# Colfire Not a warning part ii **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 12, 2003, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554 "2003-12-12T07:59:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Achilles\_Last\_Stand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a87d85/32.png) [@Achilles\_Last\_Stand](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achilles_Last_Stand)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/101 "2003-12-13T20:54:09Z")
Andy, you are 100% correct about Ginmar/Margin. It has misrepresented itself on this subject numerous times. It said it was not aware of what feminists do to men, what they say and no experience with Ms. Now that we know what it is, don’t let it get you banned. I call it an it because for all I know it has no gender, no more than it has a clue. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/102 "2003-12-13T21:30:47Z")
Only about a quarter of your posts are not in the BBQ Pit, **Achilles Last Stand** , so I can only conclude that you’re just posting on the SDMB because you like to harass other people. Goodbye. Lynn For the Straight Dope ---
**Author:** ![Slainte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a698b9/32.png) [@Slainte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slainte)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/103 "2003-12-13T22:39:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Satisfying Andy Licious \* > \*\*I am willing to call it a tie if Coldfire will leave the thread open long enough to explain the rule on how commenting on the validity of a rant constitutes a highjack. > \*\* I stayed out of the last thread (and the first two pages of this one) but I’d like to say a few things in general since you brought this up: The thread was hyperbolic and blowing off steam - I’m quite sure you could discern this; if you couldn’t, I explained it _three times_. Even so, you were doing your best to be insulting even while it was still in MPSIMS: > [@](#): > > Me, too. People who cry “victim” on the slightest pretext :rolleyes: You hijacked it into a feminism debate that wasn’t there, even after I said this: > [@](#): > > I don’t think I’m being oppressed by Hallmark or anything, I was just venting an annoyance. And your cite was valid only for online shopping/e-cards. I was in a brick and mortar Hallmark store. Do you _honestly_ think you were just “commenting on the validity” of my OP? I don’t, I think you were going out of your way to be an ass from the beginning, and even after I explained myself to you more than once. You could have made your point a lot more gracefully and/or stopped after the first swing and avoided this whole mess. ---
**Author:** ![Anniee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c77e96/32.png) [@Anniee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anniee)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/104 "2003-12-13T23:24:34Z")
Oh for god’s sake, slainte, it was a whiny little bitch about how prejudiced they are against women, and Andy pointed out that it was bull. Which it was. Your demurrals are weaker than your rant. Then ginmar and canvas and caueh (whatEVER) show up to bring up old grudges that had no bearing on the topic, and **they** started slinging shit, but no one gave a damn about that. Misogynist! Crazy man with an agenda! Extremist! (Yeah RIGHT, guess what? Anyone with a clue should have known long ago that they were the extremist morons with a crazy agenda, but somehow that escaped the notice of the allegedly enlightened.) But who gets warned? :roll: If the mods had any sense they’d have banned ginmar and company (or at least issued stern multiple warnings) back on the feminism thread that they **TROLLED** while Andy calmly and civilly presented facts and laid out a case, and they would have been surely banned for slinging shit in his face months later for no reason (god knows he’s warned for daring to bring it up again - gee funny how it works when people are dealt with unjustly and then subjected to idiot extremists LYING about it months later; funny how people don’t want to roll over and take it up the ass when that happens, huh? :roll: ) Since clearly the mods do not have any sense and do not deal fairly or impartially, and also that the slant of the population is also in that camp and can’t see the obvious, please delete my registration (ban, whatever the hell you want to call it) and I’ll bid my own adieu along with David Byron and Achilles Last Stand. Andy is too good for this shit too; hopefully he realizes that, along with a couple others who see the obvious. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/105 "2003-12-14T00:09:44Z")
Why are you asking to be banned? Why not just leave? ---
**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/106 "2003-12-14T00:56:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lord Ashtar \* > \*\*Why are you asking to be banned? Why not just leave? \*\* Cause it’s not as satisfying as proclaiming your martyrdom. ---
**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/107 "2003-12-14T05:26:17Z")
Well, Golden Earring sucks. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/108 "2003-12-14T06:20:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gum \* > \*\*Well, Golden Earring sucks. \*\* But they weren’t whiny martyr wannabees. ---
**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/109 "2003-12-14T06:33:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by andros \* > \*\*But they weren’t whiny martyr wannabees. \*\* That would be Journey. ---
**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/110 "2003-12-14T10:46:28Z")
Who’s Martyr Wannabees? Didn’t he have an album called ‘Cry me a River’? ---
