# College basketball fans, Izzo rumor

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**Created:** [March 30, 2009, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-basketball-fans-izzo-rumor/491253 "2009-03-30T03:36:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![diku](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4af34b/32.png) [@diku](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/diku)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-basketball-fans-izzo-rumor/491253/21 "2009-03-30T20:24:35Z")

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Billy G was in the hot seat for not caring about Kentucky tradition, and driving his player nuts. It’s not a secret that had he come back, 4-5 players were transferring. He threatened to kick Jodie Meeks off the team before the Notre Dame game because he was shooting too much. Even during his 54 point game, he told Meeks he was too selfish.

He basically drove his players nuts, drove his boss nuts, and drove everyone in Lexington nuts. And I actually liked the guy.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-basketball-fans-izzo-rumor/491253/22 "2009-03-30T20:51:46Z")

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> [@diku](#):
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> Billy G was in the hot seat for not caring about Kentucky tradition, and driving his player nuts. It’s not a secret that had he come back, 4-5 players were transferring. He threatened to kick Jodie Meeks off the team before the Notre Dame game because he was shooting too much. Even during his 54 point game, he told Meeks he was too selfish.
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> He basically drove his players nuts, drove his boss nuts, and drove everyone in Lexington nuts. And I actually liked the guy.

Well, I’ve always believed players will perform at a high level for EITHER a nice guy “players’ coach” or for a mean S.O.B.

What matters is, whether he’s a sweetheart or a prick, do the players believe he knows what he’s doing? Do they believe he gives them an edge? Do they believe that, if they buy into what this guy is telling them, they’ll win?

If they DO believe that, they’ll do ANYTHING for him, even if he curses them and treats them like dirt. If they DON’T believe that, they’ll tune out early, and won’t listen to anything he says. And once that happens, it’s pretty much impossible EVER to win them back.

Bill Belichick and Bobby Knight have NEVER been nice guys, by any stretch of the imagination. But their players have gladly endured cursing and mockery and humiliation, because they had good reason to believe a championship rign was waiting at the end of a long, hard road. What was it Steve Shutt once said of Scotty Bowman- “364 days a year I hated him, but the 365th day, I drank champagne out of the Stanley Cup.”

Billy Gillispie NEVER gave his Wildcats reason to believe that there would be a payoff.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-basketball-fans-izzo-rumor/491253/23 "2009-03-30T21:14:02Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> Thank you, that is exactly what I meant.

Apologies. I thought you were singling out UK by implying that it was a hillbilly university or something.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-basketball-fans-izzo-rumor/491253/24 "2009-03-30T23:46:09Z")

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I read that groups are trying find a way to pay Calipari 7 mill a year. That would mean the first 25 bucks for every single person that went to a basketball game would go to him. Too damn much.

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-basketball-fans-izzo-rumor/491253/25 "2009-03-31T00:42:15Z")

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> [@spoke-](#):
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> I hear through the grape vine that Izzo let it be known _last_ year he could be lured away from Michigan State. Of course, that could just mean he wants to use another suitor to leverage Michigan State into giving him more money. Who knows? His name has also been mentioned in connection with the Georgia job, though [Capel and Anderson get mentioned more often](http://blogs.ajc.com/uga-sports-blog/2009/03/30/uga-now-can-talk-to-anderson-capel/). (Probably all three are wishful thinking for Georgia fans.)

I spend a fair amount of my time as an administrator for a UGA sports page, and most of the mention Izzo’s name has received has been closely followed by hysterical laughter. I don’t think any serious Dawg fan really believes that’s even a remote possibility.

It looks like we’re going guns blazing for Anderson, but I’m much less optimistic than everyone else at this point.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2009, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-basketball-fans-izzo-rumor/491253/26 "2009-04-01T12:14:13Z")

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Well, MSU fans, breathe your sigh of relief. Calipari is the new Kentucky coach. Presser at 9:30am EST for the introduction.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-basketball-fans-izzo-rumor/491253/27 "2009-04-02T22:25:21Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> Well, MSU fans, breathe your sigh of relief. Calipari is the new Kentucky coach. Presser at 9:30am EST for the introduction.

All may not be well in Lexington, ESPN is reporting that three players verbally commited to Kentucky, have withdrawn their commitment following the hire of Calipari.

GJ Vilarino, KC Ross Miller, and Konner Tucker to re-open recruitment.

Sorry I cannot find a link to the story. I saw it on the ESPN2 scroll.

However, there might be some good news. Apparently Calipari recruited a legendary class to memphis, some of those players might follow him to Lexington.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-basketball-fans-izzo-rumor/491253/28 "2009-04-02T22:40:15Z")

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Those guys are no big deal, though, and Ross-Miller is only a junior anyway. Meanwhile Calipari stands a good chance of bringing with him two top-5 recruits this year, and maybe another top 10.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-basketball-fans-izzo-rumor/491253/29 "2009-04-03T00:03:55Z")

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As long as one or both of the Meeks/Patterson combo come back AND we get a couple blue chippers to follow Calipari from Memphis to UK, we’ll make the tourney next year. Beyond that, the sky is the limit.

I wonder if that eighth-grader Gillispie got to sign an intent letter is still coming…

😉

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-basketball-fans-izzo-rumor/491253/30 "2009-04-03T00:56:11Z")

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What I wonder is whether guys like Darius Miller and Liggins are going to suddenly start looking like they can play basketball next year.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/college-basketball-fans-izzo-rumor/491253/31 "2009-04-03T18:39:13Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#):
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> What I wonder is whether guys like Darius Miller and Liggins are going to suddenly start looking like they can play basketball next year.

I wonder that too. Liggins was a turnover _machine_ last season. I cringed every time he possessed the ball.

At least Miller had some tenacious D going for him.

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