# Colibri insulting me then warning me for taking him to task.

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**Created:** [October 18, 2018, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-insulting-me-then-warning-me-for-taking-him-to-task/823118 "2018-10-18T00:56:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-insulting-me-then-warning-me-for-taking-him-to-task/823118/1 "2018-10-18T00:56:34Z")

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I don’t get how I insulted Colibri other than not taking him quite as seriously as he perhaps thinks was required.

> [@When did oral sex become a common part of sex?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-oral-sex-become-a-common-part-of-sex/822902/160):
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> **Moderator Note**
> 
> That’s enough. I’ve been patient with this nonsense so far, including insulting comments directed toward me that I would have moderated had you said them to anyone else. This is a note for trolling and generally being a jerk.
> 
> If you can’t contribute to this thread in a substantive way, then I’m going to instruct you to drop out of it.
> 
> Any complaint about this should be taken to ATMB.
> 
> Colibri  
> General Questions Moderator

I mean let’s get something straight, HE commented that I was doing oral sex wrong because my face often comes into proximity of my partner’s bum. Since I’ve been having sex for a while now, that struck me as a rather peculiar assertion. He refused to retract it. And my pressing the issue apparently is worth a mod note?

Let’s get this clear: he insulted my sexual prowess with an obviously ridiculous position (ha!) and I’m given a warning for politely asking for an apology, retraction or argument to explain the situation himself.

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**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-insulting-me-then-warning-me-for-taking-him-to-task/823118/2 "2018-10-18T01:10:54Z")

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Link?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-insulting-me-then-warning-me-for-taking-him-to-task/823118/3 "2018-10-18T01:13:07Z")

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It’s just a note, what’s the big deal? There’s already pages of back and forth seeming to go nowhere in the thread. How much time do you want to spend beating around the bush?

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-insulting-me-then-warning-me-for-taking-him-to-task/823118/4 "2018-10-18T01:14:22Z")

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Here’s a link.

[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=863857&page=3](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=863857&page=3)

You should have gotten a warning.

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**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-insulting-me-then-warning-me-for-taking-him-to-task/823118/5 "2018-10-18T01:15:10Z")

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Too lazy to read the thread again, but I thought he said you were doing it wrong because you said your face came into contact with fecal matter.

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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-insulting-me-then-warning-me-for-taking-him-to-task/823118/6 "2018-10-18T01:20:01Z")

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He was polite and joking. You were insulting and a jerk.  
You deserved it.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-insulting-me-then-warning-me-for-taking-him-to-task/823118/7 "2018-10-18T01:22:59Z")

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> [@steatopygia](#):
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> He was polite and joking. You were insulting and a jerk.  
> You deserved it.

I agree. Colibri deserved some push back and I was pretty darn pokite (besides using the word “ass” which was kinda unavoidable) Isn’t there an informal rule about Mods moderating their own discussions? Pretty outrageous.

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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-insulting-me-then-warning-me-for-taking-him-to-task/823118/8 "2018-10-18T01:28:54Z")

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🙂

You really gonna pick this mons to die on?

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**Author:** ![Sloe\_Moe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Sloe\_Moe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sloe_Moe)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-insulting-me-then-warning-me-for-taking-him-to-task/823118/9 "2018-10-18T01:32:30Z")

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I must say the thread is the most distasteful topic in GQ and it just keeps getting bumped up. Therefore every poster (myself included) deserves some A-hole points.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-insulting-me-then-warning-me-for-taking-him-to-task/823118/10 "2018-10-18T02:05:38Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> I don’t get how I insulted Colibri other than not taking him quite as seriously as he perhaps thinks was required.
> 
> I mean let’s get something straight, HE commented that I was doing oral sex wrong because my face often comes into proximity of my partner’s bum. Since I’ve been having sex for a while now, that struck me as a rather peculiar assertion. He refused to retract it. And my pressing the issue apparently is worth a mod note?

Deliberately distorting the exchange and what happened in the thread doesn’t help your complaint. Let’s review:

> [@When did oral sex become a common part of sex?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-oral-sex-become-a-common-part-of-sex/822902/111):
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> Yes, humans love sex but they are also adverse to sticking their face into fecal matter. Well, most of them anyways.

> [@When did oral sex become a common part of sex?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-oral-sex-become-a-common-part-of-sex/822902/112):
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> If you’re sticking your face into fecal matter when you’re engaged in oral sex then you’re doing it wrong.😉

First, the remark wasn’t directed at you personally. Second, I made it clear in further comments that “doing it wrong” referred to sticking your face in fecal matter, not “getting your face near your partner’s bum.”

These were the insulting comments you made to me made in response:

> [@When did oral sex become a common part of sex?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-oral-sex-become-a-common-part-of-sex/822902/113):
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> Poor guy’s never done a 69 lecturing me on sex. ☹

> [@When did oral sex become a common part of sex?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-oral-sex-become-a-common-part-of-sex/822902/135):
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> You ducked the question, I see. You can just say you’ve never done a 69. No shame.

Now if you had said that to another poster besides myself, I would have issued a warning. I refrained only because I had been involved in the discussion.

> [@](#):
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> Let’s get this clear: he insulted my sexual prowess with an obviously ridiculous position (ha!) and I’m given a warning for politely asking for an apology, retraction or argument to explain the situation himself.

I didn’t issue you a warning, but a note. You were trolling and being jerkish throughout the thread, deliberately distorting other people’s positions.

