001-09-21T18:34:05Z")
Ok, we’ve all heard the big deal with Q33NY and how it translates into A plane, two pieces of paper (looks like two skyscrapers) and Skull and Crossbones and the Star of David. Well I wasn’t satisfied with the idea that Q33 has no significance. At first people thought it was the flight #, but that wasn’t true so I decided to do a little digging of my own. [http://www.excite.com](http://www.excite.com) yielded an interesting search when I typed in “Q33” [http://www.islamicity.com/dialogue/q33.htm](http://www.islamicity.com/dialogue/q33.htm) was the first hit on the search. [Islamicity.com](http://Islamicity.com) is a major Islamic website, the link with the reference # Q33 seemed very interesting as the first sentence seems to accurately describe the wonderful state of capitalism in which we live. This all seems rather coincidental, but I am not sure… Any thoughts?? ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coincidence-q33-and-islamic-website-new/83060/2 "2001-09-21T18:53:18Z")
I really don’t see the relevance of [Magnetoresistance in Ultrathin Homogeneous and Granular Superconducting Wires](http://positron.aps.org/BAPSMAR98/abs/S3490.html) to the WTC. What is your point? :rolleyes: Please, people, YOU ARE SEEING PATTERNS WHERE NONE REALLY EXIST! It is human nature to try to see patterns in random information. It served us well when trying to discern a leopard in sun-dappled leaves. It serves us today when driving in fog or at night. But not every flicker of gold is a predator. Not every gray shadow is a pedestrian. And random letters in a word processor rarely point to an international conspiracy. ---
**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coincidence-q33-and-islamic-website-new/83060/3 "2001-09-21T18:54:28Z")
I think it has about as much meaning as having the attacks happening on 9-11. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Kwyjibo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/59ef9b/32.png) [@Kwyjibo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kwyjibo)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coincidence-q33-and-islamic-website-new/83060/4 "2001-09-21T18:58:08Z")
[This](http://www.snopes2.com/spoons/fracture/wingding.htm) says it all. ---
**Author:** ![Cyrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Cyrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyrin)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coincidence-q33-and-islamic-website-new/83060/5 "2001-09-21T19:01:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\*And random letters in a word processor rarely point to an international conspiracy. \*\* See now that’s funny… I don’t remember EVER saying anything about international conspiracy! I was just making reference to a coincidence! I really havn’t drawn any firm conclusions on this, I was hoping to get some outside opinion… apparently all I am entitled to is criticism. Oh Well! ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coincidence-q33-and-islamic-website-new/83060/6 "2001-09-21T19:08:09Z")
Ooooh. Very spooky. This is just the tip of the mysterious “Q” question. Why, who can imagine the significance of the hundreds of catalogued Q-numbers at this devilish Orientalist website? What are we to make of the sinister [Q666](http://www.islamicity.com/dialogue/q666.htm)? My _Dictionary of Esoteric Thought_ defines _al-wajib al-wujud_ as > [@](#): > > Necessary Being, i.e. that which exists by itself or that which cannot but exist, for non-existence of it is unthinkable; an expression used by philosophers for God. “Being the most significant entity in the metaphysical system of ibn Sina” Could this “Wajib” be the Beast of Revelations? Will even our tin-foil hats protect us? ---
**Author:** ![Cyrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Cyrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyrin)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coincidence-q33-and-islamic-website-new/83060/7 "2001-09-21T19:11:22Z")
Maximum, I read that over (twice) before I made this thread and it doesn’t say anything about Islam. The Website article talks about bringing suffering to those who store up Gold and Silver and do not spend time worshiping Allah! The World Trade center is all about the accumulation of wealth. Destroying it… now there is something that Islamic Extremists might do to fulfil this sort of teaching. I DO NOT think that this is actually a conspiracy, I do think however that it is an eerie coincidence. Also I might point out that Wingdings was Copyright 1992, and I seriously doubt that the website was around then, so any direct link is just ridiculous. But the coincidence still exists! ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coincidence-q33-and-islamic-website-new/83060/8 "2001-09-21T19:20:03Z")
Another eerie coincidence: “Q33” may be a sign you’re watching [too much television.](http://www.grc.nasa.gov/Other_Groups/K-12/p_test/math_9/math_p_q33.html) ---
