# Coldfire called me a fucking idiot! I feel so validated! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 8, 2002, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-called-me-a-fucking-idiot-i-feel-so-validated/107879 "2002-05-08T11:55:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-called-me-a-fucking-idiot-i-feel-so-validated/107879/103 "2002-05-08T19:24:27Z")
I realize I’m late to this little party, and that it is in **Coldfire** ’s honor, but I feel that I really must, again, comment on the thread title (get your “ignore lists” ready, everyone!). I would like to direct you to the following entry in **OpalCat** LiveJournal: > **[Darwin's Finch Is An Idiot. Alert the Presses.](https://opalcat.livejournal.com/779188.html?delayedid=)** > > what a freaking idiot. Notice anything peculiar about that title? All I can say is Hot Damn, I must be validated, too! Now, I felt that I have maintained a great deal of restraint over the past few days, considering my first inclination after your (assuming you can read this, **OpalCat** ) little tirade against me was to launch a Pit thread that would have, in all likelihood, gotten me banned. But, I felt, it’s not worth it. _You’re_ not worth it. I like this place, and I’m not going to let you ruin it for me, nor drive me away. Then, I see this thread. I therefore wish to say this: 1. **OpalCat** , you are a fucking hypocrite. 2. **OpalCat** , you are a fucking coward for hiding behind your LiveJournal and your ignore list. You got a beef with me, take it to the Pit, as you did with **Coldfire** , or take it to email. I will leave it to others to determine if you are, in fact, a fucking idiot. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-called-me-a-fucking-idiot-i-feel-so-validated/107879/104 "2002-05-08T19:24:31Z")
What ought to be laughed at is the notion that one’s ride is somehow linked to one’s identity. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-called-me-a-fucking-idiot-i-feel-so-validated/107879/105 "2002-05-08T19:30:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*What ought to be laughed at is the notion that one’s ride is somehow linked to one’s identity. \*\* Spoken like a true Ford Escort owner. ---
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-called-me-a-fucking-idiot-i-feel-so-validated/107879/106 "2002-05-08T19:33:49Z")
JADIS, no one is being _deliberately obtuse_. Look, when you _analogize_ one thing with another, you are comparing them. That is what an analogy is. Many people here find a comparison – any comparison – between leather-bound books and human-bound lampshades to be hugely offensive – no matter the context, no matter what the analogy was used to show. As I have said, it was not the intent behind the analogy that offended, but the very fact the analogy was drawn in the first place. You may not agree with this, but can you at least see it? Or are you being _deliberately obtuse_? ---
**Author:** ![sidle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee59a6/32.png) [@sidle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sidle)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-called-me-a-fucking-idiot-i-feel-so-validated/107879/107 "2002-05-08T19:35:11Z")
Darwin’s Finch- I applaud you for your restraint. However, it would probably be best to just let it go. Posting yet another link to Opal’s LiveJournal (the first, of course, posted in the OP in lieu of a thread link to the actual occurence :rolleyes: ) just feeds and fuels this ridiculous drama queen behavior. I mean, the overall post and journal content is just not that interesting. There are too many worthy discussions around here. Let some people behave like adoescents. You have better things to do. Like you said, it’s just not worth it… ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-called-me-a-fucking-idiot-i-feel-so-validated/107879/108 "2002-05-08T19:36:00Z")
> [@](#): > > C. something that was made as the result of something you find morally abhorrant doesn’t become less abhorrant just because some time has passed > > Seems most people at the SDMB voted A, B, or A and B… very few could understand C Criminy! It isn’t that people didn’t understand the point…we all did. But using the Holocaust in such a casual fashion to prove a minor point is deeply offensive. How about this? “Why don’t you forgive Fred for hitting your car? It happened six months ago.” “It doesn’t matter how long ago it happened. Should we forgive Hitler for the extermination of 6 million men, women, and children during the Holocaust?” See, that’s bloody disgusting to use the Holocaust in such a fashion. It’s beyond rhetorical overkill; it’s a affront to the moral sensibility of any rational person to have an historical obscenity used in such a trivial way. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-called-me-a-fucking-idiot-i-feel-so-validated/107879/109 "2002-05-08T19:40:24Z")
> [@](#): > > Spoken like a true Ford Escort owner. Right now, I don’t own a car. Weeither use my BF’s car or take the Metro. Guess I’ll have to look for work guarding harems. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-called-me-a-fucking-idiot-i-feel-so-validated/107879/110 "2002-05-08T19:49:26Z")
Okay, folks. I think we’ve seen enough venom in this thread. I’m closing it before I have to take a fire hose to some people. ---
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-called-me-a-fucking-idiot-i-feel-so-validated/107879/111 "2002-05-08T19:50:06Z")
JADIS – > [@](#): > > You’re no more “stupid” for disagreeing with me than I am for disagreeing with you. I’m just trying to present how I see things as succinctly as I can, hoping that at least _someone_ out there will take a few deep breaths and say “OK, I can see that…this isn’t the big hoorah people are making of it after all.” I can dream, right? Okay. But look at it from my point of view: The analogy, intentionally or not, was _massively_ inappropriate and very offensive to people who _perceived_ – with some justice – that OPAL was in _some way_ – any way – comparing the two. Even assuming she did not intend the offense, which I do assume, the analogy was a terrible one. As JAR said, it’s like comparing mass electrocution of people to the use of a bug zapper: Even if your point is nothing more than “both are bad,” they should not be linked as if they are in any way comparable. I am not compelled to make a “critical assessment of the point OPAL was trying to make,” because my problem is with the _manner_ in which she made it. To the extent it’s become “a big hoohah,” it’s because OPAL, in a fit of seeming insanity, started this Pit thread virtually _inviting_ people to weigh in on the issue. Well, I’m weighing in: I think the analogy was particularly unfortunate (to say the least); I don’t think COLDFIRE’s reaction was out of line; and I don’t think I or anyone else has been deliberately obtuse in so concluding. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-called-me-a-fucking-idiot-i-feel-so-validated/107879.md?page=5)