# Coldfire, you're a liar. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 20, 2000, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-youre-a-liar/46566 "2000-12-20T19:57:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Tansu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/67e7ee/32.png) [@Tansu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tansu)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2000, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-youre-a-liar/46566/41 "2000-12-22T15:25:00Z")
No, no, no, bjOrn. Not **been** , **had**. ---
**Author:** ![Tymp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Tymp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tymp)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2000, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-youre-a-liar/46566/42 "2000-12-22T15:46:31Z")
Educating Icelanders makes your dick huge? **Coldfire** , I hope you’ve got exclusive rights to this technique, ‘cause you could stand to make a mint! ---
**Author:** ![Mu\_Mu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Mu\_Mu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mu_Mu)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2000, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-youre-a-liar/46566/43 "2000-12-23T20:25:16Z")
I guess if **bj0rn** can see my point, I’ve made it plainly enough, despite all attempts to divert this thread to obscure the topic. **Coldfire** is back to his ultra-pious self on ATMB today. He claims sock talk is verboten, but as seen in the OP, it is his favorite way to attack people. Once he calls them a troll or sock, the mindless ones buy into it and he doesn’t have to do all the heavy lifting. **Cannon** seems to be Coldfire’s new special pal. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by \* > \*\*Cannon, if you’d lurked more carefully, you’d have realised that all conversation regarding sock puppets and trolls takes place off the boards, by means of e-mails with the moderators and administrators. > > Rest assured, if we find any claim that anyone is a sock puppet feasible, you’ll notice. So far, that has not been the case in your instance. > > Your protest in this case is duely noted, and this thread is closed.\*\* Notice how kind? But when someone else does that, he attacks him. I’m not saying **Cannon** is **Coldfire** ’s sock, just that with Cannon around, Coldfire doesn’t need a socks. ---
**Author:** ![Mu\_Mu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Mu\_Mu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mu_Mu)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2000, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-youre-a-liar/46566/44 "2000-12-23T20:28:22Z")
(Note: The above quote was by Coldfire. When a thread is locked you can’t get quotes in the regular format.) ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2000, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-youre-a-liar/46566/45 "2000-12-23T20:44:11Z")
> [@](#): > > ``` > I guess if bj0rn can see my point, I've made it plainly enough, despite all attempts to divert this thread to > obscure the topic. > > ``` Hey, where’s the smilie?! Oh wait…are you serious? ---
**Author:** ![Myrr21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Myrr21](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myrr21)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2000, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-youre-a-liar/46566/46 "2000-12-24T04:58:19Z")
> [@](#): > > I guess if **bj0rn** can see my point, I’ve made it plainly enough, despite all attempts to divert this thread to obscure the topic. Hey guy! Look over there! _yoink_ What the hell are you talking about, you soggy twit? > [@](#): > > once he calls them a troll or sock, the mindless ones buy into it and he doesn’t have to do all the heavy lifting. Well, you do seem to prove his points quite nicely… > [@](#): > > **Cannon** seems to be Coldfire’s new special pal. While all you’re left with is a sore right hand. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2000, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-youre-a-liar/46566/47 "2000-12-24T11:02:00Z")
God-fuckin’-damn, Mu Mu, don’t you know that in the hierarchy of subject matter, anything you say ranks _below_ genitalia?!? If you’re turning to _bj0rn_ for support, youse is fucked, boy! ---
