# Collection of Muslim condemnations of terror attacks **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 16, 2015, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714 "2015-11-16T17:23:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/21 "2015-11-16T22:25:47Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Muslim groups like those cited in this thread, while expressing regret/outrage over the Paris attacks and/or the Charlie Hebdo murders, typically avoid specifically denouncing the organizations sponsoring terrorism. that is a falsehood, more of the smearing. but typical. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/22 "2015-11-16T22:31:37Z")
It was easy to find the American organization CAIR directly [blaiming and condemning](https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/world/cair-islamic-state-launching-war-on-muslims/2015/11/15/dc09eb82-8ba7-11e5-934c-a369c80822c2_video.html)DAESH, the dirty implication that the condemnations are avoiding the blaming of DAESH is a falsehood, of a deliberate fashion in some quarters. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/23 "2015-11-16T22:35:55Z")
And the [Président of the union of the mosques of the France](http://www.yabiladi.com/articles/details/40174/attentats-paris-mohamed-moussaoui-estime.html), stating directly the problem is the DAESH and they are the common enemy behind the murderous attacks in Paris. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/24 "2015-11-16T22:39:40Z")
And [the French muslims associations](http://www.rtl.fr/actu/societe-faits-divers/attentats-de-paris-les-federations-musulmanes-denoncent-une-barbarie-abjecte-7780513339) together also name DAESH. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/25 "2015-11-16T23:02:13Z")
[Al Quds,](http://www.alquds.uk/?p=481805)reporting does not hesitate to name DAESh and the IRaqi forces blame it by name: > [@](#): > > بغداد ـ «القدس العربي»: استنكرت مختلف القوى العراقية هجمات تنظيم «الدولة» على باريس متوقعة أن تكون لها نتائج إيجابية على الشأن العراقي من خلال زيادة المشاركة الفرنسية والدولية في جهود محاربة التنظيم. > وتحدثت «القدس العربي» إلى سياسيين ونواب عن توقعاتهم بتأثير هجمات باريس على الأوضاع في العراق بخصوص محاربة تنظيم «الدولة». > [@](#): > > Baghdad «Quds Al-Arabi»: Denounced the various Iraqi forces the attacks of the «State» on Paris is expected to have a positive impact on the Iraqi situation through an increase in the French and international involvement in the organized efforts to fight the «State». ---
**Author:** ![iNuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/87869e/32.png) [@iNuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iNuit)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/26 "2015-11-17T00:18:54Z")
Hezbollah has nothing to do with the terrorists plot that occurred in Paris. They are sometimes called an “extreme” Islamic and/or “paramilitary” Islamic group but the group technically does not refer to anyone or anything having to do with the actions of ISIL directly so to denounce them would be like denouncing all Southern Baptists for the idiotic lunatic ravings of one very small church that’s known for causing a big scene of controversy. Sure, some Baptist churches might also think that homosexuality is wrong BUT that does not mean they approve of protesting at a poor family’s funeral is okay. Get it? The situation we have here is even more complicated than religious extremes and variations, it’s also quite political so add in terms like Republican and Democrat to the mix and imagine those pro gun NRA tea bag people shooting at all Democrats while Jonesboro Baptist Church is throwing grenades and shooting back at the Tea Party which doesn’t even make sense, right? That’s what’s happening in Syria! Here this helps a little ~ > **[Watch: a 5-minute history of Syria’s war and the rise of ISIS](https://www.vox.com/2015/11/14/9735102/syria-isis-history-video)** > > A brief history of the conflict that gave the world ISIS. ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/27 "2015-11-17T01:33:43Z")
But the real question is-- did they denounce terrorism in Pig Latin while hopping up and down on one foot? Well, did they? ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/28 "2015-11-17T01:59:59Z")
