# Colfire Not a warning part ii

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 12, 2003, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554 "2003-12-12T07:59:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/21 "2003-12-12T11:55:17Z")

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**Andy** , I got $5.00 here. I’ll donate it if you promise to buy a clue.

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**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/22 "2003-12-12T13:02:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Gary Kumquat \*  
> \*\*OK, I’m confused. What did you post that Margin demanded cites for. Could you link to your original post, and your cites for it?
> 
> Sorry if it’s included in the links you’ve given, but the board’s very slow and going through all your links is taking too long. \*\*

It’s probably in his neverending set of links, but the original post that **margin** as well as several other posters, objected to was that “feminists’” main goal is to secure the “final solution” of erasing men from the planet.’

That was the main one, but there was a bulleted list of other ones stating the feminists were attempting to place men in subservient positions in society, all sorts of ridiculous claims along those lines.

In response to a request for a cite (any cite) backing up these claims, **sal** provided personal experiences, books by feminists from the lunatic fringe (and published 30 or 40 years ago), and Science Fiction novels with feminine Utopia, or dystopia themes.

His claim that women have all this power to take away men’s rights, was thoroughly debunked by several links to the US Census, and other valid cites, by **margin**. **Left of Dorkness** , and me.

The ONE cite that wasn’t a cut and paste from an ancient lunatic fringe author, or a SciFi novel, was made by **catsix** , and it ended up supporting the “sorry feminists aren’t trying to disintegrate men” camp rather than **sal’s** and **catsix’s**.

No cite proving that “feminists are striving for the ‘final solution’ (that of the ultimate erasure of men from the planet)” was ever provided by **sal**.

And then it went on and on until it got closed. If the thread isn’t contained in one of **sal’s** links, it was called something like “What does the word “feminazi” mean to you”.

Hope that helps 🙂

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/23 "2003-12-12T13:05:38Z")

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…And another thing: Fire is hot, not cold, just who the hell does this flatlander think he is dishing out unscientific nonsense? Hmm?

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**Author:** ![Gadfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@Gadfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadfly)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/24 "2003-12-12T13:09:52Z")

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Deja deux.

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**Author:** ![Achilles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dc4da7/32.png) [@Achilles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achilles)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/25 "2003-12-12T13:10:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Mangetout \*  
> \*\*…And another thing: Fire is hot, not cold, just who the hell does this flatlander think he is dishing out unscientific nonsense? Hmm? \*\*

LOL. **Mangetout** - you rock.

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/26 "2003-12-12T13:14:32Z")

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We may be flat, but we’re to the East of you. So there.

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**Author:** ![Gadfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@Gadfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadfly)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/27 "2003-12-12T13:16:49Z")

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Mangetout - even though your name is blasphemous, since is is clearly Cthulu who will consume everything - you do indeed rock out with great vengeance and furious anger.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/28 "2003-12-12T13:26:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Coldfire \*  
> \*\*We may be flat, but we’re to the East of you. So there. \*\*

Meh! you say that like it’s a good thing. When Santa turns bad, I’ll have at least an hour longer to live than you!

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/29 "2003-12-12T13:32:53Z")

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Sorry, **Andy** , but I think they are cooking up bad things for you.

The new rule in the sticky reads as follows:

> [@](#):
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> _Originally posted by Lynn Bodoni_  
> If the ONLY reason you are here is to complain about the message board, the way it’s run, **the staff, or other posters** , this is a violation of the “Don’t Be A Jerk” rule. I would think that this is self-evident, but apparently it’s not. So if your posts are ONLY bitching about the board, **the staff, or other posters** , don’t be surprised if you are banned **without warning**.

Note the phrasing.

So, if you complain about “other posters” (never mind that this would lead to the banning of anyone who ever Pitted another poster), or “the staff” (meaning, in this case, **Coldfire** ), you will be banned “without warning”. Which bypasses the whole problem of how a mod can threaten you with banning without it being a warning.

Sorry, it appears you are on your way out. I enjoyed many of your posts.

