# Colibri is wrong about Walter Scott **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [April 9, 2015, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-is-wrong-about-walter-scott/717243 "2015-04-09T18:39:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-is-wrong-about-walter-scott/717243/21 "2015-04-09T23:05:40Z")
Still waiting to find out when I became a journalist. I’m going to demand Ed double my pay. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-is-wrong-about-walter-scott/717243/22 "2015-04-09T23:15:30Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > Well, ya all are welcome to your _opinions,_ but that is no comfort to Mr. Scott’s family or any black man in public in America, and it is a **fact** that your opinions are no comfort to the violent racism. Although it has oft been said that one is entitled to one’s own opinions, but not one’s own **facts** , the denial that has raged through the US for several centuries over racism and cops hating on black people (and killing them at will) should have been put to rest yesterday. But not a single one of the people posting in this thread will have their opinion changed by the **facts**. I do not think that word means what you think it means. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-is-wrong-about-walter-scott/717243/23 "2015-04-09T23:17:05Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Does **Colibri** moderate with a heavy hand? Yes. > Was he wrong in this instance? No. > > Spoken as one who has had his own run-ins with the Mod in question. **Colibri** was correct in calling you on the comment and correct in issuing a warning. I mostly agree, altho his hand is not that heavy, all things considered. He has the one “mostly no BS” forum, and we post a plot of BS. But he was absolutely correct here. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-is-wrong-about-walter-scott/717243/24 "2015-04-09T23:20:59Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > I won’t speak for Colibri or any other GQ mods but I felt it was acceptable in GD. Right, and GQ is more or less “no politics”. Despite Sam having some truth to his statement, it was both inflammatory and political. It had no place in GQ. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-is-wrong-about-walter-scott/717243/25 "2015-04-09T23:35:36Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > I do not think that word means what you think it means. Who died and gave you the right to change my quotes by adding emphasis (bolding) to words I did not bold? Please don’t change my quotes even one iota. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-is-wrong-about-walter-scott/717243/26 "2015-04-09T23:44:43Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > Who died and gave you the right to change my quotes by adding emphasis (bolding) to words I did not bold? Please don’t change my quotes even one iota. While it would have been better had **silenus** added a comment such as, “My bolding,” such modification of quotes is allowed. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-is-wrong-about-walter-scott/717243/27 "2015-04-09T23:45:44Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Still waiting to find out when I became a journalist. Right after you became an artist. It’s the normal progression around here. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-is-wrong-about-walter-scott/717243/28 "2015-04-09T23:45:51Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Still waiting to find out when I became a journalist. I’m going to demand Ed double my pay. Don’t do it, Loach! I might be the only mod now around who has been a journalist. The pay’s better right here as a mod. Trust me. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-is-wrong-about-walter-scott/717243/29 "2015-04-09T23:48:45Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Don’t do it, Loach! I might be the only mod now around who has been a journalist. The pay’s better right here as a mod. Trust me. I figure if I can get two mugs I can have Earl Grey in one and Irish Breakfast in the other. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-is-wrong-about-walter-scott/717243/30 "2015-04-09T23:55:28Z")
I’m thinking more Irish Coffee, myself. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-is-wrong-about-walter-scott/717243/31 "2015-04-09T23:57:15Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > Who died and gave you the right to change my quotes by adding emphasis (bolding) to words I did not bold? Please don’t change my quotes even one iota. Request denied. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-is-wrong-about-walter-scott/717243/32 "2015-04-09T23:57:17Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > I’m thinking more Irish Coffee, myself. I’m a teatotaler. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-is-wrong-about-walter-scott/717243/33 "2015-04-10T00:15:07Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > While it would have been better had **silenus** added a comment such as, “My bolding,” such modification of quotes is allowed. I would have had no problem with it if he had written that the bolding was his. Without acknowledging the change, it is impermissible and severely intellectually dishonest to change the emphasis of a quote. Not as bad as being shot in the back eight times, but it is scummy and low and a crime against intellectual integrity. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-is-wrong-about-walter-scott/717243/34 "2015-04-10T00:18:15Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > I would have had no problem with it if he had written that the bolding was his. Without acknowledging the change, it is impermissible and severely intellectually dishonest to change the emphasis of a quote. Not as bad as being shot in the back eight times, but it is scummy and low and a crime against intellectual integrity. Not nearly as low or slimy as calling a police shooting ‘summary execution’ or ‘facts’, since you don’t seem to know what either of those words/phrases means, but hell, if the Mods are good with what is obviously an wildly hyperbolic statement bordering on…well, never mind…at any rate, if they are good with it then there you go. Feel free to report the inappropriate bolding of ‘facts’ in your post to the Mods instead of whining about it. That’s what the ‘report post’ button is for, after all. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-is-wrong-about-walter-scott/717243/35 "2015-04-10T00:21:37Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > I would have had no problem with it if he had written that the bolding was his. Without acknowledging the change, it is impermissible and severely intellectually dishonest to change the emphasis of a quote. Not as bad as being shot in the back eight times, but it is scummy and low and a crime against intellectual integrity. And the rest of us have no problem with you expressing your opinions or making requests. But declaring your opinions are facts and ordering people to obey your rules isn’t going to go over well. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-is-wrong-about-walter-scott/717243/36 "2015-04-10T00:24:53Z")
> [@XT](#): > > Feel free to report the inappropriate bolding of ‘facts’ in your post to the Mods instead of whining about it. That’s what the ‘report post’ button is for, after all. I take care of my own problems pointing them out to the offender and letting him know what I think and wouldn’t waste my time using the ‘report post’ button. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-is-wrong-about-walter-scott/717243/37 "2015-04-10T00:25:23Z")
Everyone just calm down. Most of this isn’t acceptable in ATMB. Any more and I’ll close the thread. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-is-wrong-about-walter-scott/717243/38 "2015-04-10T00:33:30Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > I take care of my own problems pointing them out to the offender and letting him know what I think and wouldn’t waste my time using the ‘report post’ button. Well, good to see you take that you yourself and don’t bother the Mods, who are apparently fine with it. As JC wants everyone to calm down and back off, and since we wouldn’t want this great thread locked, I’ll bid you ado at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-is-wrong-about-walter-scott/717243/39 "2015-04-10T00:53:29Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Don’t do it, Loach! I might be the only mod now around who has been a journalist. The pay’s better right here as a mod. Trust me. I thought Samclem was one too. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-is-wrong-about-walter-scott/717243/40 "2015-04-10T01:03:48Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > No, he’s saying the video doesn’t implicate the State because most of it was out of frame. Lucky break. Bullshit, did you not see the jump-edit at 4:20? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-is-wrong-about-walter-scott/717243.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibri-is-wrong-about-walter-scott/717243.md?page=3)