# Coldfire

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 13, 2004, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919 "2004-07-13T16:27:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 4

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2004, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/61 "2004-07-13T20:10:25Z")

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> [@Aldebaran](#):
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> See on the right top of your screen, and read: A Tent With A View in the Middle East. What can be clearer?

Crystal clear actually.

Damn, all these years that I’ve thought that people from the Middle East might be different from each other, I was WRONG! I guess it doesn’t really matter what Middle Eastern country you’re from, as long as you are from the Middle East, I should know exactly what context you’re coming from because _they’re all the same_.

Thanks for clearing that up, Aldeberan.

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2004, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/62 "2004-07-13T20:10:54Z")

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I think you missd my “Don’t be a martyr” post. 🙂

Either way, I hope you stick around, as I truly have no desire for you to be banned. I’m just saying, that like december before you, if you do end up being banned, it will be solely your own doing, not the fact that a mod or even a majority of the board disagrees with you, despite what some of his defenders said back then.

Stick around and fight the good fight. Fess up when you make mistakes. If you make one that is too big to overcome, or a lot of small ones which add up, suck it up and realize you had it coming. In the meantime, I’ll continue to enjoy most of your posts, and puzzle over the rest.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2004, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/63 "2004-07-13T20:19:08Z")

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> [@Aldebaran](#):
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> People who do not open the link read only the title.

That’s not exactly true.

> [@](#):
>
> A story is making the headlines over here. In a suburbian  
> train headed for Paris, a woman who had a toddler with her  
> was assaulted by six arab guys, armed with knives. She had  
> to surrender her wallet, credit card, etc…
> 
> One of the assaulters looked at her ID and noticed she was  
> living in 16th…

I have not seen the first page of the thread, care to guess how I am able to quote it?

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2004, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/64 "2004-07-13T20:39:44Z")

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> [@Aldebaran](#):
>
> > [@Some moderator](#):
> >
> > I never said that you were the greatest scum one can imagine. Do not put words in my mouth. I have seen MUCH greater scum.
> 
> It is of course a great comfort that said administrator was so nice to declare to have seen alread MUCH greater scum then I am supposed to be.

I don’t think he was being nice to you; I think he was being truthful.

There **have** been worse scum on the SDMB. But they have all been banned.

Think about the implications of that for a moment, if you like.

While I enjoy a good melt-down as much as the next Doper, I really think you might want to reconsider. You aren’t going to win this argument. Nor, in my opinion, should you.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2004, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/65 "2004-07-13T20:42:58Z")

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> [@Aldebaran](#):
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> Except for the fact that certain members shall always react the way they do because that is the way they decide to react since the first post I ever made here.

Just because someone else acts like an asshole doesn’t mean you have to sink to their level.

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Bruce\_Daddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Daddy)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2004, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/66 "2004-07-13T20:47:14Z")

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**Mehitabel** wins.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2004, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/67 "2004-07-13T20:54:12Z")

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**Aldebaran** :

You would find yourself more welcomed here if you occasionally made an effort to learn something rather than solely using this MB as a means for lecturing people.

While I do think most people who post here more often than not do so to express their own views and opinions, most of us also ask questions and recognize that other points of view are valid. I have yet to see you post anything other than a lecture. No one likes that.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2004, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/68 "2004-07-13T20:59:52Z")

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> [@Lord Ashtar](#):
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> Just because someone else acts like an asshole doesn’t mean you have to sink to their level.

Too late! 😃

All kidding aside, **Aldebaran** tends to rub people the wrong way, what with the persistant displays of Amerophobia and a habit of looking for arguments where none exist.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2004, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/69 "2004-07-13T21:03:51Z")

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> [@Aldebaran](#):
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> Well, you can doubt it, yet it does exist. Since you are so interested maybe you can tell me that I read this completely wrong.
> 
> \*\*Quote:
> 
> I never said that you were the greatest scum one can imagine. Do not put words in my mouth. I have seen MUCH greater scum.
> 
> end quote\*\*
> 
> It is of course a great comfort that said administrator was so nice to declare to have seen alread MUCH greater scum then I am supposed to be.
> 
> Salaam. A

\*\*

Quote:

Allah sucks the greatest dick. Even better than my mom.

Salaam. (name removed to protect non-innocent)  
\*\*

Damn, that proved a lot.