Of course there is widespread condemnation of the attacks. And of course[CAIR is a public relations firm for Islamism fronting as a civil rights group](http://www.adl.org/israel-international/anti-israel-activity/c/the-council-on-american-islamic-relations.html#.VkqJUH6rRhE). > [@](#): > > The Federal Bureau of Investigation has distanced itself from CAIR over the years. In an April 2009 letter to the Subcommittee on Terrorism, Technology, and Homeland Security, the FBI explained that it suspended contact with CAIR because of evidence introduced during the Holy Land Foundation (HLF) trial, demonstrating that CAIR and its founders were part of a group set up by the Muslim Brotherhood to support Hamas. The trial ended with guilty verdicts on all charges against HLF and five of its officers, including a 65 year sentence for Ghassan Elashi, the founder of CAIR’s Dallas chapter . ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/29 "2015-11-17T02:16:46Z")
I don’t understand what anyone hopes to accomplish by either demanding voices of condemnation or by citing them. Let’s say, hypothetically, that 99% of Muslims were hardcore extremists and that only 1% were moderates. Let’s also say that 1 in 10,000 were leaders or scholars of some notability. If there are 1.5B Muslims, that still leaves 1,500 people willing to speak out against the atrocity. The fact that it’s possible to find hundreds of condemnations of a terrorist act therefore says absolutely nothing about the degree of extremism. It could be 0.01% or it could be 99%. To be clear, the opposite is also true. Finding hundreds of calls for violence tells you absolutely nothing about the overall fraction. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/30 "2015-11-17T02:48:00Z")
Condemnation means nothing. There are far too many who are extremists. In fact this religion itself is a piece of cr@p. Islamic terrorist attacks (far from a comprehensive list) > [@](#): > > 1980s > • August 29, 1981 – 1981 Vienna synagogue attack. 2 dead 30 injured. > • October 2, 1982 – 1982 Great Synagogue of Rome attack. 1 dead 37 injured. > > _Mod note: Overly Long Unattributed Quote Redacted_ > > • November 13, 2004 – 2004 Poso bus bombing An IED targeting a bus travelling to the majority Christian village of Silancak kills 6 and wounds 3. > • December 6, 2004 – Five militants attacked the American consulate in Jeddah, killing 9 and wounding about 10. Three attackers were killed by Saudi security forces, who wounded and arrested the other two.[38] ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/31 "2015-11-17T02:53:29Z")
Continued > [@](#): > > • January 13, 2005 – Karni border crossing attack. 6 killed 4 injured. > • February 14, 2005 – Assassination of Rafic Hariri The former Prime Minister of Lebanon, Rafic Hariri, was among 22 people killed when 1,000 kg of TNT exploded near his motorcade in Beirut. > > _Mod note: Overly Long Unattributed Quote Redacted_ > > • April 20, 2015 – A minivan of UN workers was bombed by Al-Shabaab in the Puntland region of Somalia. 9 dead 4 injured.[103] > • April 27, 2015 – At the Zvornik police station terrorist attack in the city of Zvornik, Republika Srpska, in Bosnia and Herzegovina, an armed member of a wahhabist movement opened fire on the police. In the shooting, a police officer was killed, two others were injured, and the attacker was killed by police.[104] ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/32 "2015-11-17T02:54:32Z")
More… > [@](#): > > • May 3, 2015 – Two car bombs were detonated ten minutes apart in Baghdad, Iraq. Nineteen were killed and an unknown number wounded. ISIS claimed responsibility for the attacks.[105] > • May 3, 2015 – Two gunmen attacked the Curtis Culwell Center during a ‘Draw Muhammad’ cartoon art exhibit in Garland, Texas . 2 dead (perpetrators) 1 injured.[106][107][108][109][110] > > _Mod note: Overly Long Unattributed Quote Redacted_ > > • November 12, 2015 - Twin suicide bombings kill 42 people in the capital city of Beirut. [150] > • November 13, 2015 A series of 7 attacks kill 153 people in the capital city of Paris. [151] ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/33 "2015-11-17T03:14:24Z")
Not sure what those wikipedia wall posts with no links shows here, I do not think that many here are not aware of that already. And that there are crappy ideas among many followers of that faith there; but it has to be noted that a lot of those terror attacks took place in Muslim nations too, and against other Muslims. Do you really think their condemnation to those acts means nothing? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/34 "2015-11-17T03:15:46Z")
That’s one hell of a long cut-and-paste you’ve got there. Where’s it from? ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/35 "2015-11-17T03:43:46Z")
