# Coldfire **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 13, 2004, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919 "2004-07-13T16:27:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2004, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/141 "2004-07-15T13:50:44Z")
> [@Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor](#): > > Because “American” **isn’t** a religious or ethnic group. So, it’s political. According to him, we’re all ignorant, obsessive, war-mongering lunatics, and a few other thing that I can’t think of at the moment. Sounds to me like he’s going after the population in general, not politics. Sounds like, to him, American _is_ an ethnic group. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2004, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/142 "2004-07-15T13:50:53Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Of course, anyone who’s not a damned dirty (fill in group of your choice here) knows that was supposed to be “thin” rather than “thing”. > > -Joe, not a professional editor **Merijeek** ’s running around with his “thing” hanging out! \< Nelson \> HA-HA! \< /Nelson \> :wally ---
**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2004, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/143 "2004-07-15T14:30:04Z")
Holy shit guys, I didn’t pay $15 for this crap. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2004, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/144 "2004-07-15T18:28:54Z")
> [@Aldebaran](#): > > I never thought I would ever make a thread myself ont his forum. Slight correction. That should be: “I never thought I would launch another train wreck here [like this one.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?&threadid=248576)” Sure, it’s picayune to point this out. But we must be true to the historical record. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2004, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/145 "2004-07-15T18:35:01Z")
> [@Colophon](#): > > Holy shit guys, I didn’t pay $15 for this crap. Don’t be so hard on yourself. It takes time to develop rhetorical skills. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2004, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/146 "2004-07-15T18:37:34Z")
I couldn’t help but notice that ol’ **Alde** has changed his location to “Not What Lynn Made Public.” Dude, you’ve been found out. We know where you’re from now, or at least from where you’re posting. Give it up. ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2004, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/147 "2004-07-15T19:11:44Z")
Maybe he’s a big _Hitchhiker’s_ fan and doesn’t think it polite to mention he’s from Belgium. But I had forgotten about the other Pit thread he started, even though I was mentioned in it. If the mods judge that he has changed enough between then and now and still has something useful to say before he starts to lash out (on average about 2-3 posts of his to a thread) then their judgement surpasses my poor discernment by a mile, since I sure can’t see it any more. ---
**Author:** ![Berkut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@Berkut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Berkut)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2004, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/148 "2004-07-15T19:31:25Z")
> [@Lord Ashtar](#): > > We know where you’re from now, or at least from where you’re posting. No we don’t. An IP address cannot be relied upon to provide someone’s location. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/149 "2004-07-16T02:10:06Z")
Whatever. Reread post #49. That with the IP address that **Lynn** traced and his need to change his location to say that it’s not where she said it is seems a bit too coincidental to me. ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/150 "2004-07-16T03:24:56Z")
> [@Berkut](#): > > No we don’t. An IP address cannot be relied upon to provide someone’s location. Just 'cause his IP shows him in Belgium,[why would we have any reason to believe he’s in Belgium? :rolleyes:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=3597073&highlight=Belgium#post3597073) ---
**Author:** ![Berkut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@Berkut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Berkut)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/151 "2004-07-16T03:35:28Z")
What I was saying (once again) is that you cannot rely on his IP address for that information. If you know, you know because he told you. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/152 "2004-07-16T04:17:20Z")
If you actually care where the hell he lives, it’s because you desperately need to get out of the house. No seriously, what does it really matter? ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/153 "2004-07-16T04:22:44Z")
> [@Grey](#): > > If you actually care where the hell he lives, it’s because you desperately need to get out of the house. > > No seriously, what does it really matter? Because, if I claim to know how it truly is in Da Hood, but I actually live in Beverley Motherfucking Hills, than I’m obviously full of shit, no? -Joe, thought it would be obvious ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/154 "2004-07-16T04:37:10Z")
Oh right, because his posts in general aren’t proof enough? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/155 "2004-07-16T06:34:21Z")
Which location makes him not/an asshole? Can we get much more petty? **Bosda** has been reduced to stale Simpsons jokes, and **Allbutbanned** is hiding in his hate-hole. Name jokes…HA! Oh, the answer to my first question is neither, it’s his attitude. This reminds me of the only time I’ve ever been warned before. Therefore, I shut up. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/156 "2004-07-16T10:14:37Z")
> [@Lord Ashtar](#): > > I couldn’t help but notice that ol’ **Alde** has changed his location to “Not What Lynn Made Public.” > . I must say that I would be interested in knowing why exactly \*\*Lynn \*\* disclosed this information, especially concerning a poster who had made pretty clear that he wasn’t willing to disclose it. Well…actually he didn’t hide that he lived, at least part time, in Belgium, but he’s unwilling to mention his country of origin. What if he has been posting from this country? Would have it been disclosed too? Surely, the board administrtors should have a good reason to publically disclose informations they can have about us? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/157 "2004-07-16T10:53:37Z")
> [@Lynn Bodoni](#): > > An IP check of this post reveals that the post originated in Belgium. Posters can put anything they like in the location field, but the IPs reveal the truth. Actually, they do not. But you should not have posted that in any case. From the [Privacy Policy](http://www.chicagoreader.com/privacy.html): > [@](#): > > Chicago Reader, Inc. respects your privacy and will never release any personal information about you without your consent. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/158 "2004-07-16T12:28:04Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Actually, they do not. But you should not have posted that in any case. From the [Privacy Policy](http://www.chicagoreader.com/privacy.html): I agree with this - very strongly. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/159 "2004-07-16T12:53:32Z")
The Privacy Policy gives examples of what the Reader considers to be personal information, e.g., “We do not and will not collect your **name, E-mail address** , or any other personal information without your consent”, “personal information such as **street and/or E-mail address, phone number, consumer preferences, etc.** ”. It further notes that “our server automatically logs your Internet domain or address (IP address) and the Web location you clicked from, so we can tell how many people visit each page and how they find us. If you click on an ad, your “click-through” is recorded so we can tell advertisers how many people are responding to their ads. **Neither of these procedures identifies you personally or collects any personal information about you.** ” So it’s pretty clear what kinds of information the Reader considers personal, and what it doesn’t. It’s not surprising that the two of you object. I just did a reverse DNS search on you both, and the results were the same: [stupid.headupmyass.wanker.com](http://stupid.headupmyass.wanker.com) ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919/160 "2004-07-16T13:00:15Z")
It is correct that the IP in se reveals no personal information. But when you look up the IP and reveal to the world where the person was ostensibly located, that is personal information. The privacy policy also doesn’t specify that it will not reveal whether people are abused spouses, but do you think that an administrator ought to announce that after having looked into it, he found that So-and-so is an abused spouse? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coldfire/254919.md?page=9)