# Coldfire

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 13, 2004, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919 "2004-07-13T16:27:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
**Page:** 10

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/181 "2004-07-16T15:16:19Z")

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> [@](#):
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> But if you’re insisting, let’s suppose I got a restraining order for someone who harassed/threatened me, that this person know I’m posting on the SDMB, and that I don’t want him/her to know that I moved from Paris to some place somewhere else. For instance the country we are both originally from. Shouldn’t it be a good enough reason not to want my location to be disclosed?

Sorry, I think this is a highly remote possibility, but I really have no interest in fighting with you about it, so I won’t argue further.

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> And how are _you_ qualified to decide what is significant or not regarding _my_ privacy?

I’m not deciding for anyone, merely espressing my opinion that disclosing the country from which one may or may not be posting does not expose them to a significant risk. You disagree. I get that.

As there already seems to be a surfeit of pissed-off people in this thread, I’ll bow out rather than add further to the tally.

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**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/182 "2004-07-16T15:28:59Z")

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> [@Desmostylus](#):
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> Would have been much simpler if he’d changed his name to **Stupid Fuck** , as I’d advised.

My apologies. It was actually [**Crazy Fuck**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=4864143).

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/183 "2004-07-16T15:51:03Z")

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I would not have posted ANYTHING about where the IP address originates if **Aldebaran** had not made such a big deal out of posting from “a tent in the ME”. Not only did he have this in his location, he referred to it in at least one post I knew, from IP checks that I had made on him before, that his IP didn’t come from the Middle East. I figured that since he was claiming something about his location, it was fair game to talk about…especially if he was lying about it. If he hadn’t claimed anything about his location, I wouldn’t have posted what I did.

As it turns out, I misread the IP information and THAT IP didn’t originate from Belgium, but the country it does originate from is close to it. I’d be more specific, but some of y’all seem to be paranoid. At any rate, his IP didn’t originate from the Middle East, though possibly he DOES live in a tent somewhere.

As for my not following this thread with every waking moment, I had some minor toe surgery on Tuesday, so I’m pretty much staying off the computer, as I’m in some pain and sitting for long periods of time makes it worse. On the other hand, I now have a technicolor toe, it’s black and blue and green and yellow and red and purple. I’m missing orange, though. I won’t be online much until it quits hurting. I’m also involved in negotiations to buy a book shop (which is something like an alcoholic buying a bar), which is taking up a great deal of my time.

For those who care, MY real location is south central Fort Worth, Texas, USA.

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**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/184 "2004-07-16T15:51:54Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Sorry, I think this is a highly remote possibility, but I really have no interest in fighting with you about it, so I won’t argue further.  
> .

Indeed that’s a remote possibility, but I’ve read weirder things on this very board. And besides, one could construct a number of other unlikely scenarios. Also, I would note that there are very few posters insiting on not disclosing their country of origin. If someone is adamant on this, maybe he has good reasons to do so. Or maybe not, but still it isn’t up to us to choose for him. 🙂

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**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/185 "2004-07-16T15:57:35Z")

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> [@Lynn Bodoni](#):
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> I figured that since he was claiming something about his location, it was fair game to talk about…especially if he was lying about it. If he hadn’t claimed anything about his location, I wouldn’t have posted what I did.  
> .

Maybe I’m wrong and I missed some important posts about it, but I assumed until now that he wasn’t really lying in the sense that the “tent in the ME” wasn’t intended to be taken seriously. So at least was my assumption.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/186 "2004-07-16T16:10:34Z")

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> [@Lynn](#):
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> I’m also involved in negotiations to buy a book shop (which is something like an alcoholic buying a bar), which is taking up a great deal of my time.

Wow! 🙂 Best of luck with that! And don’t sweat this stuff too much. I don’t think anyone believes that you would intentionally reveal people’s locations. An IP address can’t do that reliably anyway because of proxies. Take care of that toe.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/187 "2004-07-16T18:43:28Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Here: I’m currently posting from The Woodlands, Texas; from a location just off Grogan’s Mill Road, in fact. Go ahead, try to identify me from that.

Martha? Aunt Martha? Holy shit! It’s been so long!

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/188 "2004-07-16T19:39:31Z")

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Sorry, **andros** , but according to what I’ve been reading this morning, it looks like yer Aunt Martha’s going up the river for a few months. I’ll give her your best, though.

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**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2004, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/189 "2004-07-17T14:25:08Z")

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Well, I think another thing that set **Aldebaran** apart from all the rest was his insistence on assessing the other people on the thread by where THEY were posting from. He stereotyped and made assumptions based on the posters’ locations all the time, without shame, and was smug when called on it. And yet he refused to let us know what his heritage was. There’s a huge difference between Egypt and Jordan and Morocco and Saudi Arabia even though they’re all Arab countries. If the OP insists that it doesn’t matter, I suspect even more that he is not an Arab at all, just a European Muslim a few generations removed from his roots.

Again, if the OP so wanted to avoid being seen through the filter of his nationality, he should not have so insisted on impugning others because of theirs.

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2004, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/190 "2004-07-17T14:57:29Z")

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Wow, this is classic **Lib** stuff here, folks…

- “Lynn, you should not have done that.”

- random leap to some crazy shit about abused spouses.

- “Teacher, make the mean man stop before I poop my pants.”

- obligatory ass-kissing after embarrasing slap-down.

Sometimes it’s hard not to know whether to laugh or cringe…

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2004, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/191 "2004-07-17T17:28:41Z")

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And classic Leander as well…

- hijack thread to bash Lib

- completely miss the point

- complain about the rules

- disappear

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2004, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/192 "2004-07-17T17:43:29Z")

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just some random thoughts here -

sometimes it’s best to not respond to childish jibes.

oftimes long standing fueds leave all participants looking the worse for the wear.

name jokes are childish.

especially when the object complains.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2004, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/193 "2004-07-17T17:54:36Z")

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Gah, you’re right, Wring. You really are. Thanks for the good insight.

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2004, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/194 "2004-07-18T00:40:41Z")

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Ah Lib, you really are a sad little man, my friend.

Do yourself a favor – take a look at those last four posts of yours that I was ridiculing. Now really, in all seriousness, doesn’t that tell you something rather pathetic about your posting habits?

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2004, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/195 "2004-07-18T02:01:01Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> And classic Leander as well…
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> - hijack thread to bash Lib

Liberal complaining about Hijacks? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2004, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/196 "2004-07-18T16:40:46Z")

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Seeing as **Aldebaran** seems to have taken the (good) advice to give it a rest, I don’t see how keeping this thread open as a venue for yet another **Liberal** -centered shit slinging match is productive in any way.

So, lockdown, as they say.

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