# Colibri's insult in General Questions **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [June 11, 2016, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibris-insult-in-general-questions/757139 "2016-06-11T19:36:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibris-insult-in-general-questions/757139/1 "2016-06-11T19:36:51Z")
In the “[Is Hillary Clinton being criminally investigated?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=795359)” thread (mow in GD after it was moved from GQ), \*\* Moderator Colibri\*\* respond to the comment below thusly: [QUOTE=Colibri] [QUOTE=UberArchetype] Anyone’s education on the rules and laws pertaining to U.S. Government classified material at the expense of my time, is over. [/QUOTE] It doesn’t appear we have lost anything of value. [/QUOTE] **UberArchetype** responds: > [@](#): > > Yet you have gained a disturbing doubt about the ever-thinning ice queen Billary treads. > > Lucky you! 😛 To which **Colibri** replies: > [@](#): > > Political jabs are not permitted in General Questions. No warning issued, but don’t do this again. When **UberArchetype** replies: > [@](#): > > What about insults? I would assume those are taboo as well. I am referring to your assessment of the veracity of my knowledge, of which you are clearly ignorant: … **Colibri** then replies: > [@](#): > > Moderator Instructions > > If you wish to discuss moderation, start a thread in ATMB. Further discussion here may be subject to a warning. At that point, **UberArchetype** doen’t reply again. Not sure if this belongs here or in The Pit, but JFC, why couldn’t have **Colibri** simply apologized…something along the lines of “Oops, got the forums confused. Sorry about that.” That would have been the simple thing to do—and the right thing to do. Instead, he pulls up his jackboots and it results in a dickish exchange. To be clear, with none of the responsibility falling to **UberArchetype**. Yet one more example of a Mod creating ill will because of a reflexive instinct to not admit a mistake and apologize. It’s friggin’ ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibris-insult-in-general-questions/757139/2 "2016-06-11T19:52:09Z")
The remark wasn’t directed at the poster, but at the poster’s reference to “my time”, that he might spend educating the rest of us [lucky souls]. ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibris-insult-in-general-questions/757139/3 "2016-06-11T20:14:38Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > The remark wasn’t directed at the poster, but at the poster’s reference to “my time”, that he might spend educating the rest of us [lucky souls]. \*\*UberArchetype’\*\*s time wasn’t valuable because Colibri was insinuating he didn’t know what he was talking about. That is clearly an insult to the poster and not any specific posts. This is minor, but **Colibri** was in the wrong. He initiated the event with an insulting remark and then immediately issued a Mod Warning when **UberArchetype** responded in kind. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibris-insult-in-general-questions/757139/4 "2016-06-11T20:18:50Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > \*\*UberArchetype’\*\*s time wasn’t valuable because Colibri was insinuating he didn’t know what he was talking about. > > That is clearly an insult to the poster and not any specific posts. > > This is minor, but **Colibri** was in the wrong. He initiated the event with an insulting remark and then immediately issued a Mod Warning when **UberArchetype** responded in kind. What warning? > [@Is Hillary Clinton being criminally investigated?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillary-clinton-being-criminally-investigated/756984/28): > > **Moderator Note** > > Political jabs are not permitted in General Questions. No warning issued, but don’t do this again. > > Colibri > General Questions Moderator > [@Is Hillary Clinton being criminally investigated?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillary-clinton-being-criminally-investigated/756984/30): > > **Moderator Instructions** > > If you wish to discuss moderation, start a thread in ATMB. Further discussion here may be subject to a warning. > > Colibri > General Questions Moderator ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibris-insult-in-general-questions/757139/5 "2016-06-11T20:19:01Z")
You conveniently refrained from quoting the exchanges that had taken place before that. Why did you not quote these as well? > [@Is Hillary Clinton being criminally investigated?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillary-clinton-being-criminally-investigated/756984/16): > > That was determined a long time ago when classified information turned up on her server. Those 2 things are mutually “inclusive:” Classified Breach + Unclassified Server = crime. It is simply, IAW 18 U.S. Code § 798, ILLEGAL for this to happen in any way, shape or form: > > [The Law](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/798) > > Exactly who did what, when and how needs to be “determined” before indictments can be made. > [@Is Hillary Clinton being criminally investigated?