Regards,  
Shodan

PS - **margin** ’s posts and tactics are beneath contempt.

PPS - Lest I be banned, I had better have something here besides complaining about the board, the mods, or other posters. Let’s see - darn that traffic this morning!

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**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/30 "2003-12-12T13:40:05Z")

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At least the heat of your meltdown will keep us warm on this cold winter day. Other then that, you’re behaving like a jackass. But given the last couple of threads on this issue, that appears to your new schtick.

If its Suicide By Mod you want, you certainly look to be on your way to getting it.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/31 "2003-12-12T13:56:25Z")

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I just want to add my apologies to **Achilles** for erroneously shortening **Achilles Last Stand** to his name. Didn’t mean to slander you like that.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Anniee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c77e96/32.png) [@Anniee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anniee)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/32 "2003-12-12T14:19:28Z")

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Shodan, you’re darn right about those tactics. Beneath contempt is the perfect way to put it. Too bad so few recognize it and CS is here to continue to **LIE** about it. Typical, though.

Shodan, I am not able to get an email off to you through the board; none is listed. So how about writing me; I’m [RunLolaRun451@aol.com](mailto:RunLolaRun451@aol.com)

There actually is a reason. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/33 "2003-12-12T14:28:49Z")

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Andy, please dude. Drop this. You don’t want to see the screen that says “You cannot access this page.”

Whip out that fountain of rolleyes and drop the whole thing.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/34 "2003-12-12T14:30:22Z")

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On the topic here, I’ll say two things. No, make that one thing – I don’t want to drag things out further.

1. [deleted on reflection]
2. What I think of the ongoing pro/antifeminist conflict should, please dear god, be irrelevant. ANDY! CATSIX! CANVASSHOES! MARGIN! ME! **FUCKING DROP IT ALREADY!**

As **Coldfire** mentioned, start a new thread in Great Debates if the subject is important. Otherwise, it is the height of absurdity to keep discussing two ancient threads in every new thread in which any of your enemies show up.

Find a new tune, or stop dancing.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![look\_ninjas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b2d939/32.png) [@look\_ninjas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/look_ninjas)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/35 "2003-12-12T14:35:47Z")

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**Andy** - Step away from the computer. Resist the urge to post further on this subject. Seriously, you’re only hurting yourself with this. _Let it drop_.

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**Author:** ![Gmork](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f19dbf/32.png) [@Gmork](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gmork)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/36 "2003-12-12T14:40:22Z")

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I just want to dance around a little inside this thread before the music fades and the mods usher us out…

_jig_

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/37 "2003-12-12T14:46:32Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Shodan \*  
> \*\*…Note the phrasing.
> 
> …
> 
> PPS - Lest I be banned, I had better have something here besides complaining about the board, the mods, or other posters. Let’s see - darn that traffic this morning! \*\*

Note the word “ONLY”. You’re safe. You comment on many things other than the board, the mods, or other posters. Is **Andy** safe? Probably not, the way he’s going.

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/38 "2003-12-12T14:50:40Z")

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Wait, wait, wait.

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> ## quote:
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> ## Originally posted by Lynn Bodoni If the ONLY reason you are here is to complain about the message board, the way it’s run, the staff, or other posters, this is a violation of the “Don’t Be A Jerk” rule. I would think that this is self-evident, but apparently it’s not. So if your posts are ONLY bitching about the board, the staff, or other posters, don’t be surprised if you are banned without warning.

> [@](#):
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> The BBQ Pit  
> If you gotta flame, do it here. This is the place for all complaints and other discussion regarding administration of the SDMB

:dubious::smack:

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/39 "2003-12-12T14:58:10Z")

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“Only”, Ilsa, “only”.

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2003, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/40 "2003-12-12T14:58:47Z")

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**Ilsa** , as **TYM** pointed out directly above you, if your posts on the board pretty much solely consist of bitching about the board/staff/posters, then apparently you signed up here just to be a jerk, so buh-bye. If that’s not the case, then that doesn’t apply to you.

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