You’re engaging in exactly the same behavior now. Trolling in response to a note for trolling isn’t going to convince anyone a note wasn’t warranted.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-insulting-me-then-warning-me-for-taking-him-to-task/823118/11 "2018-10-18T02:12:52Z")

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Wrong. Despite your vaunted "evolution biology " degree, whatever that is, the fact remains that human pubic hair is constantly anointed with fecal matter, sometimes directly but often the same way bellybutton lint is formed. Through sweat deposits. Your ignorance of that is perfectly understandable but you chose to make your ignorance a point of pride. Not cool. Especially not cool: using your mod powers to hammer your ignorance.

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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-insulting-me-then-warning-me-for-taking-him-to-task/823118/12 "2018-10-18T02:18:20Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Wrong. Despite your vaunted "evolution biology " degree, whatever that is, the fact remains that human pubic hair is constantly anointed with fecal matter, sometimes directly but often the same way bellybutton lint is formed. Through sweat deposits. Your ignorance of that is perfectly understandable but you chose to make your ignorance a point of pride. Not cool. Especially not cool: using your mod powers to hammer your ignorance.

Bullshit. Cite?

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-insulting-me-then-warning-me-for-taking-him-to-task/823118/13 "2018-10-18T02:34:13Z")

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Cite that it is Bullshit??

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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-insulting-me-then-warning-me-for-taking-him-to-task/823118/14 "2018-10-18T02:39:39Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Cite that it is Bullshit??

That would be especially impressive. A cite for pubic hair being "constantly anointed with fecal matter’ would be acceptable.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-insulting-me-then-warning-me-for-taking-him-to-task/823118/15 "2018-10-18T02:45:19Z")

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> [@Mr.Nylock](#):
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> It’s just a note, what’s the big deal? There’s already pages of back and forth seeming to go nowhere in the thread. How much time do you want to spend beating around the bush?

_golf clap_

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-insulting-me-then-warning-me-for-taking-him-to-task/823118/16 "2018-10-18T02:54:20Z")

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> [@steatopygia](#):
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> That would be especially impressive. A cite for pubic hair being "constantly anointed with fecal matter’ would be acceptable.

So you think sweat magically defies gravity and doesn’t enter the buttcrack? Or failing that, it magically doesn’t absorb material along the way? Or failing that, pubic hair magically doesn’t catch any of that sweat? That’s what you want me to cite? That magic doesn’t happen? :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-insulting-me-then-warning-me-for-taking-him-to-task/823118/17 "2018-10-18T03:05:26Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> So you think sweat magically defies gravity and doesn’t enter the buttcrack? Or failing that, it magically doesn’t absorb material along the way? Or failing that, pubic hair magically doesn’t catch any of that sweat? That’s what you want me to cite? That magic doesn’t happen? :rolleyes:

“The feces odors come from a brew of indoles which have either thiol or amine substitutions or both … to which our noses are sensitive in exquisite degree … we can smell them at concentrations lower than we can smell methyl-mercaptan (the common odorant added to natural gas) … and because it takes so little of these species to make a stink, it’s hard to sort them out from all the rest of the shit.”

I Don’t think many people here would say that they smell shit while indulging in Carnal O.

I stand by my first post, " He was polite and joking. You were insulting and a jerk.  
You deserved it."

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-insulting-me-then-warning-me-for-taking-him-to-task/823118/18 "2018-10-18T03:08:20Z")

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You got a note?

Suck it up.  
And more seriously, how do you want to define fecal material? Really how much? Because your standard reminds me of what a pediatric infectious disease professor once lectured: “If you are in a house with a toddler there _is_ a microscopic level of poop on every surface. No matter how much you clean it is there. Just accept that fact and move on.”

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-insulting-me-then-warning-me-for-taking-him-to-task/823118/19 "2018-10-18T03:57:32Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> _golf clap_

This discussion is bad enough without bringing STDs into it. Caught from a club no doubt.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-insulting-me-then-warning-me-for-taking-him-to-task/823118/20 "2018-10-18T04:21:49Z")

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Yeah, sorry, CarnalK, you were (and still are) coming across as pretty jerkish on this.

You, in post 129 of that thread:

> [@When did oral sex become a common part of sex?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-oral-sex-become-a-common-part-of-sex/822902/124):
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> Exactly how many traditional culture people’s bums have you inspected in order to speak with such authority? Are they the ones who taught you how to do a 69 with no ass to face proximity?

To which Colibri replied, in post 128, in what I thought was a very mature fashion, that he _has_ spent extensive time in contact with traditional cultures, without saying, “so there!” (which you totally would have deserved):

> [@When did oral sex become a common part of sex?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-oral-sex-become-a-common-part-of-sex/822902/128):
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> I’ve worked among or spent time with traditional cultures in Central America (Embera, Guna, Ngabe-Bugle, Teribe), South America (Yaminawa, Machiguenga and others; one of my field assistants was an adult before his tribe was contacted by missionaries), Africa (pygmies, Maasai), New Guinea (Arfak mountains), and Melanesia (Fiji). What is your opinion based on?
> 
> I’ve spent months living with the Embera. They are very cleanly. In villages that lack latrines, they have a specific place where people go to defecate, and they bathe frequently. I’ve never noticed that any other person from a traditional culture had any odor of fecal matter about them. They might sometimes smell of sweat, but not of that.

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