**Author:** ![Kwyjibo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/59ef9b/32.png) [@Kwyjibo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kwyjibo)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coincidence-q33-and-islamic-website-new/83060/9 "2001-09-21T19:29:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Çyrin \* > \*\*But the coincidence still exists! \*\* Only because you were looking for one. But that is all it is…a coincidence (And a very poor one based in falsehoods). But the definition of a “coincidence” is as follows. > [@](#): > > co·in·ci·dence (k-ns-dns, -dns) > n. > > 1. The state or fact of occupying the same relative position or area in space. > > 2. A sequence of events that although accidental seems to have been planned or arranged. So the fact that the Q33NY thingy (Which is where you got all this from) is a complete fabrication (IE: Something some ‘prankster’ made up), you’re looking for meaning in Q33 is therefore unfounded and quite nonsensical. Sorry dude, you’re a great friend and all, but I gotta side with the Dopers on this one. ---
**Author:** ![Cyrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Cyrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyrin)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coincidence-q33-and-islamic-website-new/83060/10 "2001-09-21T19:39:38Z")
Alright, this has been quite the learning process… So Coincidence was the wrong word, I can’t admit that… Also, You can NEVER watch too much TV… And Maximum your right, the Dopers are usually pretty bang on with this kind of thing, which is why I posted here in the first place. If I didn’t want other people insight I wouldn’t have posted anything, or added “any thoughts?” to my post. At any rate, I still think it was an interesting set of events which occurred at my desk here at work, because all of this started when a piece of paper landed in my recycle bin with the Wingdings symbols. (I had to decode it myself) I went to excite and took the first link and got a Passage from the Quran about not building up riches when you should be worshiping Allah… frankly I could (at this point) care less if a coincidence/conspiracy exists but I was still a little shocked… Peace! ---
**Author:** ![shannybonanny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@shannybonanny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shannybonanny)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coincidence-q33-and-islamic-website-new/83060/11 "2001-09-21T19:47:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Çyrin \* > \I really havn’t drawn any firm conclusions on this, I was hoping to get some outside opinion… apparently all I am entitled to is criticism. Oh Well!\ \*\* I just thought this was funny. I got this mental image of a little old lady, smacking her monitor with her purse. “Well I nevah!” ---
**Author:** ![Cyrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Cyrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyrin)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coincidence-q33-and-islamic-website-new/83060/12 "2001-09-21T19:52:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\*I just thought this was funny. I got this mental image of a little old lady, smacking her monitor with her purse. “Well I nevah!” \*\* For a second there I thought you were spying on me… Except I am an 18yr old male, working in an office building! Well actually I use the term “working” loosely as I spend most of my time here Doping! ---
**Author:** ![Kwyjibo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/59ef9b/32.png) [@Kwyjibo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kwyjibo)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coincidence-q33-and-islamic-website-new/83060/13 "2001-09-21T19:53:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Çyrin \* > \*\*Alright, this has been quite the learning process… > > So Coincidence was the wrong word, I can’t admit that… > > Also, You can NEVER watch too much TV… > > And Maximum your right, the Dopers are usually pretty bang on with this kind of thing, which is why I posted here in the first place. If I didn’t want other people insight I wouldn’t have posted anything, or added “any thoughts?” to my post. > > At any rate, I still think it was an interesting set of events which occurred at my desk here at work, because all of this started when a piece of paper landed in my recycle bin with the Wingdings symbols. (I had to decode it myself) I went to excite and took the first link and got a Passage from the Quran about not building up riches when you should be worshiping Allah… frankly I could (at this point) care less if a coincidence/conspiracy exists but I was still a little shocked… > > Peace! \*\* Don’t worry about it, and don’t take these things personally. I think everyone understood what you were getting at, and in a way it is kinda freaky. But you were basing your finding on something that was false, and I’m sure that was why your claim wasn’t beening taken seriously. Flogging this sort of information to stir emotions or to hint at some hidden agenda with out ‘hard facts’ will not be taken seriously by those that come here. But hey…forget about it. We all live and learn. Oh…and Welcome to the SDBM .🙂 ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coincidence-q33-and-islamic-website-new/83060/14 "2001-09-21T19:54:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Çyrin \* > **Also, You can NEVER watch too much TV…** Ah, he brings a Simpsonian Moment to the thread! Okay, you can stay. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a5b964/32.png) [@Bill\_H](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_H)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2001, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coincidence-q33-and-islamic-website-new/83060/15 "2001-09-22T07:38:42Z")
Hey, what about Shakespeare’s Q33 Sonnet? [http://www.iloveshakespeare.com/sonnetbook/Q20\_39/Q033.html](http://www.iloveshakespeare.com/sonnetbook/Q20_39/Q033.html) Containing such lines as Stealing unseen to west with this disgrace and The region cloud hath mask’d him from me now. It all makes sense! Why didn’t we see it?