# Colfire Not a warning part ii **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 12, 2003, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554 "2003-12-12T07:59:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/81 "2003-12-13T02:40:40Z")
[grooving] > [@](#): > > _Golden Earring_ > Now I’m steppin’ into the Twilight Zone > This is a madhouse > Feels like being home > My feet they can’t move > Under moon and star > Where am I to go > Now that I’ve gone too far > > You will come to know > When the bullet hits the bone > You will come to know > When the bullet hits the bone [/grooving] ---
**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/82 "2003-12-13T02:44:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Captain Amazing \* > … and how **Coldfire’s** mama dresses him funny… Telling the truth shouldn’t result in banning. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/83 "2003-12-13T02:45:24Z")
- throws a goat, headbangs fiercely \* RAWK ON!! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/84 "2003-12-13T02:46:30Z")
it doesn’t. am I supposed to say something funny now? ---
**Author:** ![Bandanaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3ab097/32.png) [@Bandanaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bandanaman)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/85 "2003-12-13T02:51:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by hajario \* > \*\*Seeing as he hasn’t posted about this since the OP which was like a day and a half ago, it looks to me like he already dropped it. > > Haj \*\* Well said. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/86 "2003-12-13T02:57:27Z")
> [@](#): > > **Coldfire** : I just informed the authorities in Vancouver, and the Mounties will be over shortly to confiscate that nice Maple Leaf passport of yours. Aw, crap. O’er t’Horton’s to plead for amnesty, _again_. ---
**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/87 "2003-12-13T03:12:54Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Captain Amazing \* > \*\* how **Coldfire’s** mama dresses him funny_\* Nitpick: I think it’s Coldie that dresses himself funny. I think his mom’s fashion sense could only help. ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/88 "2003-12-13T03:13:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Coldfire \* > **All right, that’s it. I just informed the authorities in Vancouver, and the Mounties will be over shortly to [toss you] over the border to Washington State, on account of unpatriotic Anti-Canadianism, or something.** Oh no, from B.C. to Seattle!! That’s like being forcibly relocated from, uhh, Bakersfield to Fresno, I guess. And no worries Coldie, Rush (the band) is GODLIKE in my book. But, just as the Judeo-Christian God created mosquitos and PMS, every deity makes mistakes. What gets me is that you’re like the _fifth_ person I’ve met whose named themselves after that bloody awful song. So I guess there’s good company in bad taste. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Train\_Song](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4da419/32.png) [@Black\_Train\_Song](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Black_Train_Song)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/89 "2003-12-13T03:25:48Z")
I’ll go out on a short limb here and side with SAL because I don’t see the point in banning someone who is not interrupting the flow of the board. If they post opinions contained within one thread that people don’t agree with, that’s hardly disruptive. To me, it’s a bad idea to warn or ban people who have ideas or opinions that aren’t popular because “ignorance” doesn’t usually reside in numbers, but just the opposite. Then there’s the junior mods who pre-warn, which only inflames the situation. Don’t read it if you don’t like it. There are plenty of topics. ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/90 "2003-12-13T04:22:34Z")
It’s not so much **Coldie** ’s love of Rush that bothers me, as his fandom of The Tea Party. Dude, if you’re going to listen to an obscure Canadian rock band, at least make it a good one! ---
**Author:** ![unclviny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e274bd/32.png) [@unclviny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unclviny)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/91 "2003-12-13T04:30:54Z")
My obscure Canadian rock band of choice is: FM Until a few years ago when I heard Geddy rap I was a big Rush fan but I am scared to listen to them now because Geddy has already shown that he could start rapping at any time! “my name is Geddy and I’m always ready, huhuhuhuhuhuhuh, booooiiiiyyy!”, yech! the Robert Plant disease is alive and well. unclviny ---
**Author:** ![Nightime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Nightime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightime)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/92 "2003-12-13T04:37:53Z")
> [@](#): > > Hmmm…mine seems to be the unpopular view here, but this is the very first time I have seen any poster sanctioned for failing to recognize hyperbole in a BBQ Pit rant. I’m not sure why you quoted me to make this point. I’m not sanctioning Andy. I’m just letting him know that he was being unfair to the Hallmark thread OP. It seems possible that, confronted with the extreme and probably calculated wrongness of margin, Andy has been driven to the opposite extreme, and is quick to attack anything that looks like it could be his enemy. Thus my advice that Andy should focus on remaining fair himself, rather than letting margin bait him into becoming a mean, unfair poster. Even if being mean and unfair is par for the course in the BBQ pit. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/93 "2003-12-13T04:44:20Z")
Geddy rapped? Where? If you’re referring to the -admittedly cheesy- rap bit in Roll the Bones, I was always under the impression that that part was sung by Alex Lifeson. Am I mistaken? ---