**Author:** ![coosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@coosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coosa)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2000, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-youre-a-liar/46566/48 "2000-12-24T12:23:58Z")
Mu Mu said: > [@](#): > > Notice how kind? But when someone else does that, he attacks him. Link, please? Or are you referring to [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=52287)? Coldfire answered and closed Cannon’s thread at 9:10 a.m. - No Bones opened this obvious (and, IMO, deliberately provocative) copycat thread at 11:26 a.m. Two hours and 16 minutes - did it take that long for No Bones to come up with this brilliant idea? Let’s see - a newbie posts an inappropriate thread in a forum; a moderator sharply, but politely, admonishes the newbie and closes the thread. Shortly thereafter, a not-so-newbie opens a virtually-identical copycat thread, leaving no doubt that he/she read the original, including the moderator’s admonishment. Gee, should the moderator be annoyed? Could this be seen as inflammatory behavior by anyone who doesn’t have their head stuck up their ass so far they’ve singed their eyebrows with acid reflux? I’m guessing that most people would say YES. IMO, Coldfire showed remarkable restraint. Interestingly, Mu Mu, you were the first responder to that thread, with a totally unwarranted and inappropriate stab at Coldfire. Is there some sort of contest underway for otherwise-useless posters to see how big a jerk one can be before being banned? ---
**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2000, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-youre-a-liar/46566/49 "2000-12-27T11:29:55Z")
hey, i can be supportive too… there are just not so many of me. bj0rn - mö ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2000, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-youre-a-liar/46566/50 "2000-12-27T13:23:41Z")
> [@](#): > > I’m not saying Cannon is Coldfire’s sock … Hey! According to our misguided friend **Show\_Biz** , **Cannon** is _my_ sock. **Show\_Biz** actually sent Coldfire e-mail with that specific accusation. Coldy, gimme back my password, you big dick. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2000, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-youre-a-liar/46566/51 "2000-12-27T15:32:50Z")
**UncleBeer** , you whining bastard. We had a deal, man. I got **Cannon** , the supposedly-newbie-so-anything-goes, and you got **No Bones** , the very-rare-pop-up-sock that annoys moderators. Don’t tell me you wanna reverse _again_. For one thing, it’s confusing the Teeming Millions. Poor **Mu Mu** doesn’t even know which mod owns what socks anymore! You heartless bastard. And also, I can’t change all my Evil Plans everytime you change your mind about which sock you’re in love with now. Jesus. On a more serious note: **coosa** , thanks for clarifying. I couldn’t have said it better myself, those were my motivations exactly. You _do_ realise that **Mu Mu** will now accuse you of being my sock puppet, right? **Mu Mu** : what to say about you. I find it difficult flaming you. You’re being such a complete ass, producing OP’s that self-destruct upon reading… there’s just nothing left to incinerate. It doesn’t even bother me, all those weird theories you come up with. It is obvious that noone believes you. Why keep trying? Sure, you obviously hate my guts, for some reason. Even though, using your last quote of me as a guide, I never called you a troll or sock. Yeah, that’ll be your next assignment. Look up a post of me from the last 4 months where I called you a sock or a troll. I called you a whining idiot that comes out everytime a moderaror is being criticised. Specifically, with a hard-on for waterj2. And by God, I stand by that statement. You’ve shown me absolutely nothing to disprove that, given your reactions in recent ATMB threads. You, sir, are of very little use to these message boards. The time has come to ask yourself the question: do I shape up, or do I leave? Cause if you don’t, we might answer that question for you really soon. ---
**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2000, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-youre-a-liar/46566/52 "2000-12-27T16:24:21Z")
> [@](#): > > You, sir, are of very little use to these message boards. The time has come to ask yourself the question: do I shape up, or do I leave? > Cause if you don’t, we might answer that question for you really soon. > > * * * > > Coldfire he is posting, doesnt that help any message board? > [@](#): > > what to say about you. I find it difficult flaming you. You’re being such a complete ass, producing OP’s that self-destruct upon reading… there’s just nothing left to incinerate oh mister high and mighty, pardon us for our stupidity…we are not worthy of your holy flames. can you please see it in your heart to send us a match so we can flame ourselves. > [@](#): > > It is obvious that noone believes you. Why keep trying? is that a statement of fact or just your observation? it sure looks like a statment of fact, and let me tell you coldfire dearest, you are wrong. not because your statement is wrong, but because it is a wrong statement, the possibility exists that this statement you made is false, thus it is wrong. another “because” reply to my observation of your statment is, because i belive him. he is correct when he says: > [@](#): > > it is his favorite way to attack people although you have a couple of methods which you use when you flame