# Collection of Muslim condemnations of terror attacks **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 16, 2015, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714 "2015-11-16T17:23:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/41 "2015-11-17T11:41:53Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > This person of course advances this idea in the other thread > and in the pit thread, he was very interesting in excusing all kinds of suppression of other religions in India, with direct and indirect excuses like they were originally hindu and [the rising incidents of the attacks on christians](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=18361235&highlight=christian#post18361235)were “mostly made up.” > > Yes really. > > it is anyway an interesting lesson of how the various expressions of the bigotry end up mirroring each other in the logic and the expression, whether if they come from a muslim, a christian or some other. > Yes. > > for the bigotted crowd they conclude that it is all pretend and anyway muslims = evil so anyway bad (or they hate the Sin and ‘love’ the sinner…- I borrow from **Miller** ). > > So we muslims have not condemend DAESH, we did not do it in whatever changing form (not on one foot, hopping, not in the pig latin, etc). Or anyway the person knows we did not use the right name or in the Arabic it was hidden somehow, they know this even though tthey do not speak the Arabic. It is the conclusion foregone. Bro I am a nobody. So don’t focus your energy on me. BTW for the nth time, I am not religious (so not a Hindu). If you want to criticize India or Hinduism, I will encourage you to do so and I will want to participate too (on real issues). But to compare Islam with Hinduism or with any other religion is totally ridiculous. Islam = Evil, worldwide. As Muslims, you should accept this fact imho. And for the nth time, I am not against Muslims. Muslims are humans too and deserve as much love and respect as any other people. Its the Islam that is a cancer for the world. We have to weaken Islam. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/42 "2015-11-17T12:13:30Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > And for the nth time, I am not against Muslims. Muslims are humans too and deserve as much love and respect as any other people. Its the Islam that is a cancer for the world. We have to weaken Islam. That makes as much sense as saying “I don’t hate them Jews-it’s their _religion_ I hate!” How the hell can you possibly love and respect them as Muslims, and yet want to destroy the religion that defines them? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/43 "2015-11-17T12:36:02Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > yes, there are attacks on other sects (like on Shias by Sunnis), or against Muslims who they will accuse of not being perfect Muslims. > > condemnation means nothing unless they drastically reduce the influence of Islam on themselves. It’s like you’ve got those goalposts mounted on the back of a large semi, careening randomly all over the field(and occasionally into the stands). ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/44 "2015-11-17T12:42:16Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > That makes as much sense as saying “I don’t hate them Jews-it’s their _religion_ I hate!” \*\* How the hell can you possibly love and respect them as Muslims, and yet want to destroy the religion that defines them?\*\* Most non-Muslims of this world are already doing it (as it should be) - treating Muslims as equals as friends, colleagues etc, hating Islam and hoping that effect of Islam on overall population reduces drastically. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/45 "2015-11-17T12:47:39Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Most non-Muslims of this world are already doing it (as it should be) - treating Muslims as equals as friends, colleagues etc, hating Islam and hoping that effect of Islam on overall population reduces drastically. So it’s like loving homosexuals, but hating their “lifestyle”? ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/46 "2015-11-17T12:55:13Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > So it’s like loving homosexuals, but hating their “lifestyle”? Does not make sense. Following two things are fact - 1. Its not Muslims’ mistake that they are born in Islam. So they deserve as much love and respect as any other people. 2. Islam is cancer for the world. You hope its effects on Muslims weakens as a whole. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/47 "2015-11-17T12:58:15Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Most non-Muslims of this world are already doing it (as it should be) - treating Muslims as equals as friends, colleagues etc, hating Islam and hoping that effect of Islam on overall population reduces drastically. No, most non-Muslism of this world are treating Muslims as equals, as friends, colleagues, etc, hating _extremism_ and hoping that the effect of _extremism_ on the overall population reduces drastically. “Islam” is not defined only by its lunatic fringe. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/48 "2015-11-17T13:01:37Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Does not make sense. Following two things are fact - > > 1. Its not Muslims’ mistake that they are born in Islam. So they deserve as much love and respect as any other people. > > 2. Islam is cancer for the world. You hope its effects on Muslims weakens as a whole. My Beloved went through cancer-please try to find another ill-fitting euphemism. And some of us, through experience, recognize the weakness of your “love the sinner, hate the sin” argument. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/49 "2015-11-17T13:10:59Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > No, most non-Muslism of this world are treating Muslims as equals, as friends, colleagues, etc, hating _extremism_ and hoping that the effect of _extremism_ on the overall population reduces drastically. That’s sugarcoating imo. Extremism will be reduced as a whole when you become less Islamic as a society. > [@](#): > > “Islam” is not defined only by its lunatic fringe. Whether a Muslim is ‘lunatic fringe’ is not a binary thing, like a yes or no answer. There are varying degrees of lunacy and primitiveness. > [@Czarcasm](#): > > My Beloved went through cancer-please try to find another ill-fitting euphemism. > And some of us, through experience, recognize the weakness of your “love the sinner, hate the sin” argument. I am sorry about this **Czarcasm**. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/50 "2015-11-17T13:14:12Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > That’s sugarcoating imo. Extremism will be reduced as a whole when you become less Islamic as a society. > > Whether a Muslim is ‘lunatic fringe’ is not a binary thing, like a yes or no answer. There are varying degrees of lunacy and primitiveness. And after you get rid of Islam, what religion, sect or people are next on your list? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/51 "2015-11-17T13:14:26Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > That’s sugarcoating imo. Extremism will be reduced as a whole when you become less Islamic as a society. That’s clearly nonsense, because religious extremism isn’t remotely limited to Islam. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/52 "2015-11-17T13:16:44Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Does not make sense. Following two things are fact - For your edification, here’s a nifty [link](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fact?s=t) that might provide you with some illumination. > [@](#): > > 1. Its not Muslims’ mistake that they are born in Islam. So they deserve as much love and respect as any other people. Well, nobody’s actually born into a religion. One has to be educated into it, usually beginning with some sort of initiation ceremony. Of course, the person or persons raising someone will usually have a lot to do with what religion that someone adopts. > [@](#): > > 1. Islam is cancer for the world. You hope its effects on Muslims weakens as a whole. I’d think that the incredible ignorance and bigotry you’re displaying with this inane comment is the actual cancer, not Islam. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/53 "2015-11-17T13:16:48Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > That’s sugarcoating imo. Extremism will be reduced as a whole when you become less Islamic as a society. Funny (not), my own homeland has become less extremist at the same time as the amount of Muslim people in it has risen. Any causality there has been on the direction “less extremist, less xenophobic” ----\> “more people from all origins, colors and religions moving in”, but hey, feel free to keep conflating apples and knives. ---
**Author:** ![crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@crucible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crucible)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/54 "2015-11-17T13:37:18Z")
To a large degree, those people who don’t hear the outpouring of condemnation by Islam spokespeople of the monstrous evil that is Daesh are those people who don’t WANT to hear those condemnations because it doesn’t fit their idea of what is happening. Their minds were made up and closed around the time they heard their Daddy cursing people of different religions and races. They know, already, all they ever will need to know and have no desire to be shown the truth. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/55 "2015-11-17T13:39:31Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > **Funny (not), my own homeland has become less extremist at the same time as the amount of Muslim people in it has risen.** > > Any causality there has been on the direction “less extremist, less xenophobic” ----\> “more people from all origins, colors and religions moving in”, but hey, feel free to keep conflating apples and knives. You mean USA? Muslim population percentage is still less in USA. I think that’s the primary reason. Its manageable if the population percentage is less. If the population percentage rises, the nation needs to be very careful if they are religious. A religious Buddhist population is not expected to cause damage for ex. , but you would not want to live in a place where there’s large religious Islamic population. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/56 "2015-11-17T13:47:43Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > You mean USA? Muslim population percentage is still less in USA. I think that’s the primary reason. ISTR **Nava** is in Spain. > [@](#): > > Its manageable if the population percentage is less. If the population percentage rises, the nation needs to be very careful if they are religious. A religious Buddhist population is not expected to cause damage for ex. , but you would not want to live in a place where there’s large religious Islamic population. Wrong on all counts. You might want to ask the Muslims in Myanmar whether “a religious Buddhist population” is likely to commit extremist violence. And Muslim-majority countries such as Turkey and Indonesia are not extremist by and large (although extremist minorities exist everywhere), so the problem clearly isn’t Islam per se. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/57 "2015-11-17T13:52:09Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > ISTR **Nava** is in Spain. > Wrong on all counts. You might want to ask the Muslims in Myanmar whether “a religious Buddhist population” is likely to commit extremist violence. And Muslim-majority countries such as Turkey and Indonesia are not extremist by and large (although extremist minorities exist everywhere), so the problem clearly isn’t Islam per se. Turkey is much less extremist. Good, wish them the best. Turkey is much less religious than say a Pakistan or an Afghanistan. Make Pak/Afghanistan less religious, they will be less extremist. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/58 "2015-11-17T13:57:00Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > A religious Buddhist population is not expected to cause damage for ex. […] Unless they happen to be [certain groups of Buddhist monks and lay Buddhist mobs in Burma or Sri Lanka](http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-22356306), perhaps. > [@](#): > > Why Are Buddhist Monks Attacking Muslims? > > This is happening in two countries separated by well over 1,000 miles of Indian Ocean - Burma and Sri Lanka. It is puzzling because neither country is facing an Islamist militant threat. Muslims in both places are a generally peaceable and small minority. […] > > […] the Burmese situation is far more serious. Here the antagonism is spearheaded by the 969 group, led by a monk, Ashin Wirathu, who was jailed in 2003 for inciting religious hatred. Released in 2012, he has referred to himself bizarrely as “the Burmese Bin Laden”. > > March [2013] saw an outbreak of mob violence directed against Muslims in the town of Meiktila, in central Burma, which left at least 40 dead. […] > > On Tuesday [in May 2013], Buddhist mobs attacked mosques and burned more than 70 homes in Oakkan, north of Rangoon, after a Muslim girl on a bicycle collided with a monk. One person died and nine were injured. [Hardline Buddhists attack Muslim towns in Sri Lanka](http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2014/06/16/hardline_buddhists_attack_muslim_towns_in_sri_lanka.html) > [@](#): > > Hardline Buddhists hurled Molotov cocktails and looted homes and businesses in several Muslim towns in Sri Lanka, killing three Muslims and seriously wounding more than 50 people in the overnight attacks, authorities said Monday [16 June 2014]. > > The attack was led by a mob from Bodu Bala Sena [BBS] — or Buddhist Power Force — which rails against the country’s Muslim minority. > > The group has been gaining followers and is believed to enjoy state support. Gotabhaya Rajapaksa, Sri Lanka’s powerful defence secretary and the president’s brother, once made a public appearance supporting the group’s cause. [The darker side of Buddhism](http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-32929855) > [@](#): > > […] And it was from the monks’ main party that Gnanasara Thero later broke away, in time forming the BBS. It is now the most prominent of several organisations sharing a similar ideology. […] > > Moderate Buddhists have also been targeted by hard-line ones. > > Last year Rev Wathareka Vijitha Thero was abducted, rendered unconscious, tied up and forcibly circumcised - he says this was meant as a gesture of ridicule because he had worked for closer cooperation between Buddhists and Muslims. > > He believes Buddhist monks - he doesn’t know who or whether they were aligned with any particular group - were responsible. > > In a separate case, a few weeks earlier, Vijitha Thero had held a news conference to highlight the grievances of the Muslim community - the gathering was broken up by the BBS. Gnanasara had hurled insults and threatened him: “If you are involved in this type of stupid treachery again, you will be taken and put in the Mahaweli River,” he said. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/59 "2015-11-17T15:09:29Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Turkey is much less extremist. Good, wish them the best. > > Turkey is much less religious than say a Pakistan or an Afghanistan. Make Pak/Afghanistan less religious, they will be less extremist. Turkey is also wealthier and more stable than Pakistan or Afghanistan. Perhaps their greater secularism is a symptom, not a cause. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/collection-of-muslim-condemnations-of-terror-attacks/737714/60 "2015-11-17T16:09:40Z")
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