-Joe, not much of a sucker

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**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2004, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/70 "2004-07-13T22:05:48Z")

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> [@Aldebaran](#):
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> Sarcasm? You mean as in : Clearly intended to say that I am not the greatest scum the moderator ever encountered on this board. Meaning that while I am scum, there were worse cases of scum in the past.
> 
> As I said, knowing that was such a great comfort to me.
> 
> Salaam. A

See, he _did_ learn something. You’d think somebody trying to commit suicide-by-mod would be a bit more competent about it though. **Keep trying!**

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2004, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/71 "2004-07-13T22:29:10Z")

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**Aldebaran** ----please. Take my advice.

Cool off.

Stop posting for a day or 3.

Do your deep breathing.

Yes, this is me, **Bosda**. The most raging, hysterical, semi-hypochondriac (sp?) on this Board.

Chill. You are losing you dignity on this one.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2004, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/72 "2004-07-13T22:44:04Z")

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> [@Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor](#):
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> Chill. You are losing you dignity on this one.

Can’t lose what you don’t have to begin with. 😃

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**Author:** ![cabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c67d28/32.png) [@cabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cabbit)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2004, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/73 "2004-07-13T23:08:15Z")

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> [@Aldebaran](#):
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> It was not meant to say that you agree or disagree with the current US adminitration.  
> It was meant to say that you obviously feel yourself to be a bit as if you were a citizen of the USA yourself, because you love a woman who is a US citizen.

Oh well OBVIOUSLY.

At least it’s obvious to those of us born with powers beyond the comprehension of mere Terrans.

I’m from Betelgeuse, where might you be from? Oh, never mind, I see that it’s Aldebaran.

_dons shiny helmet_

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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2004, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/74 "2004-07-14T00:15:28Z")

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Aldebaran has been such a monumental asshole for so long that frankly, if he’s still here ten months from now, that kind of blatant mod favoritism is going to make me question the board’s future and think long and hard about coughing up $15.

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2004, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/75 "2004-07-14T00:18:51Z")

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> [@furt](#):
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> Aldebaran has been such a monumental asshole for so long .

So what you’re saying is that he’s the south-end of a north-bound Sphinx?

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**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2004, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/76 "2004-07-14T00:43:25Z")

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
>
> Crystal clear actually.
> 
> Damn, all these years that I’ve thought that people from the Middle East might be different from each other, I was WRONG! I guess it doesn’t really matter what Middle Eastern country you’re from, as long as you are from the Middle East, I should know exactly what context you’re coming from because _they’re all the same_.
> 
> Thanks for clearing that up, Aldeberan.

THAT’S what I meant all this time! Why does he want to pretend he speaks for the entire ME? If I were a proud Arab, I would not be ashamed to let people know which part of that ancient and fascinating part of the world I am from.

Thanks, **Zakalwe** , for putting it better than I could.

If anybody cares, and I can’t blame you if you don’t, [here’s](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4682625&postcount=70) my contribution to a thread our man of mystery hijacked a few months ago that explains why he pushes my buttons.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2004, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/77 "2004-07-14T00:59:02Z")

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Funny, I could have sworn that little- **a** had been determined to be a pissed of Belgian grad student or something like that.

Man, I’ve got to keep up on the gossip. Ah well.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2004, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/78 "2004-07-14T02:16:39Z")

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> [@Aldebaran](#):
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> Sarcasm? You mean as in : Clearly intended to say that I am not the greatest scum the moderator ever encountered on this board. Meaning that while I am scum, there were worse cases of scum in the past.

Why is this starting to sound like a Lime-Away™ commercial?

I don’t think you’re the greatest scum I’ve ever encountered here either.

> [@](#):
>
> As I said, knowing that was such a great comfort to me.

It shouldn’t be.

> [@](#):
>
> Salaam. A

In case we don’t meet again - Salaam, baby.

> [@Mehitabel](#):
>
> Well, the question of the country you’re from is pertinent so we know where _you’re_ coming from, that’s all. I’m pretty sure you’re from SA because they have a great many wealthy people who sometimes marry Europeans, like your father did; that you married your first wife at age twenty, which means you’re not in some little tribal village because you’d have been married long before that…

He’s a counterman at a doughnut shop in Paterson, New Jersey. Thought that was settled a long time ago.

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**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2004, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/79 "2004-07-14T02:21:13Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
>
> He’s a counterman at a doughnut shop in Paterson, New Jersey. Thought that was settled a long time ago.

We can’t be expected to read every post by him.

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2004, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/80 "2004-07-14T02:33:10Z")

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aldeberan has been trying to get banned for a long time. I say let him stay, comic relief is a good thing. Anybody who believes that spending eternity with 70 virgins is a good thing is clearly retarded.

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