people, they all have one purpose, to demean the person you are flaming in an elegant, not so polite and stupid way. your flame is seldom true, most of your smart replies are simply put, lies. other replies do not matter for they are insults, meant to make people see the insulted statement as nonsense. should i give an example? sure…but while there are numerous examples all over the message board i will only provide one, for if people bother to look, they all look the same. the following is from this thread: > [@](#): > > Let’s break it down bit by bit, in good Pit tradition: this is your tradition, please bear with me while i do the same. > [@](#): > > You also seem to have a hard-on for waterj2. insult number 1 > [@](#): > > Apparently, sarcasm isn’t your strength. In other words, it looked to me waterj2 was laughing AT you rather than WITH you. But that could be me. a misunderstanding due to sarcasm, it cant be!!! > [@](#): > > I’m quite lightened up. And I never held the opinion that this entire message board was about me. No illusions of grandeur here. Unlike your sad old self, who reckoned a mere response in the original thread wouldn’t get him enough jerk-off material, hence decided on opening a separate Pit Thread. like that hasnt happened before. obviously in this case the op wasnt suited for the original thread, hence it was posted in the pit. any more silly remarks? > [@](#): > > And you’ll never miss an opportunity to tell us all that we’re entirely wrong in our approach. Especially the administration. See my point yet, Mu Mu? he might see your point, but it sure dont. so what if he has a different management approach than you have. here you are trying to look like you know what you are talking about. … the rest is dull, and it was remarked upon as the worst coldfire flame in months. anyhows, that does not matter, what matter is that you never seem to be able to critizise yourself or what you say, you are never wrong and you always think you have an answer. if you dont you disguise it in an insult that demeans the original speaker. not a very good way do debate. bj0rn - have a nice day. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Cynical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Mr.Cynical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Cynical)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2000, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-youre-a-liar/46566/53 "2000-12-27T16:45:32Z")
Clearly, bj0rn has intellectual skills to match his English grammatical finesse. The defense rests. ---
**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2000, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-youre-a-liar/46566/54 "2000-12-27T16:55:23Z")
i would not in a million years exchange anything i already possess for english finesse… bj0rn - … ---
**Author:** ![Milossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Milossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Milossarian)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2000, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-youre-a-liar/46566/55 "2000-12-27T17:02:18Z")
**bj0rn** and **Mu Mu** , sitting on a fjord, Annoying mods 'cause they’re oh so bored, First Pit thread, then disparage Then comes **bj0rn** with a word miscarriage! ---
**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2000, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-youre-a-liar/46566/56 "2000-12-27T17:04:09Z")
you are at least spelling my name correctly bj0rn - björn ---
**Author:** ![The\_Pit\_and\_The\_Pendulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@The\_Pit\_and\_The\_Pendulum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Pit_and_The_Pendulum)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2000, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-youre-a-liar/46566/57 "2000-12-27T17:14:48Z")
Here’s the link and quote for the official info.**[Ed’s post on Satan’s DNFTT pit thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=855768#post855768)** > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Ed Zotti_ > \*\*I’m closing this thread because it has degenerated into a pissing match. A few observations: > > 1. Please do not start threads accusing so-and-so of being a troll. This does nothing except encourage the troll (if in fact that’s what they are, which is no sure thing). Notify a mod or admin by e-mail. > > 2. While I don’t want to discourage anyone from sending me notes, I’m trying to stay out of day-to-day board administration. Except in emergencies I will merely forward complaints about trolls, etc., to an admin, usually TubaDiva. If you have a problem with a particular admin, send your complaints to a different one. We have three: TubaDiva, Lynn Bodoni, and CKDextHavn. Or try the moderator for the forum where the suspected troll is hanging out. > > 3. Various parties on the SDMB have, how shall we say, issues with various other parties. I do not want to get into a big discussion of who’s right and who’s wrong and I sure as hell don’t want to read about it on the board. All concerned are requested to refrain from any further postings along the lines of the above.\*\* ---