**Author:** ![Mithril](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mithril/32/3517_2.png) [@Mithril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mithril)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/94 "2003-12-13T05:52:15Z")
I don’t see how it could be Geddy without some hardcore editing. His voice is just too high. I checked the liner notes, but it doesn’t say. As I recall, during the concert (latest tour), none of the guys had their lips moving when that part of Roll the Bones was on. ---
**Author:** ![Mithril](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mithril/32/3517_2.png) [@Mithril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mithril)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/95 "2003-12-13T05:56:31Z")
OK, I just checked the Rush in Rio DVD, and nobody has their lips moving during the rap. But nobody gets credit in the liner notes for the rap, either. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/96 "2003-12-13T06:43:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Coldfire \* > \*\*Dude. It’s like me claiming the Golden Earring suck. It’s just not _done_, man. \*\* Umm…they do suck. You know that, don’t you **Coldfire**? _Ducks and runs out of the thread_ ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/97 "2003-12-13T08:46:21Z")
According to the [Rush FAQ](http://www.nimitz.net/rush/faq3ans.html#134), the rap is by Geddy. And for God’s sake, Geddy _never_ rapped “my name is Geddy and I’m always ready, booooiiiiyyy!” – I’d disown them on the spot, if he ever did that! The actual rap is annoying, but cute and inoffensive: > [@](#): > > Jack – relax. > Get busy with the facts. > No zodiacs or almanacs, > No maniacs in polyester slacks. > Just the facts. > Gonna kick some gluteus max. > It’s a parallax – you dig? > You move around > The small gets big. It’s a rig > It’s action – reaction – > Random interaction. > So who’s afraid > Of a little abstraction? > Can’t get no satisfaction > From the facts? > You better run, homeboy – > A fact’s a fact > From Nome to Rome, boy. > What’s the deal? Spin the wheel. > If the dice are hot – take a shot. > Play your cards. Show us what you got – > What you’re holding. > If the cards are cold, > Don’t go folding. > Lady Luck is golden; > She favors the bold. That’s cold > Stop throwing stones – > The night has a thousand saxophones. > So get out there and rock, > And roll the bones. > Get busy! Hope that excerpt wasn’t too long for fair use…bah, Coldie will redact it if it is. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![jackelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@jackelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackelope)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/98 "2003-12-13T08:57:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by KGS \* > **The actual rap is annoying, but cute and inoffensive.** “Cute and inoffensive”; now THAT says “good rock and roll”! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/99 "2003-12-13T09:18:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Nightime \* > \*\*I’m not sure why you quoted me to make this point. > > I’m not sanctioning Andy. I’m just letting him know that he was being unfair to the Hallmark thread OP. > > It seems possible that, confronted with the extreme and probably calculated wrongness of margin, Andy has been driven to the opposite extreme, and is quick to attack anything that looks like it could be his enemy. > > Thus my advice that Andy should focus on remaining fair himself, rather than letting margin bait him into becoming a mean, unfair poster. Even if being mean and unfair is par for the course in the BBQ pit. \*\* Didn’t mean to blame you for anything, Nightime.🙂 You just happened to encapsulate the point very well that I was trying to address. My apologies if I insinuated anything else. ---
**Author:** ![Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satisfying_Andy_Licious)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/100 "2003-12-13T18:32:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by spogga \* > \*\*ANDY: This is the first time I have posted in this or the other thread and I have this to say. > > You have seen your arse and maybe COLDFIRE has also. > > So call it a tie and keep your status, it just aint worth getting banned for. > Now then about those flying pigs I saw yesterday. \*\* I’ve seen my arse? But that’s behind me now. (But seriously, spogga, I don’t get the slang, but I guess you’re saying we’ve both seen our mistakes? I **am** willing to call it a tie if Coldfire will leave the thread open long enough to explain the rule on how commenting on the validity of a rant constitutes a highjack. I have also emailed him expressing my regret that we got off on the wrong foot. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Knowed Out \* > \*\* > > and where the hell is Knottoush Abbey??? \*\* Don’t ask where it is. Ask what it’s like. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Shodan \* > \*\*Sorry, **Andy** , but I think they are cooking up bad things for you. > > The new rule in the sticky reads as follows: (snip) > \*\* Thanks, Shodan. 1,600 posts and I’ve made a total of two questioning Coldfire’s actions. Would that apply to me? > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Early Out \* > \*\*It’ll be a shame to see such a good screen name ending up unused. \*\* Maybe I could auction it off. What am I bid for this fine, one-owner user name?\* > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Who\_me? \* > \*\ ***Andy** , I got $5.00 here. I’ll donate it if you promise to buy a clue. \*\* Nice of you to dip into your hentai subscription fund. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Coldfire \* > \*\*Watch it buddy, or I’ll invent a “Do not blaspheme about the Toronto Trinity” rule. On the spot. 🙂 \*\* No highjacks, please. \*\*\* joke.\*\* [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554.md?page=6)