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillary-clinton-being-criminally-investigated/756984/17): > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by UberArchetype > > That was determined a long time ago when classified information turned up on her server. Those 2 things are mutually “inclusive:” Classified Breach + Unclassified Server = crime. It is simply, IAW 18 U.S. Code § 798, ILLEGAL for this to happen in any way, shape or form: > > > > The Law > > > > Exactly who did what, when and how needs to be “determined” before indictments can be made. > > From your link: > > > [@](#): > > > > Quote: > > Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information— > > Her server isn’t an unauthorized person. So it sounds like there’s no proof of the law being broken unless it can be shown that the information on her server was accessible by unauthorized people? > [@Is Hillary Clinton being criminally investigated?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillary-clinton-being-criminally-investigated/756984/18): > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by scr4 > > …unless it can be shown that the information on her server was accessible by unauthorized people? > > By definition, this IS the case. > [@Is Hillary Clinton being criminally investigated?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillary-clinton-being-criminally-investigated/756984/19): > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by **UberArchetype** > > That was determined a long time ago when classified information turned up on her server. Those 2 things are mutually “inclusive:” Classified Breach + Unclassified Server = crime. It is simply, IAW 18 U.S. Code § 798, ILLEGAL for this to happen in any way, shape or form: > > That’s not correct, per the law you quote. It’s not all classified information that’s illegal, it’s only certain categories of classified information. > [@Is Hillary Clinton being criminally investigated?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillary-clinton-being-criminally-investigated/756984/20): > > Whatever. [QUOTE=scr4] > [@](#): > > Originally Posted by UberArchetype > By definition, this IS the case. You mean definition of “unclassified server”? What exactly is the definition? [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=UberArchetype] Originally Posted by scr4 > [@](#): > > You mean definition of “unclassified server”? What exactly is the definition? Anyone’s education on the rules and laws pertaining to U.S. Government classified material at the expense of my time, is over. [/QUOTE] **UberaArchetype** made some erroneous statements. When these were pointed out to him, he basically stated that he didn’t care if they were correct or not. If someone doesn’t care whether the information they post is correct, then they are not contributing value to GQ. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibris-insult-in-general-questions/757139/6 "2016-06-11T20:20:50Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > \*\*UberArchetype’\*\*s time wasn’t valuable because Colibri was insinuating he didn’t know what he was talking about. > > That is clearly an insult to the poster and not any specific posts. > > This is minor, but **Colibri** was in the wrong. He initiated the event with an insulting remark and then immediately issued a Mod Warning when **UberArchetype** responded in kind. And you’re completely wrong. Colibri was not insulting UberArchetype, and if saying another poster has no idea what they are talking about is an ‘insult’ - we might as well shut down the board now. Secondly, no warning was issued - it was a mod note. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibris-insult-in-general-questions/757139/7 "2016-06-11T20:22:18Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > \*\*UberArchetype’\*\*s time wasn’t valuable because Colibri was insinuating he didn’t know what he was talking about. **UberArchetype** indicated that he didn’t care whether the information he posted was correct of not. That is what I was referring to. > [@](#): > > That is clearly an insult to the poster and not any specific posts. I did not insult the poster. I said that his contributions in that thread were not of value. > [@](#): > > This is minor, but **Colibri** was in the wrong. He initiated the event with an insulting remark and then immediately issued a Mod Warning when **UberArchetype** responded in kind. I didn’t initiate the event; I didn’t insult anyone; and I didn’t issue any warning. You’ve hit the Trifecta of wrongness.😉 ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibris-insult-in-general-questions/757139/8 "2016-06-11T20:28:20Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > You conveniently refrained from quoting the exchanges that had taken place before that. Why did you not quote these as weill? Because they were immaterial. You’re seeking to use those quotes to justify your insult. Or is it that insults are allowed in GQ/GD if one can present evidence that the insult may be justifiable? \ > [@Colibri](#): > > **UberaArchetype** made some erroneous statements. When these were pointed out to him, he basically stated that he didn’t care if they were correct or not. If someone doesn’t care whether the information they post is correct, then they are not contributing value to GQ. Oh , so _then_ it’s okay to insult them in GQ? Hmmm I was unaware of that rule. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibris-insult-in-general-questions/757139/9 "2016-06-11T20:33:01Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > What warning? Indeed, Mod Note was what I meant. This being the major reason I described the affair as minor. Thank you and others for the correction. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibris-insult-in-general-questions/757139/10 "2016-06-11T20:33:30Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > I did not insult the poster. I said that his contributions in that thread were not of value. You are incorrect as far as what YOU said. You said his time was not of value. Teally. Look it up. > [@Colibri](#): > > I didn’t initiate the event; I didn’t insult anyone; and I didn’t issue any warning. No, no warning. I never made that claim. But an insult? Absolutely. How in the world is telling someone that their time is of no value not an insult? Please, this is the kind of shit I was talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibris-insult-in-general-questions/757139/11 "2016-06-11T20:39:25Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > **UberArchetype** indicated that he didn’t care whether the information he posted was correct of not. That is what I was referring to. > > I did not insult the poster. I said that his contributions in that thread were not of value. > > I didn’t initiate the event; I didn’t insult anyone; and I didn’t issue any warning. You’ve hit the Trifecta of wrongness.😉 What I saw was a back-and-forth related to the topic at hand, followed by a pivot to personal critique initiated by yourself. The aesthetics of a Moderator egging on a poster by belittling his or her knowledge, followed up with a Mod Note when said poster returns the favor, are poor. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibris-insult-in-general-questions/757139/12 "2016-06-11T20:39:57Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > You are incorrect as far as what YOU said. You said his time was not of value. Teally. Look it up. I said his efforts “for our education” were of no value, since he said he didn’t care whether his statements were correct or not. Really. You could look it up. I did not insult anyone personally. I made a comment on the value of their contributions to the thread. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibris-insult-in-general-questions/757139/13 "2016-06-11T20:49:53Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > I said his efforts “for our education” were of no value, since he said he didn’t care whether his statements were correct or not. Really. You could look it up. > > I did not insult anyone personally. I made a comment on the value of their contributions to the thread. I did look it up. Perhaps you should. But you know let’s save some time and aggravation in the future: Hey, **UberArchetype** , do not waste your time posting on these boards. The time you spend doing so is of zero value. Good idea? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibris-insult-in-general-questions/757139/14 "2016-06-11T20:56:37Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > I did look it up. Perhaps you should. But you know let’s save some time and aggravation in the future: > > Hey, **UberArchetype** , do not waste your time posting on these boards. The time you spend doing so is of zero value. > > Good idea? Yes. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibris-insult-in-general-questions/757139/15 "2016-06-11T20:57:06Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > I did look it up. Perhaps you should. But you know let’s save some time and aggravation in the future: > > Hey, **UberArchetype** , do not waste your time posting on these boards. The time you spend doing so is of zero value. > > Good idea? Warn this guy for junior mod’ing!! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibris-insult-in-general-questions/757139/16 "2016-06-12T00:52:16Z")
> [@](#): > > Anyone’s education on the rules and laws pertaining to U.S. Government classified material at the expense of my time, is over. I underlined the subject of **UberArchetype** ’s original statement. I think it might be clearer replacing it with “Anyone’s obtainment of an education on…” So when **Colibri** says > [@](#): > > It doesn’t appear we have lost anything of value. it should be clear he is speaking about the subject of the preceding sentence, i.e. the obtainment of education. That is a remark about the information **UberArchetype** is providing. Also, the political jab seems to me to be “ice queen Billary”. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibris-insult-in-general-questions/757139/17 "2016-06-13T21:44:08Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > I said his efforts “for our education” were of no value, since he said he didn’t care whether his statements were correct or not. Really. You could look it up. > > I did not insult anyone personally. I made a comment on the value of their contributions to the thread. Worded a little snarky, _perhaps-_ but I see no personal insult. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibris-insult-in-general-questions/757139/18 "2016-06-13T21:57:54Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > I did look it up. Perhaps you should. But you know let’s save some time and aggravation in the future: You would save time and aggravation by not making frivolous complaints. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibris-insult-in-general-questions/757139/19 "2016-06-14T15:41:31Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > You would save time and aggravation by not making frivolous complaints. nm ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibris-insult-in-general-questions/757139/20 "2016-06-14T18:18:40Z")
It depends on what the meaning of the word “is” is. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/colibris-insult-in-general-questions/757139.md?page=2)