**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2000, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-youre-a-liar/46566/58 "2000-12-27T17:24:39Z")
thank you pit… i am sorry if any of my remarks or statments were understood as person intended flames, they were not supposed to be. perhaps i sunk down to coldfires level of posting when i broke his post down in a “traditional” pit fashion. but i was hoping he understood it as something similar to his own. it just seems like there is a lack of constructive comments in coldfires post regarding mumu… but i might be as mistaken as anybody else… bj0rn - ö0 ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2000, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-youre-a-liar/46566/59 "2000-12-27T18:07:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by bj0rn \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > You, sir, are of very little use to these message boards. The time has come to ask yourself the question: do I shape up, or do I leave? > > Cause if you don’t, we might answer that question for you really soon. > > > > * * * > > > > Coldfire > > he is posting, doesnt that help any message board?\*\* Nope. Posting noise only messes up the signal-to-noise ratio. Simply posting gibberish [sub]ahem[/sub] doesn’t help a message board or anything else. > [@](#): > > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > what to say about you. I find it difficult flaming you. You’re being such a complete ass, producing OP’s that self-destruct upon reading… there’s just nothing left to incinerate > > oh mister high and mighty, pardon us for our stupidity…we are not worthy of your holy flames. can you please see it in your heart to send us a match so we can flame ourselves. \*\* You and Mu-Mu seem to be doing a pretty good job all by yourselves. And, frankly Bj0rn, you should lay off the sarcasm: you don’t do it very well. > [@](#): > > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > It is obvious that noone believes you. Why keep trying? > > is that a statement of fact or just your observation? it sure looks like a statment of fact, and let me tell you coldfire dearest, you are wrong. > not because your statement is wrong, but because it is a wrong statement, the possibility exists that this statement you made is false, thus it is wrong. > another “because” reply to my observation of your statment is, because i belive him. > \*\* Is it just me or does this sound like a bit of Ed Wood dialogue? (see below) \* > [@](#): > > Colonel Tom Edwards: Why, a particle of sunlight can’t even be seen or measured. > Eros: Can you see or measure an atom? Yet you can explode one! A ray of sunlight is made up of many atoms. > Jeff Trent: So what if we do develop this Solaranite bomb? We’d be even a stronger nation than now. > Eros: “Stronger.” You see? You see? Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid!\* > [@](#): > > \*\* > this is your tradition, please bear with me while i do the same. > > > [@](#): > > > > You also seem to have a hard-on for waterj2. > > insult number 1\*\* Actually, in the English language, this really isn’t an insult. It’s just like saying “Bj0rn seems to be upset at Coldfire”.\*\* [/QUOTE] Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2000, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-youre-a-liar/46566/60 "2000-12-27T23:01:16Z")
Sweet mother of the Invisible Pink Unicorn. The Lava Gnome is following me. **bj0rn** , I know you won’t believe this. _But this thread isn’t about you._ Nor does it require your enlightened input. We’re happy beyond belief that you finally return after all those months, only to pick it all up again: your incoherent pit posting in various threads, completely oblivious to the topic at hand, and usually one or two posts behind mine (or **Rousseau’s**. You love him as well). God, how we missed all that fun. We’re so happy we’re soiling ourselves. **Mu Mu** is especially thrilled. He never had a friend before, and now the two of you can bond. Sure, there may be some cultural differences, but nothing that can’t be bridged. It’s the common things you guys need to focus on. **Evil Coldfire** , and his horrible pitside manner! The horror, _breaking someones posts up in bits_, only to refute them with vile and vulgar _gasp_ **logic**! The sheer _inhumanity_ of gratuitously using _choke_ **sarcasm**! And the **lies**! My goodness, the **LIES**!! You two are going to be _such_ good pals :rolleyes: **Milossarian** , kindly ship 1 (one) PS2 keyboard towards the Old World, _pronto_. And since we’re fighting ignorance: the _fjords_ are in Norway 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-youre-a-liar/46566.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire-youre-a-liar/46566.md?page=4)