**Author:** ![cuauhtemoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cuauhtemoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuauhtemoc)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/111 "2003-12-14T16:44:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Anniee \* > **But who gets warned? :roll:** No one. **Andy** was explicitly _not_ warned for his behavior in that thread. **Coldfire** made a point of saying that his comments did _not_ constitute an official warning. > [@](#): > > \*\* > Since clearly the mods do not have any sense and do not deal fairly or impartially, and also that the slant of the population is also in that camp and can’t see the obvious, please delete my registration (ban, whatever the hell you want to call it) and I’ll bid my own adieu along with David Byron and Achilles Last Stand. Andy is too good for this shit too; hopefully he realizes that, along with a couple others who see the obvious. \*\* So long, moron. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/112 "2003-12-14T17:36:40Z")
Ya know, it looks to me as if we need a new forum on the SDMB: The Martyr Forum. Then all the members who want to whine and pule and moan and blither about how unfair and mean and stupid and (fill in the blank) the mods and admins are, and how closeminded and unfair and stupid and (fill in the blank) the rest of the Dopers are, and how they’re wasting their time trying to spread enlightenment here, can make their dramatic declarations of departure. And the rest of us can bid them a hearty “Bon Voyage!” ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/113 "2003-12-14T18:40:55Z")
> [@](#): > > And the rest of us can bid them a hearty “Bon Voyage!” …while the banned play “Nearer, My God, To Thee”? ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/114 "2003-12-14T19:55:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gum \* > \*\*Who’s Martyr Wannabees? Didn’t he have an album called ‘Cry me a River’? \*\* Yup. Their gitarist was known to personally own the world’s smallest violin, too. My favourite song of theirs was “Get off the fucking cross, we need the fucking wood”. Ahem. **Moderator Notes:** Dear **Anniee**. There’s no need to ban you (since you’ve not really broken a rule yet, unless all of your 200-odd posts are about criticising the administration). We don’t have a deregistration process in place, either. So I’m afraid if you don’t like it here, we’ll have to skip the martyr process, and you can just, well, not post anymore. Easier on you, easier on us. Bye now. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/115 "2003-12-14T20:15:23Z")
That was a good song, **Coldfire** , but my favorite by the Martyr Wannabees is “Tears of a Clown”. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/116 "2003-12-14T20:32:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by vanilla \* > am I supposed to say something funny now? What, and break with your long-standing tradition? ---
**Author:** ![Venus\_Isle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/47e85d/32.png) [@Venus\_Isle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Venus_Isle)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/117 "2003-12-14T20:54:05Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by GMRujin_ **Cause it’s not as satisfying as proclaiming your martyrdom.** And it’s not as satisfying as avoiding what the person said by posting ad hominem, hmm? Facts are facts, some like reading and appreciate them for what they are, and others read and look for reasons to attack under the guise of “agreeing”, right, GMRyujin ? I never knew you couldn’t post in the pit against someone’s point of view and give as good as you get without having tenure or at least a majority of your posts in another category. I either missed that when I joined or it has just been implemented, maybe it just falls under the “Jerk” policy, which to me is as tangible as feeling for Charlie Manson, you can always feel but just not reach, know what I mean? LOL. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Coldfire \* > \*\*Yup. Their gitarist was known to personally own the world’s smallest violin, too. My favourite song of theirs was “Get off the fucking cross, we need the fucking wood”. > > Ahem. > > **Moderator Notes:** > > Dear **Anniee**. There’s no need to ban you (since you’ve not really broken a rule yet, unless all of your 200-odd posts are about criticising the administration). We don’t have a deregistration process in place, either. So I’m afraid if you don’t like it here, we’ll have to skip the martyr process, and you can just, well, not post anymore. Easier on you, easier on us. Bye now. \*\* I can’t see where anyone has earned a banning on the spot yet on this matter. Achilles Last Stand was obviously banned because of popular opinion and not for ignoring any warnings made to him/her. I didn’t see where Achilles Last Stand criticised the administration. I have seen many people here attack others on this matter, call them trolls and even lie, and they are STILL here. But I suppose as I pointed out to GMRujin, glossing over the facts and creating straw men beats fair and just treatment for all. Your “Jerk” policy was written by a jerk. Ban me, too, I don’t give a fuck. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/118 "2003-12-14T20:55:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Larry Mudd \* > \*\*…while the banned play “Nearer, My God, To Thee”? \*\* You’ve just made my day **Larry**. Now I can start my Monday morning with a smile on me’ face. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Venus\_Isle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/47e85d/32.png) [@Venus\_Isle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Venus_Isle)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/119 "2003-12-14T20:58:48Z")
Oh, and one last thing, I am not your fucking martyr, don’t even start getting that idea into your addled lefty fascist tumor you call a brain, your fucking moderator Lynn is a poster at Ms. magazine and she is another lying two faced fucking dyke bitch. Cackle all you wish you dumb fucks, the only thing you cannot change is I have your number and you fucking well know it. Just like the Governor of Homofornia, **I’ll be back!!!** BAWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! LOSERS!!! ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554/120 "2003-12-14T21:07:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Venus Isle \* > \*\* LOSERS!!! \*\* What an unpleasant person. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colfire-not-a-warning-part-ii/218554.md?page=7)