It’s from wikipedia’s article on [List of Islamist terrorist attacks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks). Truthseeker2 and choie, please go easy on the overly long quotes. And never should you quote like that without adding a link or attribution. As a matter of fact, that goes for all of you. Be good, now. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/36 "2015-11-17T04:03:32Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Not sure what those wikipedia wall posts with no links shows here, I do not think that many here are not aware of that already. And that there are crappy ideas among many followers of that faith there; but it has to be noted that a lot of those terror attacks took place in Muslim nations too, \*\*and against other Muslims. > \*\* > Do you really think their condemnation to those acts means nothing? yes, there are attacks on other sects (like on Shias by Sunnis), or against Muslims who they will accuse of not being perfect Muslims. condemnation means nothing unless they drastically reduce the influence of Islam on themselves. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/37 "2015-11-17T04:14:14Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > yes, there are attacks on other sects (like on Shias by Sunnis), or against Muslims who they will accuse of not being perfect Muslims. > > condemnation means nothing unless they drastically reduce the influence of Islam on themselves. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![nicky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f0a364/32.png) [@nicky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nicky)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/38 "2015-11-17T08:21:35Z")
Proposition: Muslims dont condemn DAESH Evidence: Even muslims that defend Hamas, condemn DAESH Conclusion: er… ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/39 "2015-11-17T08:54:07Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > condemnation means nothing unless they drastically reduce the influence of Islam on themselves. This person of course advances this idea in the other thread > [@Scores killed in explosions and shootout in Paris. Hostages being held](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scores-killed-in-explosions-and-shootout-in-paris-hostages-being-held/737499/313): > > Entail in USA you mean? Once you have 80-90% population-base supporting the ban, it will be smooth. > > Worldwide, it will be few USA flags burned, some leaders of some nations showing fake outrage and that’s it. > > In the longer run, it will be very very positive IMO. and in the pit thread, he was very interesting in excusing all kinds of suppression of other religions in India, with direct and indirect excuses like they were originally hindu and [the rising incidents of the attacks on christians](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=18361235&highlight=christian#post18361235)were “mostly made up.” Yes really. it is anyway an interesting lesson of how the various expressions of the bigotry end up mirroring each other in the logic and the expression, whether if they come from a muslim, a christian or some other. > [@GIGObuster](#): > > :rolleyes: Yes. > [@nicky](#): > > Proposition: Muslims dont condemn DAESH > > Evidence: Even muslims that defend Hamas, condemn DAESH > > Conclusion: er… for the bigotted crowd they conclude that it is all pretend and anyway muslims = evil so anyway bad (or they hate the Sin and ‘love’ the sinner…- I borrow from **Miller** ). So we muslims have not condemend DAESH, we did not do it in whatever changing form (not on one foot, hopping, not in the pig latin, etc). Or anyway the person knows we did not use the right name or in the Arabic it was hidden somehow, they know this even though tthey do not speak the Arabic. It is the conclusion foregone. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/40 "2015-11-17T09:06:46Z")
Bidaya, [link in Spanish](https://musulmanasbidaya.wordpress.com/). Association of Muslim Women in Euskadi (Spanish Basque Country). UCIPV (Unión de Comunidades Islámicas del País Vasco), in their facebook page and again [in Spanish](https://www.facebook.com/assalam.meskita). Union of Muslim Communities in Euskadi. News about the Muslims residing in Badajoz joining the [minute of silence](http://ucide.org/es/content/la-comunidad-isl%C3%A1mica-de-badajoz-se-suma-al-minuto-de-silencio) outside City Hall as a group and about the president of the Spanish Muslims Association [UCIDE](http://ucide.org/es/content/no-se-puede-admitir-la-asociaci%C3%B3n-del-islam-con-el-radicalismo) taking part in a military course back in September and condemning this kind of behavior in general (evidently he couldn’t condemn a specific attack which was yet in the future). I could find more, but I’m feeling a bit too lazy to go searching for asociación musulmanes and every Spanish-speaking demarcation I can think of. Those three were among the first seven links for asociación musulmanes españa. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714.md?page=3)